--- Log opened Sat Nov 03 00:00:36 2007
00:04 <@someninjamaster> sounds like someone wants porn at work
00:12 <@juice> no they have al lwebsites blocked
00:12 <@someninjamaster> haha
00:12 <@juice> I think someone accidentally did a block all
00:12 <@juice> or something when messing with the filter settingsd
00:14 <@someninjamaster> oh
00:57 <@sasquatc4> sweet, remote scheduling is starting to work, now i can set and delete recordings on my box while im at work
00:58 <@someninjamaster> awesome
01:02 <@sasquatc4> though im not sure how much of a market there is for this outside of the company, i mean we can watch tv all day and will be able to see if there is something we want at home, its not like the average person will just randomly be checking tv guide online at their office
01:03 <@sdodson> i know a lot of folks check before heading home
01:03 <@sdodson> maybe one of those "Crap I'm running late and going to miss the news tonight" type things
01:03 <@wontonjoe> oh noes
01:03 <@sasquatc4> ahh, yea
01:03 <@wontonjoe> ive forwarded my cell to the work que
01:04 <@wontonjoe> this way i dont get yelled at if i take a break
01:04 <@sdodson> i hope people aren't taking colbert seriously
01:04 <@wontonjoe> now i need to make nagios text message me
01:04 <@wontonjoe> colbert IS a serious reporter
01:04 <@sasquatc4> well he is pretty much done now since he couldnt get in the democrat ballot
01:05 <@sasquatc4> i dont think i could vote for him though, cause you have no idea where he really stands on anything, at least with stewart you have a good idea, and he would probably talk about them, colbert would just try to be funny
01:05 <@sdodson> i find the colbert report tedious at best
01:06 <@sdodson> ya
01:09 <@Mirage> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1U5V1SuxuI
01:10 <@someninjamaster> hmm
01:11 <@someninjamaster> apparently youtube doesnt like the new version of safari
01:11 <@Mirage> someninjamaster: i should have had this in the rotation at pn
01:11 <@Mirage> don't have firefox on there?
01:12 <@someninjamaster> now its working
01:12 <@someninjamaster> haha
01:17 <@Mirage> damn, they don't have the show tunes segment from taht same episode
01:24 <@SkyDog_> Yawn.
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01:25 <@sdodson> does http://im.microsoft.com load?
01:25 <@someninjamaster> its not loading for me
01:25 <@SkyDog_> nope.
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01:26 <@sdodson> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/  ahhh there it is
01:26 <@sdodson> the MS IMing to cure cancer thing...
01:27 <@sdodson> I bet Balmer has spent more than $144k on toilet paper since March 2007.
01:31 <@SkyDog_> He's probably used 144K as toilet paper.
01:31 <@someninjamaster> remembers to wash his hands after handeling money
02:04 <@wontonjoe> ya you should really wash your hands if you get my money
02:08 <@wontonjoe> sdodson : Developer Developers Developers Developers
02:28 <@ware> "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
02:28 <@ware> SkyDog_: i aoppolgixe
02:29 <@ware> ii am an alcoholic and need a programs
02:29 <@ware> but
02:29 <@ware>   ( ! )
02:29 <@ware>     ` O    ( ? )
02:29 <@ware>      /\__O ´
02:29 <@ware>      > > \     SURPRISE BUTTSECKS wontonjoe
02:29 <@ware> ftw
03:14 <@wontonjoe> lol
03:14 <@wontonjoe> good god ware, thats funny and sick all at the same time
03:14  * wontonjoe goes back to putting in resumes
03:14 <@wontonjoe>  ( ! )
03:14 <@wontonjoe> 21:33 <@ware>     ` O    ( ? )
03:14 <@wontonjoe> 21:33 <@ware>      /\__O ´
03:14 <@wontonjoe> lol
03:15 <@wontonjoe> weird
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03:58 <@wontonjoe> psyiode has joined....blah blah blah
03:58 <@wontonjoe> ( ! )
03:58 <@wontonjoe>                   ` O    ( ? )
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03:58 <@Psyiode> hi hi hi
03:58 <@wontonjoe> how goes it
03:59 <@Psyiode> alright
03:59 <@wontonjoe> well thats good i suppose
03:59 <@Psyiode> made it back to tempe, been working
03:59 <@wontonjoe> woohoo tempe, dude i scored so much free booze you guys left behind
03:59 <@wontonjoe> i got yaeger and whiskey
03:59 <@wontonjoe> two fifths
04:00 <@wontonjoe> and if work keeps going at its present rate I might just go home and kill both
04:00 <@Psyiode> sounds liek a plan
04:01 <@wontonjoe> ive been putting in resumes everywhere
04:01 <@wontonjoe> im trying not to quit unless i have employment elsewhere
04:02 <@B3AST> wontonjoe: whats your skill set?
04:02 <@wontonjoe> i got yelled at because i was in the bathroom a little over ten minutes at work last night, im the only one here a colo customer called our emergency number to get in, if its not answered in under a min it rings the vp, apparently they sat on the phone while i was in the bathroom for fifteen minutes
04:02 <@wontonjoe> ya know its illegal for me to not have a break in al
04:03 <@wontonjoe> but anyway
04:03 <@wontonjoe> its been a fun fun time here
04:03 <@wontonjoe> b3ast noc support, helpdesk , i know a bit of freebsd server stuff, probably more proficient at windows server 2003 server though
04:04 <@B3AST> and where are you?
04:05 <@wontonjoe> im in huntsville alabama
04:05 <@B3AST> hmm, well theres always NASA
04:06 <@wontonjoe> I did some contract work for them, the contract ended for that, i did apple computer software upgrades
04:08 <@B3AST> NASA using Apple, thats funny
04:08 <@wontonjoe> quite a few do albeit a small userbase compared to the pc users
04:08 <@wontonjoe> i really loved that job
04:08 <@B3AST> I can see um using BSD or some other UNIX but paying for actual Apples
04:09 <@B3AST> or Micro$oft for that matter
04:09 <@wontonjoe> oh they do, my work laptop assigned to me was a g4 17 inch 2.5 gig this was befor macbooks well right at the macbook launch
04:10 <@B3AST> no wonder the cant keep shuttles in the air, spending the budget on MACs
04:10 <@wontonjoe> heh
05:28 <@Shadow404> stupid cat is chasing the mouse cursor on scotchicks machine via synergy
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05:30 <@Shadow404> speaking off, hehe
05:55 <@wontonjoe> im tired
05:55 <@wontonjoe> 72 feels cold this time of year
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08:37 < NewLarry> well now
08:51 <@wontonjoe> there can be only one
08:55 <@Shadow404> OMG
08:56 <@Shadow404> google talk answer machine actually bleeps out a few words that your record
08:56 <@Shadow404> wtf
08:58 <+coil> wtf did you sasy
09:05 <@wontonjoe> gnight
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09:34 <@dc0de> Santa arrives at the mall of Georgia today!!!
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09:38 <@dc0de> mr0nin Neoteric
09:38 <@Neoteric> morning indeed
09:38 <@dc0de> what's new?
09:38 <@Neoteric> this "no more sex w/ 18 yr olds" thing is hard
09:38 <@dc0de> heh.... pun intended?
09:39 <@Neoteric> dc0de: don't make fun of my turgid vocabulary.
09:44  * Neoteric goes off to figure out more clicky
09:46 <@dc0de> more clicky? is that an asian slang for 19yr olds?
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10:40 <@sasquatc4> weee, to zee mountains!
10:41 <@ware> campin?
10:41 <@sasquatc4> snowboardin
10:41 <@ware> lucky
10:41 <@ware> we're going camping tonight
10:41 <@ware> 35 is the supposed low
10:41 <@sasquatc4> sweet, wouldnt mind goin camping, but its gettin to damn cold out there to go anymore
10:42 <@ware> id be down for snowboarding and then camping :D
10:43 <@sasquatc4> im just hoping its not that busy out there, not too many people go this early in the season, and now 2 places are open, so im hoping the hardcore crowd is spread across the 2
10:44 <@sasquatc4> actually maybe 3 places
10:50 <@ware> ive been twice
10:50 <@ware> and im not very good at it but i like it
10:58 <@sasquatc4> yea, thats sorta how i am, took me forever to get semi-good at it, but i still enjoy it
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12:11 <@sdodson> snowboarding sucks, your legs are glued in position as if you were riding a horse
12:15 <@Evilpig> is cacti the way to go for system tracking now instead of mrtg?
12:15 <@sdodson> Well, cacti is significantly more featureful than mrtg.
12:16 <@Evilpig> I am going to redo the firewall at the office when I get out of the movies later and just looking to see what all I should change out on it.  RH9 --> now there have been alot of changes
12:17 <@sdodson> ya, like 4 years of changes?
12:18 <@Evilpig> it was a firewall.  no external access to it.  so I really didn't need to change it much.  but squid was always problematic with it and I didn't feel like compiling a new one.
12:21 <@Evilpig> I'd like to put openvpn on it as well as get squid fixed back up.
12:34 <@Mirage> just toss pfsense on it
12:35 <@Evilpig> I have the firewall rules already worked out for iptables though.  plus I am not really familiar with fbsd
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12:41 <@dc0de> has anyone played with vyatta?
12:44 <@Mirage> Evilpig: toss it on a spare box and play with it.  everything is web-based
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12:49 <@dc0de> Mirage, I know... I was wondering what you thought of it.
12:50 <@Mirage> i have no clue what vyatta is
12:50 <@dc0de> doh, sorry, didn't read clearly... it's an open source router
12:52 <@Evilpig> Mirage: I loaded it on a VM and while it seemed okay.  I need something that I can bring up and get running quickly.  and using what I have alreadyw ill do that
12:54 <@Evilpig> all I plan on doing with this is binding my ips to eth1 - eth1:4  then just running /etc/rc.d/firewall start and my shit will be back up.  then squid, etc can come later when I have time to play with it
12:54 <@Evilpig> would like to run IM Spector as well.  and maybe something like driftnet.  cause that is always amusing
12:55 <@Evilpig> http://imspector.org/
13:08 <@dc0de> heh... animal house is on usa.
13:50 <@ware> wh00p
13:51 <@ware> sup guyz
13:51 <@someninjamaster> sup warw
13:51 <@someninjamaster> ware
13:51 <@dc0de> sup ware
13:51 <@ware> almost packed up to go camping
13:51 <@ware> you find out who your real friends are when it comes down to sleepin in 35 degree weather in the middle of nowhere
13:51 <@dc0de> ware; do you know the difference between anal sex and camping?
13:51  * ware looks at tim
13:52 <@ware> dc0de: yes, and theres not much of a difference!
13:52 <@dc0de> sad
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13:52 <@ware> whats wrong with camping?
13:52 <@ware> or anal sex for that matter
13:52 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: *ping*
13:52 <@ShadowHntr> sup ware
13:52 <@ware> the usual topics, anal sex and dc0de
13:52 <@ware> ;) we're bout to roll out at 230 to go camping
13:53 <@ShadowHntr> lol
13:53 <@ShadowHntr> cool
13:53 <@ShadowHntr> packed sleeping bags and bottles of jack? ;)
13:53 <@ware> yall going to doleweed's gambling birthday extraveganza?
13:53 <@ware> yeah i just got the jack :D
13:53 <@ShadowHntr> yeap
13:53 <@ware> but seriously, i have a drinking problem and i think im going to goto AA haha
13:53 <@ShadowHntr> i'll bring 50 or 100 bucks to blow away
13:54 <@ShadowHntr> never been able to go gambling
13:54 <@ShadowHntr> even if i don't do it often, i want to say i've done it =)
13:54 <@ware> its fun but the money goes alot quicker than you'd think
13:54 <@ShadowHntr> you're probably
13:54 <@ware> and it comes in quick too
13:54 <@ShadowHntr> right
13:54 <@ware> oh ive been a few different times
13:54 <@ware> but it can be very addicting
13:54  * ShadowHntr won't bring any more cash than he possibly can. =)
13:55 <@ShadowHntr> i've learned lessons from family and friends that have gambled in the past.
13:55 <@ware> bring everything you expect to lose
13:55 <@ware> and dont goto the atm, ever.
13:55 <@ShadowHntr> yeap
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14:03 <@ware> gone campin
14:03 <@ware> pz
14:06 <+coil> stfu
14:06 <@dc0de> http://www.kropserkel.com/horsehead.htm
14:06 <@dc0de> sfw
14:07 <@someninjamaster> haha
14:09 <@ladymerlin> whee
14:10 <@someninjamaster> wii
14:14 <+coil> wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
14:14 <+coil> weeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeew
14:14 <@Scotchick> Yeah, gross!
14:14 <@dc0de> groos?
14:15 <@dc0de> gross? it's a stuffed pillow
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14:20 <@seeblind> Afternoon everybody
14:20 <@dc0de> howdy seeblind
14:20 <@ladymerlin> heya seeblind
14:20 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: Ping?
14:20 <@seeblind> You all doing well?
14:21 <@dc0de> watching the finale of animal house on usa
14:22 <@seeblind> I'm cleaning up so photos
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15:17 <@Evilpig> i see this place is just hoppin today
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15:25 <@ShadowHntr> damn
15:25 <@ShadowHntr> i'm about to give up on this proliant.
15:25 <@ShadowHntr> i think it's a lost cause.
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15:26 <@Evilpig> my stepdad brought me his laptop last night to find out why it is funning so slow.  I can't wait to tell him itis because it only has 500MB of ram
15:33 <@freakn> 500 isn't too bad for an outdated laptop.  Does it have a grinding hard drive, windows, and 50 million apps running on it non stop too?
15:35 <@sdodson> 500mb is sort of the point where it runs ok without anything going on in the store, but once people get it home and load all the things they like it goes downhill.
15:37 <@freakn> how soon till flash memory hard drives become affordible?
15:37 <@Corydon76-dig> The issue isn't affordability
15:37 <@Corydon76-dig> The issue is one of reuse
15:38 <@sdodson> read/write cycles are no longer a problem
15:38 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: really?
15:38 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I thought it was up to tens of thousands, but I didn't know they had eliminated the issue altogether
15:39 <@sdodson> So, they do a few things now.
15:39 < eryc> there are new laptops now that use flash drives
15:39 < eryc> its already being done
15:40 <@sdodson> Lots of operating systems are aware of the issue so they reduce the number or cycles.  Also the devices themselves level the accesses across the address space to avoid hot spots.  The devices themselves also prevent extraneous read/writes.
15:40 <@sdodson> They're now at a point where the life is on par with normal magnetic storage.
15:40 <@Corydon76-dig> What do you do for swap space?
15:40 < eryc> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220244
15:40 <@sdodson> Don't swap?
15:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Even my dev system with 2GB of RAM swaps
15:41 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm considering upping the memory specifically due to that issue
15:42 < eryc> my laptop has 2gb of ram
15:42 <@Corydon76-dig> So does my laptop
15:44  * eryc gives Corydon76-dig a cookie.
15:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Apparently OS X is using another 6GB of swap
15:45 <@sdodson> I have 1GB cause my bytes are twice as leet as yours.
15:45 <@dc0de> I have 4gb on my ubuntu...
15:45 < eryc> my dev system has 16gb
15:45 <@dc0de> and it works great
15:45 <@dc0de> lenovo t61 laptop
15:45 <@freakn> I need a new computer :(
15:46 < eryc> my laptop has 12TB storage
15:46 <@Corydon76-dig> I need 3 new computers.  Not happening, though
15:47 < eryc> holographic
15:47 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig, check out Walmart... http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7754614
15:47 <@dc0de> $199 each
15:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Via CPU.  yick
15:48 <@dc0de> hey... price is king
15:48 <@freakn> Via cpu, ha
15:48 <@Corydon76-dig> No, performance is
15:48 < timoguin> yea but!
15:49 < timoguin> with the enlightenment window manager, it's as responsive as vista!
15:49 <@I-MOD> how about performance per watt per dollar
15:49 <@I-MOD> ?
15:49 <@sdodson> I had a Via C3 that worked ok.
15:49 <@freakn> the top gear where they get assulted in Alabama is on again
15:49 <@Corydon76-dig> I calculate I have an extra paycheck at the end of January.  Maybe then.
15:49 <@dc0de> How about a P4 641, for $328?
15:50 <@freakn> I am on a P4 in a SFF case, really do need to get something newer.  I am way past due on an OS rebuild
15:50 <@freakn> like *just* P4, no fancy other words with it
15:50 <@sdodson> I'm avoiding rebuilding as I don't have a valid XP license and I don't want to install Vista.
15:50 <@Corydon76-dig> freakn: no Core Duo?
15:50 <@freakn> no
15:50 <@freakn> I think HT will be the only adjective
15:51 <@Evilpig> at&t usb celluar thing blow ass
15:51 <@freakn> it thinks it is dual, but isn't really
15:51 <@Corydon76-dig> It's getting hard to find a CPU nowadays that doesn't have at least 2 cores
15:51 <@freakn> EvilPig: is it bluescreening on you?  I just fixed one of those yesterday
15:51 <@Evilpig> it keeps just disconnecting on me
15:52 <@sdodson> you got rid of your treo?
15:52 < timoguin> is gmail fucked up for anyone else?
15:52 <@freakn> my next comp will be a dual or quad core.  I have found a motherboard that will take a dual core chip and has an AGP port/slot
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15:52 <@Evilpig> no
15:52 <@Evilpig> just keeps freezing
15:53 <@Evilpig> it's part of my stepdad's laptop
15:53 <@freakn> I still have a sweet ATI All In Wonder AGP
15:54 <@Evilpig> best i can tell this software just sucks. cause the rest of the machine is working fine.
15:54 <@freakn> EvilPig: try turning off acceleration and change it to "manual" through the settings in the ATT program.  When I read up on it, that seems to ffix alot of problems
15:55 <@Evilpig> lemme look for something like that
15:55 <@Evilpig> no such setting
15:56 <@freakn> odd
15:56 <@freakn> maybe a different software thing
15:56 <@Evilpig> 3g watcher by sierra networks
15:57 <@freakn> I remember a PCMCIA Cingular card I installed maybe half a year ago.  The drivers that came with hte CD were flawed and they knew it, but they were still selling it with the bad drivers
15:58 <@Evilpig> this is random could do 2mb or 2kb worth of traffic before it just stops
15:59 <@Evilpig> i hit the disconenect button in the software and it does nothing til i unplug it
15:59 <@freakn> ha
16:00 <@Evilpig> i'm stationary and have 5 full bars on the signal meter yet still it sucks
16:01 <@freakn> hold it in your right hand and hop on your left foot to get the best signal
16:04 <@Evilpig> fuck that noise. once this firewall is back up i'll plug in a hard line
16:10 <@sdodson> timoguin: works for me, i actually had an e-mail I cared about in my gmail for the first time in months.
16:11 <@timoguin> it's working again for me
16:12 <@timoguin> standard version wouldn't load, so i had to do html only
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16:24 < eryc> i did your mom html only once
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16:26 <@Evilpig> leave it to me to write a firewall rule that can mangle an IP to the point of no return
16:26 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Fuck that.  Be PROUD
16:26 <@Dagmar> At least you were attempting to do something that caused that mess to happen.
16:26 <@dc0de> Evilpig, hats off man... that's nice!
16:26 <@Evilpig> all my traffic was going out on .13 and I was mangling it to go out .14  and well...  .14 isn't bound yet
16:27 <@dc0de> heh...
16:27 <@Dagmar> Most of these people never see issues like that because they do their best to do as little work as possible
16:27 <@dc0de> kinda makes it hard to get that routed, huh?
16:27 <@Evilpig> just a tad
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16:27 <@Evilpig> fixed the rule that did that.  and I am binding all the IPs now. then I will put it back
16:32 <@someninjamaster> w00t i found my boost phone
16:33 <@dc0de> someninjamaster, in the last place you looked?
16:33 <@someninjamaster> actually it was in the third
16:33 <@someninjamaster> but i thought id keep on looking
16:34 <@dc0de> sweet...it's good practice
16:41 <@sasquatc4> hah, called the parents after boarding, told em not to tell me the outcome of the game,since they are penn state fans and it was psu v. purdue today
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16:42 <@sasquatc4> first kick off, purdue gets a td on return
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16:42 <@dc0de> sasquatc4, that's always exciting... unless you're rooting for the other team....
16:43 <@sasquatc4> naw, im for purdue, parents are always torn on this game since they dont know who to go for
16:43 <@Evilpig> excellent
16:43 <@dc0de> heh... who is purdue playing?
16:43 <@Evilpig> looks like it is all back up now
16:43 <@sasquatc4> penn state
16:58 <@Dagmar> God it would be cool if CompUSA carried these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR0vowWoZpk
17:06 <@brimstone> that's fairly cheap too: http://www.coolerguys.com/840556081692.html
17:06 <@brimstone> $22.95
17:06 <@brimstone> for the 120mm version
17:07 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but I couldn't get so lucky as for them to have it in stock
17:07 <@Dagmar> This is awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY_CidIS8YM
17:08 <@Dagmar> I'm just wish the video covered the part where the obviously about to happen thing happens
17:08 <@sasquatc4> what, you mean like this, http://www.directron.com/bcoolbr120.html
17:08 <@sasquatc4> for 19
17:09 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I don't really care for lights for their own sake, but that's *useful* lighting
17:13 <@Dagmar> Okay.
17:13 <@Dagmar> This is not right. http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2007/11/just-keep-swimm.html
17:13 <@Dagmar> I have NEVER seen a cat *play* in a filled bathtub before
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17:25 <+coil> hi
17:28 <@Dagmar> Joy
17:28 <@Dagmar> I had no idea Pakistan was coming apart at the seams
17:32 <@Evilpig> man.  squid 2.6 is so much easier to make transparent than the old one was
17:33 <@Dagmar> hahah
17:34 <@Dagmar> You were still using the previous release?
17:34 <@Evilpig> I was running RH9
17:34 <@Evilpig> hadn't messed with it in years
17:34 <@Dagmar> Oh god
17:37 <@Evilpig> yes it was old as dirt and was doing nothing other than routing packets.  but I have plans for it to do alot more now
17:38 <@Dagmar> Yeah it's almost trivial to get 2.6 operating as a transparent proxy
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17:38 <@Evilpig> http_port 192.168.0.146:3128 transparent
17:38 <@Evilpig> and done
17:39 <@Evilpig> of course I already had my iptable rule in there listening on 80.  but still.  that is soooooo much easier
17:40 <@Dagmar> Yep
17:42 <@sdodson> i don't follow football but the notre dame navy game was exciting
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17:43 <@Dagmar> Someone washed the strippers er cheerleaders uniforms in hot water and shrank em?
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17:46 <@sdodson> Dagmar: I didn't know you were a fan.
17:46 <@Dagmar> Not of football
17:47 <@Dagmar> I'm male and I'm hetero, ergo, I like half naked women jumping up and down
17:48 <@Dagmar> Holy shit when did 2Gb of RAM become only $60 at CompUSA of all places
17:49 <@sdodson> Since 4Gb dimms became common?
17:49 <@sdodson> 8Gb dimms just around the corner
17:49 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, it's gotta be because it's PC2-6400 and that's probably not the most common purchase at the moment
17:51 <@sdodson> I never know if misspellings of Ubuntu are people making clever jokes or if they're just poor spellers.
17:51 <@Dagmar> You're living in a fantasy world if you think market factors reduce their willingness to gouge
17:52 <@sdodson> You mean CompUSA?
17:52 <@Dagmar> Yep
17:52 <@sdodson> You're the only person I know of that ever speaks of CompUSA
17:53 <@Dagmar> Well, when one's machine starts overheating generally mail order isn't a great thing to think about
17:53 <@Dagmar> I was just looking to see what equipment I might need to site-inspect my desktop to be sure would fit and I saw that 2x1Gb kit of Corsair RAM for $70
17:53 <@sdodson> RAM upgrades don't really cool a machine.
17:54 <@Dagmar> You should probably put down the bong
17:54 <@Dagmar> ...or possibly up your meds
17:55 <@Dagmar> Not once did I say anything about RAM cooling a machine, nor would a reasonable person make that deduction
17:55 <@juice> heh
17:56 <@Dagmar> So, if you're wondering why I called you a dick to your face at PhreakNIC, well... now we see an excellent example.
17:57 <@sdodson> Not everyone is as touchy about being a CompUSA shopper.
17:57 <@juice> lol
17:57 <@Dagmar> ...and no one would think you're not trolling right now, fuckface
17:57 <@sdodson> :)
17:59 <@freakn> feel the love
18:01 <@Evilpig> I think I feel a lump.  can someone feel this?
18:01 <+coil> hi
18:04 <@freakn> I give free breast exams
18:05 <+coil> Dagmar: let's go to my room for the night, ill show you a good time
18:27 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uSlqI1AVUk anyone think the photo a 2:39 looks like ware?
18:46 <@ladymerlin> whee
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19:01 <@ShadowHntr> evening
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19:18 <@sdodson> Anyone know why typing a url in IE's address bar results in the page opening in firefox?
19:19 <@Mirage> i've seen it a couple times..never really worried about it. I always just assumed it had to do with Firefox being my default browser
19:19 <@sdodson> Firefox is the default, but they want to visit one particular site with IE
19:22 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: use the IE Tab addon for firefox
19:22 <@ShadowHntr> that's what i do most of the time.
19:22 <@ShadowHntr> damn i'm fucking bored.
19:23 <@ShadowHntr> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419
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19:33 <@timoguin> i'm about to build a new computer.
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19:38 <@ShadowHntr> timoguin: cool. bought the parts yet, or still planning
19:39 <@timoguin> just now started looking for the parts
19:39 <@ShadowHntr> cool
19:39 <@timoguin> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129025
19:39 <@timoguin> looks like a solid case
19:39 <@sdodson> i thought you just built one a while ago?
19:39 <@timoguin> i did.
19:39 <@sdodson> you big pimp'n
19:39 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133042&Tpk=bach%2bvx
19:39 <@ShadowHntr> this one's mine
19:39 <@timoguin> but it's a SFF and i don't have enough space for doing anything real
19:40 <@timoguin> and plus the PSU died at PN
19:40 <@ShadowHntr> didn't buy it specifically for the plexi window, but it's a decent touch.
19:40 <@ShadowHntr> i'd suggest you look at the Antec earthwatts PSUs
19:40 <@timoguin> the PSU i had was whatever came with the ASUS barebones system
19:40 <@timoguin> it was like 280 watts
19:40 <@ShadowHntr> yikes
19:41 <@timoguin> had a bad power strip at PN that caused it to keep shutting on and off
19:41 <@ShadowHntr> damn
19:41 <@timoguin> and then it wouldn't stay on all of a sudden
19:41 <@timoguin> i'm very partial to antec cases and PSUs
19:41  * ShadowHntr prefers Thermaltake cases so far
19:42 <@ShadowHntr> Antec's not bad
19:42 <@ShadowHntr> i like their power supplies
19:42 <@ShadowHntr> i got an earthwatts 500w psu
19:42 <@ShadowHntr> also splurged with the processor, an AMD Opteron 1210
19:42 <@ShadowHntr> dual-core AM2
19:42 <@sdodson> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133041 that's what I've got, i don't like the front, it feels cheap
19:43 <@timoguin> i'm not sure if i want intel or amd
19:43 <@ShadowHntr> anything you're looking for in particular?
19:43 <@sdodson> Intel is the better chip.
19:43 <@ShadowHntr> power efficiency?
19:43 <@ShadowHntr> quiet?
19:43 <@timoguin> eh...
19:43 <@sdodson> Better chip and better chipsets to match it.
19:43 <@timoguin> yea i was thinking intel
19:43 <@timoguin> i haven't bought intel in...
19:43 <@timoguin> ever.
19:44 <@ShadowHntr> C2D ain't bad, but they're too expensive.
19:44 <@ShadowHntr> i put in 100 for my proc
19:44 <@sdodson> Buy an AMD, support competition.
19:44 <@ShadowHntr> damn
19:45 <@ShadowHntr> Opteron 1212 is the same price i paid for the 1210 a few months ago.
19:45 <@ShadowHntr> it isn't that much faster, i'm not gonna complain about that.
19:45 <@ShadowHntr> Opteron rocks.
19:46 <@ShadowHntr> if i buy a pre-made HTPC barebones it'll probably end up being intel.
19:46 <@ShadowHntr> i'll only really look at MSI and Shuttle for HTPC setups.
19:46 <@timoguin> 1000W PSU?
19:46 <@timoguin> jesus...
19:46 <@ShadowHntr> um...
19:46 <@ShadowHntr> 500w was overkill for me
19:46 <@ShadowHntr> but that's my use, your system may be more demanding, especially if you do Crossfire or SLI
19:47 <@timoguin> no
19:47 <@timoguin> i don't need more than 500
19:47 <@timoguin> i don't even play games
19:47 <@ShadowHntr> mine's original design goal was for a technical workstation capable of running SolidWorks
19:47 <@timoguin> built-in video is fine for me
19:47 <@sdodson> Ya, don't bother with more than 500W unless you're an SLI 10 harddrive nutter.
19:47 <@ShadowHntr> i'm gonna be doing engineering software and light to moderate gaming.
19:48 <@timoguin> now i may have around 4 hard drives though
19:48 <@timoguin> i have at least 2 500G drives just sitting here
19:48 <@ShadowHntr> i have two 500gb seagate barracudas in this sucker
19:48 <@sdodson> They really don't draw that much afaik.
19:48 <@ShadowHntr> i also have my 300gb barracuda
19:48 <@ShadowHntr> a 120gb barracuda
19:48 <@ShadowHntr> and i think a 30gb wd caviar that i'm going to replace.
19:48 <@timoguin> yea
19:48 <@ShadowHntr> i do NOT need 5 disks in this bitch.
19:49 <@Mirage> i only have a 450w on my gamer..dual core, etc, etc..but on my dual proc server i opted for a 600w since i have a raid array, even if it is only 4 disks
19:50 <@ShadowHntr> i think i'll go for a mid-range Radeon HD this time
19:50 <@ShadowHntr> HD 2600 Pro would do well for me.
19:50 <@ShadowHntr> around 100 for the gfx card
19:50 <@sasquatc4> that one got pretty good marks on tomshardware for an htpc setup
19:50 <@ShadowHntr> timoguin: NVIDIA Quadro FX 560s or 1100s are rather nice and cheap on ebay...
19:50 <@ShadowHntr> :)
19:50 <@sasquatc4> i think there was only 1 issue with it, and thats just cause it wasnt turned on in the drivers yet
19:52  * someninjamaster yawns
19:52 <@ShadowHntr> http://usa.aopen.com/products_detail.aspx?ctgr=73&Auno=1489&mdstl=227
19:52 <@ShadowHntr> looks rather cool for a HTPC setup...
19:53 <@brimstone> i wanna 8G ASUS EeePC
19:53 <@brimstone> :(
19:53 <@ShadowHntr> asus is overrated imo
19:53 <@brimstone> the via nanobook also looks nice, but it's not out yet
19:53 <@timoguin> i love my asus T2-AH1
19:54 <@timoguin> except the proprietary psu died...
19:54 <@ShadowHntr> i wanted the Gigabyte GA-M59SLI but it wasn't available yet
19:54 <@ShadowHntr> so i went with the Gigabyte GA-M68SM-S2
19:54 <@timoguin> i hate people who give bad reviews for products that were DOA.
19:55 <@timoguin> this CPU had 80 bent pins! it sucks!
19:56 <@sdodson> sasquatc4: windows only though?
19:56 <@sasquatc4> probably, good luck getting full acceleration on mpeg4/mpeg2 hd on any card in linux tho
20:05 <@timoguin> recommendations on a video card with good linux support?
20:05 <@timoguin> in the $75 to $150 range
20:08 <@ShadowHntr> hmm...
20:08 <@ShadowHntr> most of the Radeons with the new AIGLX driver have pretty good support now from what i've heard.
20:08 <@ShadowHntr> perhaps an ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT ?
20:08 <@someninjamaster> i have never had much luck with ati stuff
20:08 <@timoguin> eh... i'm not wanting ATI
20:08 <@sasquatc4> id say just figure out what you mostly wanna use it for, find a good listing of those, and then just choose ati or nvidia
20:09 <@sasquatc4> i just know toms has had a bunch of comparisons as of late on the cheaper cards
20:09 <@sdodson> The nvidia cards are well support if you don't mind using the nvidia binary driver.
20:09 <@ShadowHntr> if you're that worried, perhaps an NVIDIA Quadro FX 540?
20:09 <@ShadowHntr> ebay they're extremely cheap
20:10 <@timoguin> no ebay.
20:10 <@timoguin> i'm buying on credit from newegg
20:11 <@ShadowHntr> hmm
20:11 <@someninjamaster> slashdot had an artical on a cheap nvidia card that almost outpreformed the expensive ones
20:12 <@sasquatc4> yea, it was like the 8800 or somethin
20:12 <@someninjamaster> http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/29/1541253
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20:13 <@ShadowHntr> Radeon X800http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131007R
20:13 <+coil> wow, i drove my brothers car
20:13 <@ShadowHntr> ack
20:13 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131007R
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20:14 <+coil> then filled it up, and checked the oil...there wasn't any oil on the dipstick
20:14 <@someninjamaster> oops
20:14 <@timoguin> all i really need is enough to play around with compiz etc.
20:14 <@someninjamaster> cars really like to have oil
20:14 <+coil> i wonder how long he's been driving it like that
20:14 <+coil> i put two quarts in it
20:14 <+coil> and it got to the bottom of the dipstick...
20:14 <+coil> my parents are going to change the oil tomorrow
20:15 <@someninjamaster> change the oil
20:15 <@someninjamaster> there apparently isnt any
20:15 <@someninjamaster> im guessing this isnt a very new car
20:16 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103043
20:16 <@ShadowHntr> someninjamaster: thanks for reminding me to check my oil too
20:16 <@someninjamaster> and yall have reminded me that i need to go in for my 1000 mile checkup
20:16 <@ShadowHntr> yikes
20:17 <@ShadowHntr> do you like deliver pizzas or something? 1000 miles? do you drive *that* much?
20:17 <@ShadowHntr> or is it that new of a car... lol
20:17 <@someninjamaster> new car
20:17 <@ShadowHntr> i used to deliver pizzas
20:17 <@someninjamaster> and the check up is free
20:17 <@ShadowHntr> and i had to get an oil change about every 1500 miles
20:17 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh gotta love that warranty =)
20:17 <@someninjamaster> oh yeah
20:17 <@someninjamaster> im needing to get some stuff reconfigured on it as well
20:17 <@ShadowHntr> awesome
20:18 <@ShadowHntr> got the navigation system and everything too?
20:18 <@someninjamaster> no
20:18 <@ShadowHntr> all the bells and whistles?
20:18 <@ShadowHntr> what?
20:18 <@someninjamaster> thats on the next onw
20:18 <@ShadowHntr> you paid that much for a lexus and you didn't get that?
20:18 <@ShadowHntr> you at least get leather? ;)
20:18 <@someninjamaster> thats standard
20:18 <@ShadowHntr> oh cool
20:18 <@someninjamaster> the navigation is another 5 grand
20:19 <@ShadowHntr> damn they know how to make their money hehehe
20:19 <@someninjamaster> because its bundled in with like 12 other thing
20:19 <@someninjamaster> im getting the time the headlights stay on after you turn it off shortened
20:19 <@someninjamaster> and changeing the way the doors unlock
20:22 <@ShadowHntr> damn
20:22 <@ShadowHntr> i'm gonna go to kroger and pick up some things
20:22 <@ShadowHntr> bbiab
20:22 <@someninjamaster> cya
20:22 <@timoguin> i'm hungry but i don't feel like driving...
20:23 <@timoguin> pizza hut...
20:23 <@someninjamaster> ramen ftw
20:23 <@timoguin> i don't know if they deliver out here.
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20:23 <@timoguin> i haven't cooked in forever
20:23 <@timoguin> i was doing a lot of cooking when i first moved in.
20:23 <@timoguin> now i'm just fucking lazy.
20:23 <@someninjamaster> i love to cook
20:23 <@timoguin> or don't like grocery shopping
20:23 <@timoguin> i do too.
20:24 <@timoguin> i have issues with not cleaning after i cook
20:24 <@timoguin> so shit piles up fast
20:24 <@someninjamaster> haha
20:24 <@timoguin> and plus i just hate my kitchen
20:24 <@timoguin> no counter space or cabinet space
20:24 <@someninjamaster> a bad kitchen makes things difficult
20:25 <@timoguin> i probably have 1.5 sq feet of usable counter space
20:26 <@timoguin> "Currently, Mandriva Linux 2007, Fedora 7, Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn), and Gentoo have the ability to run AIGLX out of the box"
20:26 <@timoguin> how is gentoo ever "out of the box"?
20:26 <@someninjamaster> i would love to find an out of the box version of gentoo
20:30 <@Jagobah> wat
20:36 <@sdodson> timoguin: it's enabled with the default use flags?
20:36 <@timoguin> me shrugs
20:37 <@sdodson> you shrugs
20:37 <@timoguin> we shrugs
20:43 <@Evilpig> Mirage: ping
20:51 <@ShadowHntr> i must be the only one here who didn't think ubuntu was the best thing in linux since beer came in a can. :P
20:51 <@ShadowHntr> it's alright
20:51 <@ShadowHntr> i just like other ones better.
20:51 <@timoguin> fuck canned beer!
20:51 <@ShadowHntr> timoguin: it was a metaphor, mate
20:52 <@timoguin> well i don't like canned beer
20:52 <@ShadowHntr> damn freudian typing almost typed methaphor lol
20:52 <@timoguin> so your metaphor falls apart!
20:52 <@ShadowHntr> like a simile
20:52 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
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21:06 <@dc0de> ShadowHntr I don't think it's the best... I like debian... and ubuntu is a nice eye candy rich interface...
21:06 <@ShadowHntr> never liked debian
21:06 <@ShadowHntr> maybe debian followed a standard directory structure better than redhat or slack
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> but i preferred those two more.
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> i still do.
21:07 <@dc0de> ShadowHntr what do you like?
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> Redhat, Slack and now SuSE.
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> Slack was my first distro
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> then Redhat
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> i think i used Slack 4.2
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> i don't remember the exact version numbers...
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> but i do remember the kernel version
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> 2.0.35
21:08 <@ShadowHntr> just before v2.2 was released.
21:08 <@ShadowHntr> no
21:08 <@ShadowHntr> Slack v4.0
21:08 <@ShadowHntr> and Redhat 4.2
21:09 <@dc0de> yeah, I like the debian package manager better...
21:10 <@ShadowHntr> i prefer RPM
21:10 <@sasquatc4> yea, i started on slack3, but once i discovered the joy that is apt, there was no turning back
21:10 <@dc0de> yea, apt is a joy...
21:10 <@ShadowHntr> i didn't get to try yum until fedora
21:10 <@ShadowHntr> i may like apt better now that i've used pkg-get on solaris.
21:10 <@ShadowHntr> Yellowdog Updater, Modified
21:10 <@ShadowHntr> originally from Yellowdog Linux - PPC FTW :)
21:11 <@dc0de> MaxieZ introduced me to debian, and I haven't looked back.
21:11 <@timoguin> Portage ftw!
21:11 <@sdodson> who cares ftw
21:12 <@ShadowHntr> it's linux, that's what's important
21:12 <@ShadowHntr> but after linux i've been able to check out the more popular commercial unix systems
21:13 <@ShadowHntr> i like Solaris
21:13 <@ShadowHntr> i'd really like to try AIX on POWER.
21:13 <@ShadowHntr> POWER ftw :D
21:13 <@sdodson> you like silly things!
21:13 <@ShadowHntr> fuck off
21:13 <@ShadowHntr> you're saying the Cell sucks?
21:14 <@sdodson> Who knows.
21:14 <@ShadowHntr> the processor, not the PS3 derived from it
21:14 <@ShadowHntr> damn that was a large undertaking, Sony, Toshiba and IBM allying for it
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21:28 <@wontonjoe> bleh
21:28 <@wontonjoe> I feel sick
21:29 <@dc0de> wontonjoe why? how?
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21:36 <@ShadowHntr> wontonjoe: hope you don't get sick like i did last month
21:36 <@ShadowHntr> :P
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21:37  * ShadowHntr goes off to the kitchen :)
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21:51 <@Mirage> rmjackson: no offense, but fix your connection..the spam is irritating.
21:51 < rmjackson> Mirage: no problem with my connection, getting client setup again, should be good now
21:52 <@Mirage> ok.
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22:11 <@wontonjoe> woohoo
22:11 <@wontonjoe> i got food from the taco trailer/truck
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22:18 <@dc0de> wontonjoe the gut truck?
22:19 <@dc0de> the cockroach mobile?
22:19 <@wontonjoe> its great!
22:20 <@B3AST> thought that was Frosted Flakes
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22:24 < desertc_> Awesome time at Phreaknic.  Thanks!  Going to start watching the videos now of the couple presentations that I missed while talking with everyone.  Was really cool to meet your team.
22:27 < desertc_> lol - Jason Scott has eight trillion mega pixels images up of my ugly mug.
22:32 < desertc_> Whelps, thanks again.
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22:52 <@wontonjoe> time to put in more resumes
22:52 <@wontonjoe> i figure at ten a day
22:52 <@wontonjoe> something will bite
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23:04 <@sasquatc4> so bored
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23:11 <@Evilpig> Mirage: ping
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23:37 <@sasquatc4> wontonjoe: you could always try the devious technique, throw every keyword you can think of into a line near the top of the resume
23:37 <@sasquatc4> like one that seperates your name/address/etc, and just make it a really tiny font, so it appears to just be one thick black line
23:37 <@sasquatc4> that way you show up in every search they do
23:41 <@wontonjoe> lol
23:41 <@wontonjoe> nah that is a bit devious
23:47 <@juice> hi
23:48 <@wontonjoe> hiya juice
23:48 <@wontonjoe> how do i install shit in slackware!!!!
23:48 <@wontonjoe> im pulling my hair out over here
23:49 <@wontonjoe> theres no apt-get
23:49 <@wontonjoe> no pkg_add
23:49 <@wontonjoe> no ports
23:49 <@Evilpig> I'm blocking porn and crap at my office for fun
23:49 <@wontonjoe> woohoo
23:49 <@wontonjoe> evilpig, dont block 2girl1cup
23:49 <@Evilpig> replaced it all with the IE default "the page cannot be displayed" message
23:49 <@sdodson> pkg_install or something, there also a few package managers
23:49 < rmjackson> wontonjoe: check out slapt-get if you want some ind of package management
23:49 <@juice> wontonjoe,
23:49 <@wontonjoe> ya i saw slapt-get
23:50 <@juice> no don't use slapt-get
23:50 <@juice> unless you want a very unstable system
23:50 <@wontonjoe> oh ok
23:50 <@juice> slackpkg
23:50 <@wontonjoe> ah ok
23:50 <@juice> is the official one pat supports on the cd in extra
23:50 <@juice> also wontonjoe check out slackbuilds.org
23:50 <@wontonjoe> i installed the backtrack2 iso to my hard drive, since its pretty much already configured
23:51 <@juice> anyone who the guy on comedy central is?
23:51 <@juice> know who
23:52 <@wontonjoe> i got no cable at work
23:52 <@wontonjoe> sorry
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23:54 <@juice> freaking tvguide already has flipped over to the next hour for the guide
23:54 <@juice> everytime I hear a funny comedian I never know who it is
23:55 <@sdodson> John Caparulo according to the listings
23:56 <@sdodson> Ralphie May rather
23:56 <@sdodson> timewarner listings suck
23:59 <@juice> hmm cool
23:59 <@juice> thanks sdodson
23:59 <@juice> yeah it was he just said that
23:59 <@juice> cool Ralphie May
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