--- Log opened Tue Nov 06 00:00:54 2007
00:03 < cwire> awesome, i was using no-ip to direct to a music streaming server i had at home for the longest time
00:04 < cwire>  now i'm playing with WOS since it's much easier to setup and get running than apache mysql and php by themselves so i wanted the domain to go to both web and music
00:04 < cwire> i considered using a reverse proxy but i was lazy and a few redirects and i'm good to go
00:06 <@ShadowHntr> well
00:06 <@ShadowHntr> time for me to head to bed
00:06 <@ShadowHntr> got work in the morning
00:06 <@ShadowHntr> cheers
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00:48 <@ware> ahhhh drunk
00:49 <@ware> this was a jay ware revelation, actually
00:49 <@ware> this was a jay ware revelation, actually
00:49 <@ware> this was a jay ware revelation, actually
00:51 <@ware> you god damn cunts
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00:57 <@ware> who else
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00:58 <@ware> HAHAHA I LAUGH AT YOUR SOBERESS
00:58 <@ware> BITCH
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00:58 <@ware> k im done. g'night
00:58 <@ware> ban me tomorerow
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01:02 -ChanServ:#se2600- someninjamaster!n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net ACCESS [#se2600] DEL ware
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01:05 <@someninjamaster> welcome back dc0de
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01:22 <@NotLarry> damn, trying to catch up on my network TV on the web sucks
01:22 <@NotLarry> I am nearly done with last weeks show and have to watch the cisco add 4 times to get to what I want to watch
01:22 <@NotLarry> 5 times
01:23 <@NotLarry> 6 times
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01:47 <@someninjamaster> fucking power outages
02:09 <@NotLarry> someninjamaster: good for you, is she hot?
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03:24 <@NotLarry> ok, anyone here used awk before?
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03:35 < Jagobah> delaware?
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05:47 <@Shadow_Phone> you fucking jackass
05:47 <@Shadow_Phone> grow up you little cuntweed
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05:47 <@GodFix> ??? did I miss something?
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05:48 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, ware getting drunk and being an as
05:48 <@Shadow_Phone> *ass
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05:49 <@GodFix> How is that different from a sober ware?
05:50 <@Shadow_Phone> well sober ware knows better than to kick ban people as much
05:50 <@GodFix> ah
05:51 -!- Shadow_Phone changed the topic of #se2600 to: PN0x0b Presentations Now On Google Video - http://phreaknic.info/pn0x0b/presentations.html for links | Do not unban ware till Noon - Drunk Kick/Bans Last Night
05:52 <@Shadow_Phone> that should do it
05:52 <@Shadow_Phone> time to play some more LOK
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06:52 <@ladymerlin> whee
06:53 <@GodFix> whee
07:20 <@ladymerlin> someone give me the link for the reorders of the phreaknic shirts
07:27 <@Corydon76-dig> https://128bit.clickandpledge.com/default.aspx?ID=13754&cid=US&a=
07:28 <@ladymerlin> thank you
07:29 <@GodFix> anyone know how to fix this?
07:29 <@GodFix> qmail-spawn unable to create pipe. (#4.3.0) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.
07:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Ugh, qmail
07:30 <@Corydon76-dig> djb should follow the RFCs
07:31 <@GodFix> and:
07:31 <@GodFix> Sorry, I wasn't able to establish an SMTP connection. (#4.4.1)
07:31 <@GodFix> I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.
07:31 <@Corydon76-dig> GodFix: people blacklist qmail servers because they're known to be noncompliant
07:32 <@GodFix> but here's the fun
07:32 <@GodFix> these aren't from my server
07:32 <@GodFix> these are the NDR others are getting when trying to e-mail us
07:32 <@Corydon76-dig> What's the domain?
07:32 <@GodFix> for some odd reason, unix and linux based boxes aren't getting through, but exchange boxes are
07:33 <@GodFix> possibly lotus notes, but i don't know about that yet
07:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Then port 25 isn't open
07:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Run an nmap against port 25 from your home machine against your MX records
07:33 <@GodFix> Interesting ports on :
07:33 <@GodFix> Not shown: 1692 filtered ports
07:34 <@GodFix> PORT    STATE  SERVICE
07:34 <@GodFix> 25/tcp  open   smtp
07:34 <@GodFix> 53/tcp  closed domain
07:34 <@GodFix> 80/tcp  closed http
07:34 <@GodFix> 110/tcp open   pop3
07:34 <@GodFix> 443/tcp open   https
07:34 <@Corydon76-dig> What's the IP?
07:34 <@GodFix> 69.21.239.232
07:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Give me an email address on the server
07:36 <@GodFix> rc.martinez@quantanashville.com
07:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, nothing is wrong with your server
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07:39 <@GodFix> and nothing with the firewall then, correct?
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07:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Just tried from a different host that doesn't have port 25 open.  Fine.
07:42 <@Corydon76-dig> although it did recognize my SPF records
07:42 <@Corydon76-dig> which is excellent, for Exchange
07:43 <@GodFix> so from your perspective, nottadamnthing we can do?
07:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Nothing that I can see
07:44 <@GodFix> frickin microsoft
07:44 <@Corydon76-dig> You should have just received 2 test messages
07:44 <@GodFix> it's jacked up
07:44 <@Corydon76-dig> granted, I typed those messages manually into the SMTP session
07:44 <@GodFix> I got both of those
07:45 <@GodFix> if SkyDog tries to e-mail me, or I try to send something from home, it bounces back. Damned Hotmail and anything Excahnge based come through without a hitch
07:45 <@brimstone> Corydon76-dig sendmail technique real good
07:50 <@Corydon76-dig> GodFix: just sent a third message from my mail client
07:51 <@GodFix> got it
07:51 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: well, it's the first thing to try...
07:51 <@Corydon76-dig> GodFix: I'm sending from sendmail through Comcast's servers
07:52 <@Corydon76-dig> not an exhaustive test, but I'm unable to make it fail
07:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Maybe mail is being bandwidth limited by some firewall?
07:52 <@Corydon76-dig> I haven't sent tomes
07:54 <@GodFix> the current connection it's coming in on is a 768kbs
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07:56 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:56 < SkyDog_> Morning.
07:58  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 
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07:59 <@dc0de_> mr0nin Dolemite & se2600
08:03 <@SkyDog_> Yo.
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08:07 <@brimstone> bye ladymerlin
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08:09 <@ladymerlin> whee
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08:43 <@Evilpig> my customers come up with teh strangest ideas
08:43 <@Evilpig> [08:31] Melinda Miller: Could you please check our Groupwise desktop version, please?  It is loading extremely slowly this morning and I am getting lots of phone calls about it.
08:44 <@Evilpig> what would the version have to do with anything related to speed?
08:44 <@brimstone> respond: "Yes, we have a Groupwise version"
08:44 -!- dc0de_ is now known as dc0de
08:45 <@Evilpig> [08:43] Wilpig: the version?  what does that have to do with anything?
08:45 <@Evilpig> [08:45] Melinda Miller: version 7.0.1
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08:45 <@Evilpig> yup.   I'm ready to go on a customer killing spree.
08:46 <@seeblind> Morning Everybody
08:46 <@ladymerlin> heya seeblind
08:47 <@seeblind> ladymerlin: Heard you had a new ride.
08:47 <@ladymerlin> heh
08:47 <@ladymerlin> yeah
08:47 <@ladymerlin> its big
08:47 <@ladymerlin> compaired to the mustang its like driving a tank
08:47 <@dc0de> ladymerlin, whatd ya get?
08:47 <@ladymerlin> explorer
08:47 <@dc0de> wow...
08:47 <@ladymerlin> is till have the mustang tho
08:47 <@dc0de> hybrid?
08:47 <@ladymerlin> no
08:48 <@dc0de> so it's parked.... :P
08:48 <@Corydon76-dig> You got a gas guzzler just as gas prices are heading through the roof?
08:48 <@ladymerlin> its no worse then the mustang
08:48 <@Corydon76-dig> That's scary
08:48 <@dc0de> indeed...
08:48 <@dc0de> at least a diesel?
08:48 <@ladymerlin> hell no
08:48 <@ladymerlin> i wouldnt drive anythign that loud
08:49 <@dc0de> *cough* mustang *cough* is louder.
08:49 <@ladymerlin> but thats a good loud :)
08:49 <@ladymerlin> not the annoying sounds liek shit loud
08:50 <@dc0de> good loud to me is is 500 ft/lbs of torque
08:50 <@dc0de> diesels are awesome sounding...
08:50 <@ladymerlin> heh did you see the new p-51a mustang?
08:50 <@dc0de> p51? that's the aircraft.
08:50 <@ladymerlin> 510 ft/lbs of torque
08:50 <@ladymerlin> no no
08:51 <@ladymerlin> the p51a tribute mustang....a car
08:51 <@Corydon76-dig> I dunno, diesel is the "I'm coming and there isn't anything you can do to stop me" loud...
08:51 <@Shadow404> heh, ware just banned me from #ware
08:51 <@Shadow404> i lawled
08:51 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig, yeah, you'd think that. but it's not the case.
08:52 <@Corydon76-dig> dc0de: okay, so a steam engine is stronger, but who has an automobile powered by steam?
08:52 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig, diesel is available.
08:52 <@dc0de> and it's more economical.
08:52 <@dc0de> and they last longer
08:53 <@Corydon76-dig> I wasn't against diesel
08:53 <@dc0de> and were designed originally to burn peanut oil
08:53 <@Corydon76-dig> They're the workhorses of the economy
08:53 <@dc0de> and the 4cyl turbo diesel is quiet, efficient, and can most times outstrip a gasoline car for performance
08:54 <@dc0de> but, people think that they are loud, smoky, and can't stop.
08:55 <@Corydon76-dig> They can stop... if they want to
08:55 <@dc0de> so they continue to regail the gasoline engine as "the" only way to go for a vehicle.
08:55 <@dc0de> have you driven a jetta tdi?
08:55 <@dc0de> or an f250 with a cummings turbo diesel?
08:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Not yet
08:56 <@Corydon76-dig> You're misinterpreting what I wrote
08:56 <@dc0de> they stop shorter than their gasoline "cousins" as 80% of the stopping force is done on the front brakes, and the engines in diesels weigh more, therefore, you get better braking performance from a diesel vehicle, than a gasoline one.
08:59 <@dc0de> but I digress
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09:06 <@Fed615> morning all
09:08 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Morning, Fed
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09:11 <@Corydon76-dig> vapor: how's the new job?
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09:12 <@poiupoiu> what up?
09:12 <@brimstone> chicken butt
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09:12 < vapor_pda> Woot!  IRC access at work!
09:13 < tzanger> vapor_pda: it's the only way
09:13 < tzanger> why would you irc on your own time? :-)
09:13 < vapor_pda> oh so true!
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09:14 <@poiupoiu> no fun if you can't get paid for doing it
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09:18 < haibish> got root?
09:20 <@Evilpig> why would anyone irc as root?
09:21 <@dc0de> mr0nin vapor_pda
09:21 <@dc0de> Evilpig, they're just showing off?
09:22 <@Evilpig> I was thinking too dumb to change to another account.  but that works
09:22 <@dc0de> either way... the result is the same
09:22 < haibish> why not? its not like you can do anything
09:22 <@Evilpig> anyone ever used this?  http://nsclient.ready2run.nl/download.htm
09:23 <@dc0de> no, not yet... sounds interesting
09:24 <@Evilpig> well from what I am reading.  even though it is old as dirt.  it should enable me to get counters out of exchange for use with cacti
09:24 <@Evilpig> http://forums.cacti.net/about11589.html
09:24 <@Evilpig> which is very handy indeed
09:24 <@dc0de> sweet... lemmeno how well it works...
09:25 <@Evilpig> will do.  i'll be on the road today but plan on working on it this afternoon.
09:25 <@dc0de> Evilpig, have you thought about using snare or lasso for syslog
09:26 <@Evilpig> not really.  I don't log much at all on the systems.   was mainly setting up cacti to see what all it could do and also have that nice bandwidth graph so I can tell when people have been pulling the phreaknic videos
09:27 <@dc0de> lasso allows you to pull the windows event logs via WMI, as well as other WMI counters, and send them to syslog
09:27 <@Evilpig> I still need to add in my linux host on the backend and another windows box that does terminal services thenthat will be complete
09:27 <@dc0de> specifically, you can use lasso to simply pull WMI...
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09:28 <@Evilpig> I see a very useful application for that.  I will have to look at that later as well.
09:28 <@Evilpig> I believe that was one of those little hacker kids
09:28 <@dc0de> heh
09:28 <@dc0de> the root dumbass?
09:29 <@Evilpig> yeah
09:29 <@Evilpig> alright I gotta get on the road.  wasted alot of time dealing with that stupid cunt this morning
09:29 <@dc0de> heh
09:32 <@NotLarry> ok, what is your favorite console email client?
09:32 <@NotLarry> funny, when Evilpig says "stupid cunt" I can only narrow it down to a half a dozen women...
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09:34 <@ladymerlin> oh lookie hes back
09:35  * I-MOD looks
09:35  * dc0de gazes incoherently
09:36 <@dc0de> whoa...
09:36 < vapor_pda> hey dc0de.
09:36 <@dc0de> add is cool
09:36 <@dc0de> sup vapor_pda
09:36 <@NotLarry> ok, lets get back to talking about me
09:36 <@dc0de> NotLarry, you're an overgrown windbag
09:37 <@NotLarry>  /kick dc0de cause
09:38 <@dc0de> heh...
09:38 < vapor_pda> so last night I tried to log onto my icq account for the first time in a year or two and found my password didnt work.
09:38 <@dc0de> NotLarry, we love you.... you know we do...
09:38 <@dc0de> you big purple lovable goof
09:38 < xx> was it flooded with sub7 pages
09:38 <@dc0de> oh, wait, that's barney
09:38 <@NotLarry> ok, lets try that again, I need to read email at the shell lvl
09:38 < vapor_pda> Turns out some russian due cracked my acount and changed all the personal info accept for my email and had been using it.
09:38 <@dc0de> vapor_pda, I know, I gave you shit about it.
09:39 <@dc0de> vapor_pda, nice
09:39 <@NotLarry> vapor_pda: so you got it back?
09:39 < vapor_pda> so I put in my email addy and got a new password
09:39 <@NotLarry> sweet
09:39 <@NotLarry> don't forget to let him know what the new password is
09:39 < vapor_pda> now I have a ton of russians IMing me
09:39 <@dc0de> sweet!!!
09:39 < xx> hot russian bride
09:39 <@dc0de> get a translator... and hack them back...
09:40 < vapor_pda> one tried telling me they registered my account for their brother
09:40 < vapor_pda> back in 2005
09:40 <@dc0de> yeah, tell them I registered an account for their mom... on my cock
09:40 <@NotLarry> anyone played hacker evolution?
09:40 < vapor_pda> I said, Like hell you got an account with a low number like 311360 in 2005
09:40 <@dc0de> NotLarry, uh, no?
09:41 <@NotLarry> http://exosyphen.com/page_hacker-evolution.html
09:41 <@dc0de> vapor_pda, I forgot my icq login years ago...
09:41 < vapor_pda> Anybody know of a translator for gaim/pidgin
09:41 <@dc0de> but I had a very low number
09:41 < xx> http://hacker-evolution.en.softonic.com/
09:41 <@dc0de> vapor_pda, I have one in my im+, but not sure about pidgin...
09:42 < vapor_pda> I hardly ever use my icq account. I have no contacts on it,but that doesnt mean I am gonna let some russian keep it after they stole it from me
09:43 <@dc0de> tru
09:43 < tzanger> interesting game
09:43 < tzanger> reminds me of a game a friend wnated me to help write years ago
09:43 < vapor_pda> hmm. I will look at IM+.  I like telling others that their little thief friend was too stupid to change the associated email addy.
09:43 <@dc0de> I no longer have the email that I originally registered with... so...
09:43 < tzanger> Pir8D00d... you hacked BBS systems.. .started out with MS DOS 2 and tried ot get ot the ultimate, NOVELL NETWAREZ
09:43 < xx> ~minilink http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Game.asp
09:43 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/handdrawngames.com/eyfzb.asp
09:43 <@NotLarry> I like the Black edition.  Comes with the windows mobile version, and the source so you can change the game
09:44 <@GodFix> desktopTD is fun
09:45 < vapor_pda> dec0de, so its no biggy if some russian has your as well :-)
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09:46 <@dc0de> vapor_pda, don't care...
09:46 <@dc0de> it's not associated with anything I have today
09:50 < vapor_pda> yeah.  I was only bothered because there is something nostalgic with having a low number .
09:51 < tzanger> that's a fun game
09:51 < xx> DTD?
09:52 < tzanger> yeah tower defense
09:52 < xx> it does kick much ass
09:56 < xx> NotLarry: do you have a copy of hacker evolution that isnt a demo
09:56 <@NotLarry> not yet
09:57 <@NotLarry> vapor_pda: How low is your number?
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10:12 <@NotLarry> xx: But I am thinking of purchasing it.  Maybe I can get the kids interested in game code with that:)
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10:14 < xx> im sure we could find a key for the demo
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10:23 < vapor_lap> hmm PDA is having issues with IRC.
10:24 < vapor_lap> as to how low my ICQ number is, its 311360.  I have seen lower but only from a few and I don't know anybody who uses their ICQ account that has a lower number.
10:27 <@Evilpig> scriptkidde: you're back. welcome and junk
10:29 <@Evilpig> notlarry: have you talked to anyone at the office? they are very angry with me
10:29 <@NotLarry> xx: That sounds illegal.  I would suggest paying for the game:)
10:29 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: I try not to interact with them.  They either want me to do stuff or want to bitch about you:)  What did you do this time?
10:30 <@NotLarry> I can try to get someone here fired if you need a new gig
10:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b ware!*@*] by Shadow_Phone
10:31 -!- Shadow_Phone changed the topic of #se2600 to:  PN0x0b Presentations Now On Google Video - http://phreaknic.info/pn0x0b/presentations.html for links
10:32 <@GodFix> it's not Noon yet
10:32 <@Shadow_Phone> close enough, i can be bothered to rmember
10:32 <@Shadow_Phone> only 28 minutes till noon
10:32 < xx> thanks ;)
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10:32 <@GodFix> it's 10:30 here
10:32 <@Shadow_Phone> dickweed
10:33 <@NotLarry> fuckwad
10:33 <@Evilpig> with the help of mirage i filtered their net again
10:33 <@Shadow_Phone> dammit, i go drive up to nashville now and kill ware
10:34 <@NotLarry> So the Mental Health Cooperative's fax called my voice line.  I forwarded it to our fax, that's how I know who they were.  Think they are trying to tell me something?
10:34 <@NotLarry> Sweet:)  You got to drop a filter on alegro as well
10:35 <@NotLarry> I still want a running log of all chat traffic in and out of that office.  Could be some funny ass shit
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10:38 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, no ops for youz
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10:40 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, seriously now ware, you need to find something better than kick banning for your own drunken amusement
10:40 < ware> agreed. i have a drinkin problem
10:41 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, its called getting drunk on irc
10:41 <@Shadow_Phone> and being a dick
10:41 < ware> no its bigger than that
10:41 <@Shadow_Phone> nothing wrong with getting drunk occasionally
10:41 < ware> thats just a side effect
10:41 <@Shadow_Phone> na, you just happen to show it more
10:41 < ware> haha it was monday night
10:41 < ware> why the hell does anyone need to be drunk on a monday night
10:41 <@Shadow_Phone> duno, u tell us
10:42 < ware> they dont
10:42 <@brimstone> football night?
10:45 <@poiupoiu> a drinking game where you take a shot whenever heroes changes storylines?
10:47 <@NotLarry> so who is xx and why is it suggesting i break the law?
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10:47 <@Shadow_Phone> NotLarry: that was ware
10:47 <@Shadow_Phone> using one of his proxies to get past his ban
10:47 < ware> Evilpig called me 'on of those hackers'!
10:47 < ware> one*
10:48 < ware> WE R GUN POST UR DOX
10:48 <@poiupoiu> dirty haxor!
10:48  * poiupoiu makes a lolcat outta ware 
10:49 <@NotLarry> from a windows 2003 standard edition?
10:49 <@NotLarry> ware: What the hell is HHLS?
10:51 <@NotLarry> ok, linux shell based email client, discuss
10:51 <@NotLarry> ware: what's your username and password?
10:53 < ware> 'what' is my password.
10:53 <@NotLarry> not working
10:54 < ware> i cant gibs u access
10:54 <@NotLarry> Who's box is that
10:54 < ware> HHLS's
10:54 < ware> :D
10:54 <@poiupoiu> i thought what's on 2nd?
10:55 < ware> stop it, no is on 3rd
10:55 < ware> where the hell is playing outfield
10:59 < SkyDog_> Morning all.
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10:59 <@poiupoiu> mornin senor SkyDog_
11:00 <@Fed615>   morning Skydog_
11:00 <@SkyDog_> Hola.
11:03 <@NotLarry> ok, in, cool
11:03 <@Shadow_Phone> whos on 3rd?
11:03 <@NotLarry> oh, wait, I'm in some other box, sorry
11:03 <@poiupoiu> no, he's on 1st
11:03 <@Shadow_Phone> who's on first?
11:04 <@poiupoiu> that's what i'm tellin you
11:04 <@Shadow_Phone> ohh, ok, thx
11:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b coil!*@*] by Shadow_Phone
11:09 <@Shadow_Phone> anther victim of your banning dipshit ware
11:10 <@SkyDog_> Who banned coil?
11:10  * ware 
11:11 <@Shadow_Phone> SkyDog_: scroll back to 1:20am this morning
11:11 <@Shadow_Phone> or 12:20 am your time
11:11 <@Shadow_Phone> drunk ware
11:11 < ware> lol no dont
11:11 <@Shadow_Phone> dammit ware, what hostname did you ban?
11:11 < ware> lern2irc
11:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b coil!*@*] by Shadow_Phone
11:12 < ware> try again
11:12 < ware>  /mode #se2600 -b *!*i=scott@24.96.135.*
11:12 <@Shadow_Phone>  /mode #se2600 -b *!*i=scott@24.96.135.*
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11:12 <@SkyDog_> Jebus.
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11:13 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, got banned this morning for a few hours
11:13 <@Shadow_Phone> we already got his ops taken away
11:13 <@SkyDog_> I didn't see anything that brought it on. What was the deal>
11:13 <@Shadow_Phone> ware + drunk?
11:14 < ware> i am an alcoholic and im sorry
11:14 <@Shadow_Phone> do u need a reason?
11:14 <@SkyDog_> I'd like to know why he went off and started banning, even though he was drunk...
11:15 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: i think that means he would like a reason your dick weed
11:16 < ware> Shadow_Phone and coil are my friends and i figured for all the crap ive got from them in other channels and in the past that they'd be able to take a joke
11:16 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: did you happen to lift the bans after the joke was over?
11:17 <@Shadow_Phone> or did we have to do that ourselves?
11:17 <@Shadow_Phone> hmmmm....nope
11:17 <@Shadow_Phone> thats kinda dick, i can see kick ban joke for like 5 minutes, but remove it afterwards
11:17 < ware> i would have but snm took my balls
11:18 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: W00f
11:18 <@Shadow_Phone> hmm, i didnt ban you untill like 8am this morning
11:18 <@SkyDog_> seeblind: W00f!
11:18 <@Shadow_Phone> that would pretty much leae you with 7 hours to remove it in between then
11:18 <@Dolemite> Anybody with ops in the channel can get the bot to remove their bans, anyway.  If they can't figure out how to do that, they deserve to remain banned.
11:19 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, i had no probelm getting in dole
11:19 <@Shadow_Phone> just didnt want to be bothered
11:19 <@Shadow_Phone> i got enough to deal with in the morning, like waking up
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11:20 <@Shadow_Phone> and connecting to work vnc in bed while drinking my coffee
11:20 < ware> "YOU FUCKING DINGLE CUNT BERRY I WILL KICK YOU PELVIS WITH THE POWER OF A THOUSAND CUNT FARTS dICK FACE SHIT LICKER" ROFL damn that was creative tho
11:20  * Shadow_Phone gets to work from home every tuesday until end of year
11:20 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: you lose
11:20 <@Dolemite> ok, time for luncheez
11:20 < ware> Shadow_Phone: you cunt i didnt have ops in here to unban you
11:20  * wsmith wfh's 2-3 days a week
11:20 < ware> quit rubbin yer dick on my leg, its just irc
11:21 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: when did you lose your ops?
11:21 < ware> 2 minutes after i kicked snm
11:21 <@SkyDog_> Ok, both of you chill out. ok?
11:21 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, vnc to work is great, catching up on my computer games
11:22 <@Shadow_Phone> SkyDog_: heh, ok
11:22  * ware hugs Shadow_Phone 
11:22  * Shadow_Phone hugs ware and stabs him with a dagger
11:22 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, now thats what i call back stabbing
11:23 < ware> ba da tish*
11:24 <@Shadow_Phone> na, wasnt quite the joke for a ba da tish, now if we were talking about your mom, that would be anohter story
11:24 <@Shadow_Phone> *ba da tish*
11:24 < ware> OH!
11:24 < cfh-freak> anyone wanna go get beer tonight?
11:24  * Shadow_Phone raises hand
11:24 -!- cfh-freak is now known as freakn
11:25 < freakn> in atlanta?
11:25 <@Shadow_Phone> i can share my own
11:25 <@Shadow_Phone> aye
11:25 < ware> thats almost as funny as the time that beer bottle got stuck in your moms ass!
11:25 < freakn> in a bar?
11:25 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: hey, shes a great bottle oopener
11:25 <@Shadow_Phone> as long as its clean
11:25 <@Shadow_Phone> freakn: aye, give me a sec
11:25 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, "gibneys pub"
11:25 <@Shadow_Phone> on intl blvd
11:26 < freakn> modtowwn?
11:26 <@Shadow_Phone> i think, thats midtown
11:26 < freakn> noi, interational is downtown
11:26 <@Shadow_Phone> few blocks form centineal park
11:26 <@Shadow_Phone> ah, ok
11:26 <@Shadow_Phone> i work at the old inforum building
11:26 < freakn> ah
11:26 < freakn> cancer society or something?
11:26 <@Shadow_Phone> im driving into work at around 7 to sign some stuff
11:27 <@Shadow_Phone> freakn: yeah, they changed the name 2 weeks ago
11:27 < freakn> I am out of class a bit after 6 in midtown, probably going to a bar for dinner
11:27 <@Shadow_Phone> ok
11:27 <@Shadow_Phone> so no downtown?
11:27 < wsmith> mmm. liquid dinner
11:27 <@Shadow_Phone> ill be done around 8
11:27 < freakn> too damn colr to walk that far
11:27 < wsmith> way more efficient
11:27 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, i liek those
11:27 < freakn> *cold
11:27 <@Shadow_Phone> one word marta?
11:28 < freakn> vleh
11:28 <@Shadow_Phone> vleh, klingon for bleh?
11:28 < freakn> Cardassian
11:28 < freakn> you going to be on here around 6?
11:29 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, dont drive into work ill about 7
11:29 <@Shadow_Phone> wanna skip the traffic
11:30 < freakn> i'll get my phone out at 6 and let you know.  I'll be sure to bring extra clothing
11:31 < freakn> never been to that bar, I don't hang out much behind peachtree center, speant most of my free time downtoen in sono, fairlie poplar, and around 5 points
11:31 < ware> any of you noobs play with trend micro
11:33 <@Shadow_Phone> freakn: yeah, i forgot my jacket today as well
11:33 <@Shadow_Phone> looks like ill be running from location to location tonight to keep warm
11:34  * Shadow_Phone looks for noobs but only come across ware
11:34 < freakn> try to find that peachtree center bridge crossing peachtree, that'll keep you warm
11:35 <@Shadow_Phone> na, its 3 blocks up the hill to the bar, that should keep me warm at a jogging pace
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11:39 <@Evilpig> just got an email from a teacher wondering why a DVD won't play in her external CD drive
11:39 <@poiupoiu> <headdesk>
11:40 <@SkyDog_> I've had doctors that can't figure that one out.
11:40 <@Evilpig> she's the computer teacher......
11:40 <@Evilpig> makes it a bit worse
11:40 <@SkyDog_> Ouch.
11:40 <@Evilpig> I can't get Premiere to install on the laptop. The CD drive doesn't seem
11:40 <@Evilpig> to want to read it. I'm really frustrated and have a bad head cold and I
11:40 <@Evilpig> have a million other things to do. It launches on my computer but not on
11:40 <@Evilpig> the external CD drive. It's a DVD. It doesn't even show up as being in
11:40 <@Evilpig> the drive...
11:41 <@Evilpig> that was the email she just sent.  I really want to respond with.  "Duh."
11:42 <@Pr0nStrGeek> tell her to take it to her car and see if it plays in her CD player...
11:42 <@Pr0nStrGeek> when it doesn't, tell her it's because she doesn't have a DVD player
11:42 <@Pr0nStrGeek> see if it fires the correct response...
11:43 <@Evilpig> I just don't wan to deal with her at all.  what annoys me is that she is trying to replace the current technology coordinator.
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11:44 <@Shadow_Phone> send that letter to the correct people
11:45 <@Shadow_Phone> just to show incompetence
11:45 <@Pr0nStrGeek> LOL
11:45 <@nachoguy> Dolemite: http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2007/11/05/gamerator-arcade-cab.html
11:45 <@Shadow_Phone> thats what i did, to get a tech released cause he was worthless
11:45 <@Pr0nStrGeek> i dunno... you want the really technologically competent people in the techie roles... if she shows that she doesn't have a clue, she might be management material...
11:45 <@Evilpig> that went to their district tech coordinator as well as myself
11:45 <@Shadow_Phone> i bundled a bunch of emails, like 20 duh emails of him asking me for help and sent ot my bos on one reply
11:46 <@Shadow_Phone> boss took 1 day to fire him
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11:50 <@Evilpig> the netsplits the last two days have been pretty bad
11:50 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, tell wares mom to stop sitting on the server
11:50 <@Shadow_Phone> thats should fix it
11:54 < ware> its not my mom, its some noob fuckin up at the noc
11:54 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: "ba da tish"
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11:55 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: ah, stop mesing with that connection then
11:55 < ware> luzl
11:55 <@Shadow_Phone> what is yoru job now anyway?
11:55 <@Shadow_Phone> on-site support?
11:55 < ware> im the receptionist
11:56 < ware> i route important phone calls to management, fwd emails, make calendars, ready the coffee in the morning, make sure we dont run low on snacks
11:56 < ware> etc
11:56 <@Pr0nStrGeek> ware: do you give blowjobs too?
11:56 < ware> very good ones
11:56 <@Shadow_Phone> haha
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12:01 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: you have to be actually complimented on your blowjob skills, before you can say that
12:02 <@Corydon76-dig> I know I haven't complimented you, yet, but there's always a chance you'll improve
12:02 <@Dolemite> Corydon76 will be happy to administer a certification test for you
12:03 <@poiupoiu> best 2 outta 3
12:03 <@Evilpig> please do so as a private course.  it doesn't need to be a public exam
12:03 < ware> Corydon76-dig: can jeff be in the exam too? i seem to do better with multiple choice tests
12:10 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: He'll never let you
12:10 < ware> it was a fantasy. its not happening
12:10 <@Corydon76-dig> I'll find you a bunch of guys you can blow, though
12:11 <@Corydon76-dig> By the end of the evening, your new nick will be "cumbucket"
12:11 <@Evilpig> jeff is ware's idea of a fantasy?  mine are usually big titted blondes or the occasional red head.
12:11 < ware> thought you went for the blue haired chicks?
12:13 < ware> or was that just a fantasy :X
12:13 <@Dolemite> WTF!@#$!@?   "Girl with 8 limbs having 4 cut off"
12:13 <@Dolemite> http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/11/06/india.girl/index.html
12:15 <@Evilpig> ware: pointing out something that actually happened while you are trying to discount something that you claim won't ever happen isn't a good comparison
12:16 < ware> both situations are scary and not desirable to any normal sane person
12:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Hence they must be desireable to you
12:18 <@Dolemite> He's got you on that one, ware
12:18 <@Corydon76-dig> since you date scary people that are not desireable to any sane person
12:18 <@Evilpig> me and the bluehaired chick had alot of fun.  and there are many pictures to show that
12:18 <@SkyDog_> Some that are available for the public to see... Others.. well.. :)
12:18 <@Evilpig> speaking of.  I was thinking about doing mardi gras again.  just don't have the cash
12:18 <@SkyDog_> Everyone is on edge today.
12:19 <@SkyDog_> Is everyone not getting laid-
12:19 <@SkyDog_> I mean, I know Dole is married, but he's actually calm.
12:19 <@Dolemite> I'm married, so you know I'm not getting it that often
12:19 <@Evilpig> I haven't been getting laid in uh...  oh yeah.  pretty sure dolemite has gotten some since I last have
12:19 <@Dolemite> But we have a babysitter for the weekend, so I'm getting some.  Y'all just stay away from the back two rows of the casino bus if you don't mind...
12:20 <@Evilpig> you need two full rows for that?
12:20 <@SkyDog_> wow.
12:20 <@Dolemite> 1 row as a buffer
12:20 <@SkyDog_> There's gonna be kicking and screaming, apparently.
12:20 <@Evilpig> are you bringing a agag for her so nobody can hear her screaming out no?
12:20 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : That's just from me trying to bend into position in those seats...
12:21  * Corydon76-dig got laid during the Titans game
12:21 <@Evilpig> I was offered tickets to the game on sunday that I turned down
12:22 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : Apparently we see what the cost of those tickets were ;)
12:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Ideal situation for most men... watching football while getting their knobs polished
12:25 <@Corydon76-dig> What, no discussion?
12:26 <@Dolemite> Yes, it's ideal, but we're also allowed to be selective about who is doing the polishing
12:26 <@Evilpig> no comment.  can't say I care for football to begin with
12:26 <@Evilpig> so that whoel situation just doesn't sound appealing to me
12:26 <@Dolemite> However you also need some fresh craft brew to enjoy at the same time
12:26 <@Evilpig> getting back on the road
12:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Beer, blowjob, and 'ball?
12:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Wait, that wasn't the Titans game... that was Colts vs Patriots
12:30 <@seeblind> So..........., SkyDog, Heard any good jokes lately?
12:30 <@Corydon76-dig> lol
12:31 <@ladymerlin> i think he jsut left
12:31 <@ladymerlin> hows it going seeblind
12:32 <@seeblind> Doing well.  Just working on somet things while monitoring the chat.  How are you
12:32 <@ladymerlin> good, waiting on my conferance call to start
12:32 <@ladymerlin> whee
12:33 <@seeblind> gotta love those.  What is for phood?
12:33 <@Shadow_Phone> ladymerlin: try being on a 2 hour call with verizon while playing computer games at home
12:33 <@Shadow_Phone> wee, love teleworking
12:33 <@Shadow_Phone> basically monitoring circuits while they do their work
12:35  * seeblind 's stomach grumbles, stumbles off to sate the hunger
12:38 <@ladymerlin> food...thats a good idea
12:51 <@Shadow_Phone> woot, 3 hour call completed, time to go downstairs and fix lunch
12:52  * Shadow_Phone has imprint on ears from teh usb headset
12:52 <@Dolemite> put some pants on first
12:52 <@Shadow_Phone> Dolemite: pervert, get off the webcam
12:53 <@Dolemite> Trust me, the only IP hitting your webcam is scotchick's and your mom's
12:54 <@Shadow_Phone> what, your watching my traffic now?
12:54 <@Shadow_Phone> and na, the cam is for the telcons for scotchick to parents in uk
12:54 <@Dolemite> No, but it's pretty easy to tell what the logs would contain
12:56 <@Shadow_Phone> i did remotely turn on the webcam to find the cats laying on my keyboard, so then i started winamp, put the volume on high and played metal music
12:56 <@Shadow_Phone> cat nearly backflipped off the keybaord from a dead sleep
13:00 <@Shadow_Phone> on a sidenote, i think this will be a strictly housecoat only day
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13:14 < tzanger> ShadowHntr: heh
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13:37 <@wizardPC> Yay for corporate cards!
13:37 <@someninjamaster> hizzah
13:37 <@wizardPC> my coworker just got a bill for $8,000 bcause someone stole her company-issued amex number
13:38 <@juice> ouch
13:38 <@someninjamaster> actually on an amex thats not a whole lot
13:39 <@juice> well if anyone is passing out 8k I'l ltake some :)
13:39 <@wizardPC> so I can take $8000 from you and you wouldnt notice? damn you're better off than I thought!
13:39 <@juice> wizardPC, exactly
13:39 <@someninjamaster> the average charge on the company amex is 20,000
13:40 <@someninjamaster> it gets checked at the end of the month
13:40 <@someninjamaster> so it could ride a few days
13:40 <@someninjamaster> before it got caught
13:41 <@wizardPC> so you just have the one amex? we have about a hundred of them :D
13:41 <@someninjamaster> we have 4 of them
13:41 <@wizardPC> basically she's out of workflow for the next 2 days to clear this up
13:41 <@someninjamaster> haha
13:42 <@wizardPC> I had a physical debit card stolen a couple of years ago and it really sucked trying to clear that up during finals
13:43 <@someninjamaster> thats why i dont have a debit card
13:43 <@someninjamaster> a credit card is much easier to work out when its stolen
13:44 <@wizardPC> that was before Visa required the bank reinstate the funds immediately
13:44 <@wizardPC> now if your debit card gets stolen, they cancel the card and put the money back in immediately, then investigate
13:47 <@someninjamaster> ah
13:51 < ware> lol tech here changed the ip address on a dc and 3 sites are down
13:51 <@ShadowHntr> whoops
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13:54 <@someninjamaster> doh
14:01 <@wizardPC> so I did some research lsat night, and apparently that $800 phone's front camera can ONLY be used for taking pictures of yourself, or for video calls using AT&T's videocall service @ $0.99/minute
14:01 <@wizardPC> skype no worky with fron camera
14:02 <@dc0de> heh
14:03 <@someninjamaster> heh
14:05 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: hmm, which company/location?
14:07 < ware> a hospital
14:07 < ware> in middle tn
14:09 <@Shadow_Phone> start with a P?
14:15 <@someninjamaster> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/1105072jenkem1.html?45
14:16  * someninjamaster wonders what the fuck is wrong with kids these days
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14:20 < tzanger> unbelievable
14:20 <@someninjamaster> no kidding
14:21  * wizardPC reminds someninjamaster that he is probably the youngest in the room
14:21 <@someninjamaster> im old enought not to inhale shit to get high
14:21  * wizardPC looks at ware
14:22 < ware> hahaha
14:22 < ware> i was waiting for that
14:22 <@SkyDog_> Ahem.
14:22 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: how old are you, again?
14:22  * dc0de wonders if people really read
14:22 <@someninjamaster> i think thats beyond ware
14:22 < ware> snm: how old are you?
14:22 <@someninjamaster> 20
14:22 <@SkyDog_> 37.
14:22 < ware> <- 22
14:22 <@SkyDog_> ^12
14:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, coil is the same age as you
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14:22 < ware> 1/2(22^12)
14:22 <@sdodson> ware is bad influence
14:23 < ware> baudburn just had a bday
14:23 <@Corydon76-dig> I suppose I need to go out recruiting and bring in some young blood
14:23 <@someninjamaster> skydog i thought you were like 30
14:23 <@SkyDog_> You're keeping track?
14:23 <@dc0de> ware, you need to learn math.
14:23 <@someninjamaster> shit man you got one foot in the grave
14:23 < ware> yea 22^6 is a big number. get off it
14:24 <@SkyDog_> Um...
14:24 <@Shadow_Phone> Corydon76-dig: isn't that what yak is for?
14:24 <@someninjamaster> haha
14:24 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: I'll kick that 20 year old ass.
14:24 <@someninjamaster> if you can catch me
14:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow_Phone: hasn't been very successful in bringing in younger people to se2600, I don't think
14:24 <@someninjamaster> im pretty good at nike ju jitsu
14:24 <@sdodson> is yak an orgy?
14:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, maybe devemo
14:25 <@someninjamaster> from what i have heard yes
14:25 <@Corydon76-dig> and Shadow is in the middle of that orgy
14:25 <@Shadow_Phone> no, i just have webspace off their server and strick is a cool person
14:25 <@sdodson> there was a room full of yak at oz and it smelled like yak
14:26 <@SkyDog_> heh.
14:27 <@sdodson> think maybe someone was sick
14:27 <@dc0de> Shadow_Phone is the yak pivot man
14:27 <@sdodson> pivot?
14:27 <@dc0de> he practices the "Yak on" "Yak off" moves all the time
14:27 <@sdodson> that bobbly head dude is odd
14:28 <@SkyDog_> bobbly?
14:28 <@sdodson> the one thats always tripping over cords and spilling things
14:28 <@someninjamaster> brb
14:30 < ware> lol someninjamaster cant drink in public
14:30 <@someninjamaster> i cant drink period
14:30 < ware> youre not missing out on a whole lot
14:30 <@someninjamaster> i have a bum liver
14:31 <@SkyDog_> ware: We know. You act like an asshole when you're drunk.
14:31 < ware> mines probably bummed too
14:31 <@dc0de> ware, no, that's your bum.... it's tired of being fucked
14:31 < ware> you should see me drunk and acting like an asshole in person
14:32 <@dc0de> ware, been there, done that...
14:32 < ware> youve seen me being an asshat
14:32 <@dc0de> ware, yes?
14:32 < ware> but not an asshole
14:32 < ware> i havent hit anyone
14:32 <@SkyDog_> I saw something at PN that I don't ever want to deal with again, understand? :)
14:32 <@dc0de> flying chairs?
14:32 < ware> cockpunch!
14:32 <@SkyDog_> Mondo Cockpunch.
14:33 <@someninjamaster> i think if anything else goes off the roof it will be more of a cockrip
14:33 <@dc0de> cocksledgehammer
14:33 <@Dolemite> Yay, meetings over for at least the next 27 minutes!
14:33 <@dc0de> Dolemite, you get to go pee now!
14:33 <@SkyDog_> Coffee Time!
14:33 <@critch> what went off the roof?
14:34 <@dc0de> critch, almost ware
14:34 <@Dolemite> Nah, I took care of the bio break between meetings
14:34 <@critch> why almost?
14:34 <@Dolemite> while SMS'ing Skydog with sweet nothings
14:34 < ware> i threw a chair off the roof cause wontonjoe dared me
14:34 < jonnyx> Damn, sounds like I missed all sorts of fun at PhreakNIC this year.
14:34 < ware> and cause i wanted to see a flying chair
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14:35 <@SkyDog_> ware: No, you threw it off because you are an idiot.
14:35 < ware> and i wouldnt have got caught if i didnt put the broken pieces on top of skydogs car
14:35 <@someninjamaster> sup jonnyx
14:35 <@someninjamaster> what are you talking about
14:35 <@SkyDog_> ware: Dude! you admitted to me that you did it!
14:35 <@jonnyx> Ware: You and Rattle should get together re: flying chairs.
14:35 <@someninjamaster> skydog was the one that made you go down and get it
14:35 <@SkyDog_> You walked up while I was looking over the balcony, and said you did it.
14:36 < ware> SkyDog_: s/got in trouble/had to pay $50/
14:36 <@jonnyx> Howdy, sninja
14:37 <@someninjamaster> skydog did the mayo from blackstone come out of your director shirt
14:39 <@Evilpig> someninjamaster: that wasn't mayo.  and corydon76 gave him some stuff to get it out
14:40 <@someninjamaster> haha
14:41 <@Dolemite> I thought Corydon was the reason for the stain to begin with?
14:42 <@Evilpig> alright now this has happened twice and I am not finding a reason why so I am asking y'all.  I rebuilt this firewall on saturday.  yesterday eth1 just dropped all of its connections.  I rebooted it was fine.  today...  same thing just happened again.  I checked the messages log but it really didn't have any clues other than:  :Nov  6 13:35:49 firewall kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out
14:42 <@Evilpig> any ideas on where to look what is up?
14:43 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Answer yer phone, be0tch!
14:43 <@dc0de> Evilpig, check the switch ports, duplex and speeds.
14:43 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Will in a sec.
14:43 <@Evilpig> none of that has changed
14:43 <@Dolemite> bah
14:43 <@Evilpig> same box that has worked for 4+ years 
14:43 <@Evilpig> all I did was wipe the OS and reinstall
14:43 <@dc0de> Evilpig, they may not have changed, but there could be a problem with the switch, or cable...
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14:44 <@dc0de> it may be totally unrelated
14:44 <@Evilpig> I'll try another port on the mini switch
14:44 <@Evilpig> oh and if I just did ifconfig eth1 down  then ifconfig eth1 up.  it started working again
14:45 <@dc0de> Evilpig, I would run a pcap on that interface
14:46 <@Evilpig> 24 hours of packet capture can be pretty big around here
14:46 <@dc0de> only run it for the 5 mins before it shuts down... it is at the same time every day, right?
14:46 <@Dolemite> It's quite possible a bad RJ45 connector
14:46 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Calling.
14:46 <@Evilpig> no
14:47 <@Evilpig> was about an hour earlier yesterday
14:47 <@dc0de> ok, then I would run a pcap starting at the time it went down yesterday, until it dies in the morning...
14:48 <@dc0de> is it plugged into an intelligent switch?
14:48 <@Evilpig> nope
14:48 <@Evilpig> fiber line comes into a little 8 port switch that ismy dmz.  then to the firewall.  which connects to the real network
14:48 <@Evilpig> not much of a dmz considering just the firewall is on it right now but still
15:08 <@Dolemite> Um, Google Video rejected 2 of the videos from PN0x0b...   my opening remarks (probably because of the South Park video) and oddly enough, Acidus' talk.
15:08 <@Corydon76-dig> What was wrong with Acidus' talk?
15:08 <@someninjamaster> because he directly talked about google aps
15:08 <@Dolemite> I have no clue, it just says that it doesn't comply with their policies
15:08 <@Dolemite> Perhaps too much profanity
15:08 <@Dolemite> Hell if I know
15:09 <@Dolemite> Did he?  I haven't had a chance to watch them all.
15:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Resubmit to youtube?
15:09 <@Dolemite> They're too big, besides Google owns YouTube
15:09 <@someninjamaster> he just said some stuff about the security of googles ajax apps
15:09 <@Dolemite> I'll figure something out
15:10 <@Corydon76-dig> You could always resubmit them, then download the swf and host that...
15:10 <@Corydon76-dig> There's a good bandwidth savings just converting it
15:10 <@Dolemite> I've already got an avi->swf convertor
15:10 <@someninjamaster> i havent been able to find a way to download youtube movies
15:11 <@Corydon76-dig> You know that as soon as you say Google rejected the video, it's instantly the most popular download
15:11 <@Dolemite> Yep
15:11 <@Dolemite> But I will handle this
15:12 <@SkyDog_> Kick in in the scrote dole!
15:12 <@SkyDog_> kick them.
15:12 <@SkyDog_> siht.
15:12 <@SkyDog_> shit.
15:13 <@SkyDog_> Ok, it's time to stop drinking scotch at lunch.
15:13 <@Evilpig> especially if you arent' sharing
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15:14 <@SkyDog_> ahem.
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15:14 <@someninjamaster> heh
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15:16 <@someninjamaster> so have we came up with a code for where we are eating after the meeting'
15:16 <@someninjamaster> s
15:16 <@Dolemite> Yes, it's called, "Terry, leave."
15:16 <@someninjamaster> haha
15:17 <@Dolemite> ware said he'd sleep with her.  I think that would be enough for her to never come back.
15:18 <@SkyDog_> Or him to commit suicide.
15:18 <@Dolemite> double double bonus!
15:18 <@SkyDog_> woohoo!@
15:18 <@SkyDog_> remember to make HER hold her stomach back out of the way. Ware, you don't need to do all of the work while going down on her...
15:19  * someninjamaster vomits
15:19 <@ladymerlin> ok thanks im not hungrey
15:20  * nachoguy needs to go home and sleep
15:20 <@SkyDog_> One word. Cheese.
15:20 <@ladymerlin> ewwwwwwww
15:20 <@someninjamaster> im just glad that shadow was sitting next to her and not me
15:20 <@nachoguy> I've got a food coma from lunch, and then two pints of cider
15:22 <@SkyDog_> ware: Is it more like parmesan, or a brie?
15:23  * someninjamaster vomits again
15:23 <@SkyDog_> You know, you have to take into account that parmesan gets smellier when it's warm.
15:23 <@ladymerlin> ewwwww stop
15:23 <@Evilpig> [15:21] Brit: now my facebook isnt working so you can get right on that as well
15:23 <@Evilpig> [15:22] Wilpig: umm yeah.  i'll say working as intended
15:23 <@Dolemite> No, I think she's got a Gouda Belly
15:24  * someninjamaster is about to kickban himself out of the channel
15:24 <@seeblind> I thought it was a Buda belly
15:25 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: You haven't heard that funny noise when she spreads her legs? i thought everyone could hear it.
15:25 <@ladymerlin> ok really
15:25 <@ladymerlin> im not gonna eat for the rest of the day now thanks
15:25 <@Evilpig> y'all talking about DoS?
15:25 <@SkyDog_> That's just one more service that I offer.
15:25 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: Yeah.
15:25  * someninjamaster looks at his pocketknife
15:25 <@Evilpig> hahaha
15:25  * someninjamaster then looks at his wrists
15:26  * someninjamaster looks back at the pocketknife
15:26 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : I heard that sound, but thought that it was just a backfiring vehicle?
15:26 <@ladymerlin> snm...its not worth it man...use the gun
15:26 <@someninjamaster> eh
15:26 <@someninjamaster> if i had a gun id be taking people with me
15:28 <@SkyDog_> It's like the sound of wet velcro.
15:28 <@ladymerlin> and on that note im going home
15:28 <@Evilpig> mmm hot.  need to go rub one out.  brb
15:37  * jonnyx returns, scrolls up bit, and immediately leaves again while resisting the temptation to ask who this Terry person is...
15:40 <@someninjamaster> jonnyx
15:40 <@someninjamaster> we could have hooked you up with her at pn0x0b
15:41 <@Evilpig> haha
15:42 <@Shadow_Phone> nah, then he would of been cheating on dagmar
15:42 <@Shadow_Phone> you know how close those 2 get at pn's
15:42 <@someninjamaster> yeah
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15:43 <@Dagmar> SOOOPRISE!!!
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15:43 <@Dagmar> lol
15:43 <@Shadow_Phone> whats not serious, we have proof
15:43 <@Shadow_Phone> shall i find the pic?
15:43 <@Dagmar> Hey dumbass, I was _there_ remember?
15:43 <@Pr0nStrGeek> c'mon... fat girls need loving too...
15:43 <@Dagmar> It was all too easy to freak you guys out by making it look like I was kissing Dru
15:43 <@dc0de> fat is ok, skanky doens't change
15:43 <@Pr0nStrGeek> LOL... kinda like... "you can't fix stupid?"
15:44 <@dc0de> s/doens't/doesn't
15:44 <@Shadow_Phone> or attention whore?
15:44 <@dc0de> Pr0nStrGeek, yeah, 'cept skanky rarely washes off either...
15:44 <@dc0de> you have to wait for the skin to slough off
15:44 <@Shadow_Phone> ...fat attention whore?
15:45 <@SkyDog_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y-9RcQTmlo&NR=1
15:45 <@SkyDog_> ~minilink
15:45 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/youtube.com/kEy9T
15:45 <@SkyDog_> Sorta NSFW
15:45 <@Pr0nStrGeek> sorta? lol
15:45 <@dc0de> just sorta? I'm disappointed
15:45 <@SkyDog_> Japanese prank video.
15:46 <@Shadow_Phone> does nsfw count for teleworking?
15:46 <@dc0de> oh is this the one with the chairs?
15:46 <@SkyDog_> Well, any nudity is covered up with mosaic
15:46 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: I dunno.
15:46 <@dc0de> the massage chairs?
15:46 <@Pr0nStrGeek> Shadow_Phone: depends on your VPN gateway's split tunnel policy...
15:46 <@SkyDog_> Yeah.
15:46 <@dc0de> oh yeah, this one is fucking hilarious.
15:46 <@dc0de> although, I'd kill someone if that was me...
15:46 <@Shadow_Phone> Pr0nStrGeek: nah, im on my home computer for irc
15:46 <@dc0de> :)
15:46 <@Shadow_Phone> work laptop on vnc
15:47 <@Pr0nStrGeek> in that case, just make sure you open the web browser on the home pc...
15:47 <@Pr0nStrGeek> not like your web browsing is going to magically tunnel across vnc and go out the proxy at the office...
15:48 <@Dagmar> In re: to that YouTube video... THOSE GUYS ARE BASTARDS
15:48 <@Dagmar> Wow.  :)
15:48 <@SkyDog_> I like the rocket chair near the end.
15:48 <@dc0de> this one is hilarious  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wTyI9xqy7U
15:48 <@Shadow_Phone> Pr0nStrGeek: it was a joke, i know that
15:48 <@brimstone> scrobbling
15:48 <@brimstone> ww
15:49 <@dc0de> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgnFyCMiFAU&NR=1
15:50 <@dc0de> this one is a variant on the snow things... but with porta potty's
15:50 <@Dagmar> Oh man
15:50 <@Dagmar> The Japanese must be stopped
15:51 <@dc0de> heh.
15:52 <@dc0de> Dagmar, did you watch all of it?
15:52 <@SkyDog_> HAHaHAHA!!!! The porta potty is hilarious!
15:52 <@Dagmar> About halfway through the potty one now
15:52 <@dc0de> there is a double...
15:53 <@dc0de> so beware, if Yak builds a porta-potty after their photo booth, be careful...
15:53 <@dc0de> at 3:43 in the porta potty... a double
15:54 <@dc0de> the last one is hilarious... attached to a boat
15:55 <@dc0de> water skiing, and shitting
15:56 < ware> SkyDog_: you guys are nasty
15:56 < ware> thats about over the line
15:57 <@Shadow_Phone> i think im gonna get someone to forge my signature or have my boss sign off my handoffs, so i dont have to come in today
15:57 <@Shadow_Phone> really dont wanna get dressed, house coat is quite confortable
16:00 <@dc0de> now this is funny....
16:00 <@dc0de> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDHp9C2KQAw
16:00 <@dc0de> I must try this...
16:01 <@dc0de> Shadow_Phone, so when are you and Scotchick getting married?
16:03 <@Dagmar> Damn I am *really* getting tired of coughing
16:05 <@Dagmar> Oh holy christ... waterskiing???
16:06 <@Shadow_Phone> dc0de: who knows
16:06 <@dc0de> Dagmar, yeah... that's funny isn't it!?
16:07 <@Dagmar> It's madness
16:08 <@Shadow_Phone> MADNESS?!?!?!, this is not madness, this is #se2600!!!
16:10 <@Shadow_Phone> woot, finished all my work for today and the boss signed my handoffs
16:10 <@Shadow_Phone> time to shut down the work laptop and veg out in front of the tube
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16:31 <@wizardPC> anybody got an AGP vid card they're getting rid of? as in it's just taking up space?
16:32 <@wizardPC> I need to replace my All-In-Wonder with a PVR500, and just need an AGP card so the system will boot
16:34 <@Dagmar> What?
16:34 <@SkyDog_> wizardPC: I may have one, but it may be faster to get one from compuseless.
16:34 <@Dagmar> Your machine requires a video card to boot?
16:35 <@wizardPC> dont they all?
16:35 <@wizardPC> every machine I've ever owned has totally freaked without a vid card
16:35 <@Dagmar> HAH
16:35 <@Dagmar> No dude, most of them dont' actually care
16:35 <@wizardPC> SkyDog_, that's fine, it's an ongoing project that I probably wont get to until after christmas
16:36 <@Dagmar> There'll be an option in the BIOS that's something along the lines of telling it what errors to halt on.  Set it to "NONE" and it'll merrily boot a machine with no video card or keyboard
16:36 <@wizardPC> Dagmar, well shit I'll just yank that puppy out tonight and we'll see what happens
16:41 <@Evilpig> dc0de: /usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_nt -H jackinthebox.ics.local -p 1248 -v COUNTER -l "\\MSExchangeIS Mailbox(_Total)\\Messages Submitted"
16:41 <@Evilpig> 1892
16:41 <@Evilpig> it works
16:50 <@SkyDog_> Jebus.
16:51 <@SkyDog_> Watching people try and skew numbers to justify whatever they want is so exasperating.
16:51 <@critch> how goes location hunting?
16:52 <@SkyDog_> Feh. Still working on it. Got a call in to look at teh 4000sq ft location.
16:52 <@critch> btw, cured Howard of his misconception on quoted price of space?
16:52 <@wizardPC> are you watching congress again?
16:52 <@SkyDog_> brb.
16:52 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: "How to Lie with Statistics" comes to mind
16:52 <@SkyDog_> critch: What?
16:52 <@critch> sorry, wrong symbol. Howard thought the quoted price for space was the monthly rate, not the yearly rate
16:53 <@critch> such as $5/sqft = sqft * price / 12 for monthly rate
16:54 <@dc0de> damned grill...
16:54 <@dc0de> grrrrrr
16:54 <@SkyDog_> Ah.
16:54 <@SkyDog_> I didn't know about that.
16:54  * dc0de is going to build one... I'm tired of this buy a grill, works for 3 years, then dies
16:54 <@Dagmar> Time to buy BRICKS!
16:55 <@wizardPC> because building one is going to be so much less of a headache?
16:55 <@dc0de> Dagmar, no, time to build one that's quality....
16:55 <@SkyDog_> With BRICKS!
16:55 <@Dagmar> Wait, how does a grill _stop working_?
16:55 <@critch> yes, 4000sqft * $5/sqft = $20000, or $1666.66 a month
16:55 <@wizardPC> it just hold stuff that burns
16:55 <@dc0de> I'll go get a gas base that's made from something other than cheap chinese metal.
16:55 <@Dagmar> Maybe spiders climb into the gas nozzles and block it up or something?
16:55 <@dc0de> Dagmar, gas grill.
16:56 <@dc0de> Dagmar, that's extra flavor
16:56 <@Dagmar> I mean, you turn the knob, gas comes out, you light the gas quickly, and you're done
16:56 <@Evilpig> dc0de: you can make a gas grill with bricks
16:56 <@Dagmar> Wait
16:56 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar: Until you put it outside for a few years.
16:56 <@dc0de> Evilpig, I am going to...
16:56 <@Evilpig> tie it in the natural gas line and you don't have to buy propane either
16:56 <@Dagmar> You *do* know your'e supposed to replace the big white container when it's empty, right?  ;)
16:56 <@dc0de> I'm going to build a surround from bricks, and use the house line
16:56 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: but you may be filling in a crater with a bulldozer later
16:56 <@wizardPC> so im thinking of starting a "contaminated chinese product of the day" website
16:56 <@dc0de> Dagmar, new container
16:57 <@dc0de> wizardPC, you don't have enough bandwidth
16:57 <@wizardPC> lol
16:57 <@Evilpig> okay this cacti script works.  but I have to set it to poll for data more than once every 5 min 
16:57 <@dc0de> internap doesn't have enough bandwidth
16:58 <@Dagmar> dc0de: Okay, so you replaced the igniter, right?  (assuming you've got a pushbutton clicky)
16:59 <@dc0de> Dagmar, it is lit, and the gas flow is fucked... I think the regulator is toast.
16:59 <@dc0de> it's flowing very low...
16:59 <@wizardPC> this is what pushed me over the edge: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22712064-2,00.html
16:59 <@dc0de> so it's almost useless
16:59 <@wizardPC> ~minilink
16:59 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/com.au/RYJBg.html
16:59 <@Dagmar> Sounds like it's stopped up with spiders or rust then
16:59 <@dc0de> the regulator hasn't been exposed to anything.
17:00 <@dc0de> wizardPC, that's AWESOME!!! I want one
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17:06 <@rhia> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420AP_wa_falling_cow.html?source=mypi
17:08 <@wizardPC> wait...the cow fell 200ft, hit a moving van, and *still* was alive?
17:08 <@dc0de> rhia, damn...
17:08 <@dc0de> it's the end of the world, the cows are killing themselves!
17:08  * dc0de wonders if the Everson's are going to become vegetarians.
17:08  * dc0de wonders what they did with the meat.... 
17:10 <@wizardPC> well probably nothing much since it was filled with cow-killing drugs
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17:15 < freaknmobile> shadow here?
17:15 <@Shadow_Phone> meow
17:15 <@Shadow_Phone> did make it into the office
17:15 <@Shadow_Phone> gonna have to decline
17:16 <@Shadow_Phone> *didnt
17:16 < freaknmobile> i need to get food now rather bad
17:16 <@Shadow_Phone> bar food, good
17:16  * Corydon76-dig offers to feed freakn
17:16 <@Shadow_Phone> thats not food your offering
17:17 < freaknmobile> ha.  i was backing out too
17:17 <@Shadow_Phone> oh realy?!?
17:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow_Phone: get yer mind out of the gutter
17:17 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, look whos talking
17:18  * Corydon76-dig is sweet and innocent
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17:18 <@Shadow_Phone> bahaha, thats a riot
17:18 < freaknmobile> now that i know you are nearby, i will catch you another day
17:18 <@Shadow_Phone> cool, awesome, anytime
17:18 <@Shadow_Phone> only telework tuesdays
17:18 <@Shadow_Phone> sorta part of my promotion deal
17:18 <@Shadow_Phone> and my company saves money on taxes via the clean air campaign
17:19 <@Shadow_Phone> just keep in mind i work till 8pm
17:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Is "Clean Air Campaign" a Georgia thing?
17:21 <@Shadow_Phone> not sure
17:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Apparently so
17:21 <@Shadow_Phone> ok
17:21 <@Corydon76-dig> No such tax benefit for us
17:21 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, it is ga only
17:21 <@Shadow_Phone> http://www.cleanaircampaign.com/
17:22 < freaknmobile> some metro atlanta thing.  federal funds
17:22 <@Shadow_Phone> i like it, hence i stay home today
17:22 <@Corydon76-dig> My PT boss would love that... tax credit for the 4 days a week I don't come in
17:22 <@Shadow_Phone> and got my work done
17:23 <@wizardPC> glad I could help pay for you to stay at home...
17:23 <@Shadow_Phone> thank you
17:24 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardPC: not your money
17:24 <@wizardPC> Federal money? I'm pretty sure that's mine
17:24 <@wizardPC> I do pay taxes
17:25 <@Corydon76-dig> You don't need the moral responsibility of killing innocent civilians
17:25 <@wizardPC> "Funding is provided in part through a grant that is part of the federal transportation bill"
17:25 < freaknmobile> go get your own grant
17:25 <@Corydon76-dig> If it is your money, then you're morally responsible for each innocent government guns kill.
17:26 <@wizardPC> well it's not as bad as the guy who bought a boat with his EITC check, so I'll let it pass
17:26 <@wizardPC> :D
17:26 <@Corydon76-dig> I agree that EITC shouldn't give you a check back for more than you put in
17:27 <@Corydon76-dig> but I don't believe that it does
17:27 <@wizardPC> that's what the EITC is, a check for more than you put it
17:27 <@wizardPC> so you pay no federal taxes, and you get a check from the government to boot
17:28 <@Corydon76-dig> No, EITC is a credit for what you do... it simply decreases the overall amount that you pay in taxes
17:28 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't think that's correct
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17:28 <@Corydon76-dig> IIRC, it's one of the loopholes that Newt Gingrich closed
17:29 <@Dagmar> When?
17:30 <@Dagmar> Last I checked, people with almost no income still got more back than they paid in.
17:30 <@Corydon76-dig> 1995, I suspect.  Contract on America
17:30 <@Dagmar> It's not like it's anything like a significant amount of money tho
17:30 <@Corydon76-dig> enough to buy a boat?
17:30 <@Dagmar> Not without getting sodomized by the IRS for being unable to do simple math
17:31 <@Dagmar> ...or perhaps a very _small_ boat
17:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Toy boat.  ;-)
17:31 <@Dagmar> I think the max you ccould get out of it is like 6 g's
17:31 <@Dagmar> It's easy enough to grab a 1040-EZ form and look
17:31 <@wizardPC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earned_income_tax_credit
17:32 <@wizardPC> I should not have said "bought a boat" I should've said "Paid off his boat"
17:33 <@wizardPC> but the point I was trying to make was that if he is making so little that he qualifies for the EITC, then he should not own a boat at all
17:34 <@Dagmar> Unless he's a fisherman
17:34 <@wizardPC> he should be like, feeding his kids or something
17:34 <@Dagmar> ...although this is income we're tlaking about
17:34 <@Dagmar> He might actually have savings
17:34 <@wizardPC> yes, unless he;s a commercial fsherman
17:36 <@wizardPC> If you are making $30,000/year combined income and have 2 kids, you have no business owning a boat.
17:36 <@wizardPC> you're "poor" and a boat is a
17:36 <@wizardPC> luxury
17:36 <@Corydon76-dig> I think that's a little harsh
17:37 <@critch> :q
17:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Next thing you'll be saying is that such a person should not be going to the movies, as that's a luxury
17:37 <@critch> oops, wrong window
17:38 <@wizardPC> well, they should be at the theater 100 times a year, that's for sure
17:38 <@Corydon76-dig> It's difficult to generalize.  A boat and fishing on the weekend may be the only way that such a guy remains sane, in which case, it certainly is not a luxury, but a necessity
17:38 <@wizardPC> a boat is never a necessity
17:39 <@wizardPC> unless you're a fisherman
17:39 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: a boat is only a necessity when it is a fisherman or during a flood
17:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Again, it's tough to generalize
17:40 <@Corydon76-dig> If your air traffic controller is off kilter because he couldn't go fishing in his boat over the weekend... well... I think I'd rather he be fishing...
17:40 <@critch> wizardPC: there should be a difference though between owning a boat and buying a boat. Owning one and taking the tax credit is one thing, but buying one while taking the tax credit is different
17:40 <@wizardPC> find me one case of THAT happening and I'll relent
17:41 <@wizardPC> re: the ATC
17:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Air traffic controller is one example.  Let's try a Postal worker, for another
17:41 <@Corydon76-dig> If your local postal worker is feeling frustrated when he can't go out fishing... he might go postal, so to speak
17:42 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: and at which time the person has bigger problems and will go postal for any other reason too
17:42 <@Corydon76-dig> Each person has their own methods of relaxing from the work week
17:42 <@Corydon76-dig> and denying a person their method of relaxation is asking for trouble
17:43 <@Corydon76-dig> The world is not so simple as "he shouldn't be buying a boat"
17:43 <@wizardPC> well ATC's make about $100k, so that's not a good example. Saying that we ought to buy someone a boat because he *might* go off and shoot people is absolutely ridiculous
17:43 <@critch> okay, and now for the generalization, if I want my method of relaxing to be going postal on welfare lines, should that be made available to me regardless of my tax credit worthyness?
17:43 <@wizardPC> they're POOR, they SHOULD be stressed
17:43 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardPC: I'm not suggesting buying boats.  but his choice with his money...
17:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Poor people are already stressed enough
17:44 <@Corydon76-dig> We don't need to be adding to their angst
17:44 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: if they are getting tax credits, it isn't their money, it is our money given for usually child care, and a boat is not child care
17:44 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: money is fungible
17:45 <@wizardPC> well, i think you should buy me a mercedes E class because that would ease the stress of me driving an $800 neon
17:45 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: you can consider that the money DID go to child care, and the money saved by having a subsidy went to the boat
17:45 <@critch> could one buy a boat before the tax credit? then it is fungible: nope, not fungibl
17:46  * wizardPC is off, time to go home
17:46 <@critch> gotta go now, riding bike in the cold isn't too much fun.
17:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Consider:  my grandfather sends me a check for $1000 every year for Christmas... what I spend it on is fungible, because once it's added to the account, it mingles with all of the money I earn
17:48 <@critch> and what money uncle sam gives you shouldn't be considered fungible as it is for a specific reason to make certain reliefs. If you don't need that relief you should get that money
17:50 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: right, so in the case of the boat, the money went towards child care expenses, and the money that the guy would have otherwise had to spend on child care expenses, had he not had the subsidy, went for the boat
17:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Since the subsidy is for an inelastic good or service, the guy is gong to spend that money anyway.  That is the reason why there is a subsidy
17:52 <@Corydon76-dig> An elastic good or service does not need a subsidy, because whether you get it or not depends upon whether you have the disposable income
17:53 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm less surprised now about EITC now that I've read the Wikipedia article, since the benefits to society weren't immediately obvious
18:02 < Jagobah> very educational
18:12 <@dc0de> oh this is rich... http://www.snopes.com/humor/business/warnings.asp
18:12 <@dc0de> on a Korean Kitchen Knife: Warning - Keep out of children.
18:13 <@Dagmar> awesome
18:13 <@dc0de> yup... look at the last one on that page...
18:13 <@dc0de> Swedish Chainsaw: Do not attempt to stop chain with your hands.
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18:54 <@dc0de> Evilpig, ping
18:56 <@Evilpig> dc0de: pong
19:00 <@ladymerlin> whee
19:02 <@sdodson> tralala
19:02 <@dc0de> honk
19:04 < tzanger> a-wooo-gah
19:04 < tzanger> (the oldschool call)
19:05 <@dc0de> did you have to crank it?
19:05 < tzanger> I'm old; I have to crank everything
19:05 <@dc0de> you? old?
19:05 <@dc0de> how old
19:05 <@dc0de> 23?
19:05 < tzanger> well compared to some of you
19:05 < tzanger> I'm 31
19:05 <@dc0de> child
19:05 < tzanger> 23?  shit man I had 2 kids by that age
19:06 <@dc0de> I've got you by 11 years
19:06 < ware> <- 22
19:06 < ware> wheee
19:06 < tzanger> dc0de: ok you're the old fart here I guess
19:06 <@dc0de> I was in the army when ware was born...
19:06 <@dc0de> ware, who's your daddy?
19:06 < ware> i was in the army when i was born too lol
19:06 < ware> both my parents were
19:12  * sdodson starting to see a trend of well adjusted people and the military
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19:35 <@sasquatc4> hmm, i think its time to invest in a vga box for the dreamcast
19:36 <@dc0de> ware, I know...
19:45 <@dc0de> this is hilarious... http://www.snopes.com/humor/lists/childsup.asp
19:47 <@sdodson> i guess snopes is expanding their site focus
19:53 <@Dementia> Hi guys.
19:53  * Evilpig pulls Dementia's string allowing her to speak freely
19:54 <@Dementia> I knew there was a reason I don't come in here. It smells like pig.
19:55 <@Evilpig> oh youknow you love me
19:56 <@SkyDog_> You two get a room.
19:56 <@ladymerlin> whee
19:56 <@dc0de> sup Dementia ? howz chittown?
19:57 <@dc0de> chitown even.
19:57 <@Dementia> It's most excellent, thanks for asking. The food here is fabulous.
19:57 <@dc0de> you all settled?
19:57 <@Evilpig> Dementia: i'm coming up there in like two weeks btw
19:57 <@Dementia> For what?
19:57 <@sdodson> early warning!
19:57 <@Dementia> No, I'm still looking for an apartment.
19:58 <@SkyDog_> INCOMING!
19:58 <@Dementia> It's a big city. I can hide. :)
19:58 <@Evilpig> qjay is getting some leave from the marines for a few weeks
19:58 <@dc0de> Dementia, at least you know that Evilpig will have to get his own room... :)
19:58 <@Dementia> Heh
19:58 <@Evilpig> so i am gonna come up to visit 
19:58 <@Dementia> That's cool
19:58 <@Dementia> What, around turkey day?
19:59 <@Evilpig> he's supposed to be flying back around the 16th I think.  and he will be abck for 2 weeks
19:59 <@Evilpig> I need to talk to ray again and get the exact details and make some plans
19:59 <@Dementia> Well if I'm around we should get some dinner or something. This next month and a half is pretty busy since I'm still looking for a place.
19:59 <@Evilpig> k
20:00 <@Dementia> The place I looked at last night was the size of a postage stamp, and a dump, and in a shitty neighborhood - for $1k/mo.
20:02 <@Evilpig> well you know the russian.  well I guess you don't.  but he knows food.  they promised me some good japanese
20:02 <@dc0de> Dementia, do you have a gun yet?
20:04 <@Dementia> Heh, no.
20:04 <@dc0de> i recommend a nice snub nosed revolver, or a desert eagle .50
20:04 <@Dementia> No, I haven't met Jay. I did go see Blade Runner at the Music Box Theater the other night and there were some russians there.
20:06 <@Evilpig> well jay is...  uh.. picture ray.  but 100% more asian and russian.  and bald.
20:06 <@sdodson> He's 200%?
20:07 <@Dementia> The weird thing is that the Indian and Russian neighborhoods are mashed in together. There's an Indian grocery next to a Russian bookstore on Devon st.
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20:59 <@Evilpig> about to just say fuck this firewall and go swap out nics tonight.
21:03 <@SkyDog_> I concour
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21:12 < cwire> what's up everyone
21:15 <@I-MOD> me, just barely
21:16 < cwire> you seem to be the only one
21:16 < cwire> chirp chirp
21:17  * I-MOD rolls around on the floor
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21:32  * brimstone floors around a roll
21:36 <@sdodson> troll
21:42 < cwire> no trolls
21:43 < cwire> i'm trying to avoid writing some java
21:44 <@Dagmar> I can do that all day long
21:44 < cwire> write it or avoid it?
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21:45 < digiears> evenin
21:45 <@Dagmar> Avoid it, of course.
21:45 < cwire> :)
21:46 <@Dagmar> I'm right in the middle of a marathon session of not coding in Java, even as we speak
21:46 < cwire> yeah, i may be doing an all nighter with it myself
21:57 <@sdodson> Dagmar does Java?
22:01 <@Dagmar> System.out.println("Fuck you all");
22:03 < cwire> haha
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22:18 <@brookshire> i'll write your java :)
22:18 <@brookshire> i <3 java
22:18  * brimstone addslashes(brookshire)
22:18 <@brookshire> that's php
22:20  * brookshire gets out the duct tape somemore and logs back into the webserver at work
22:25  * Corydon76-dig adds an itrequest from #se2600
22:26 < cwire> i've never met someone that likes java before, amazing, study this specimen immediately! :-P
22:34 <@Evilpig> cwire: lots of people will agree to write java.  as long as they don't have to use it themselves later
22:35 < cwire> haha
22:38 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: IT?
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22:42 <@brookshire> Corydon76-dig: what?
22:43 <@brookshire> cwire: java is easy, with the right RAD tool.. no RAD tool make java icky!
22:44 < cwire> well the stuff i'm doing is really easy, just not fond of the language
22:45 < ware> http://dumb.ni.gs/~w/wilbur.jpg
22:46  * someninjamaster yawns
22:47 <@sasquatc4> thats right, C ftw!!
22:48 <@Evilpig> what does that have to do with anything?
23:01 <@someninjamaster> i really didnt need to see that
23:12 <@wontonjoe> ware that was painful
23:17 <@wontonjoe> im bored
23:17 <@wontonjoe> i need a place for this 250 gb sata drive to reside
23:18 <@wontonjoe> server or home use, decide i cannot
23:18 <@B3AST> my home use sounds good
23:19 <@wontonjoe> lol
23:19 <@wontonjoe> its probably gonna go on the hd farm here
23:19 <@wontonjoe> beside the 320 esata
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