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01:01 <+coil> damn, nothing like getting stoned then putting your laptop back together with extra screws left over..
01:02 <@Dagmar> Oh joy
01:02 <@Dagmar> Chicken Shits are on live tonight
01:46 <@Dagmar> Their new, large black man just dropped his cell phone and ran from the building
02:22 <@Dagmar> Awesome.
02:22 <@Dagmar> NotLarry managed to put his cell phone into the trash compactor outside
02:37 <@Dagmar> http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/evilfinder/ef.cgi?said=NotLarry
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04:51 <@Dagmar> http://www.superdickery.com/dick/84.html
04:51 <@Dagmar> For the destruction of childhood memories
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06:39 * dc0de is going to work
07:23 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:40 <@ladymerlin> whee
07:48 <@Shadow404> meow
07:51 <@Shadow404> damn cat is knudging me in face repeatedly cause she want to go outside
07:51 <@Shadow404> and i dont have time to watch her cause she learned how to jump over the fence in our yard and we think shes to young to venture yet
07:51 <@Shadow404> only 4 months
07:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Have you considered investing in a cat harness?
07:57 <@Corydon76-dig> It's quite effective if you want to limit the radius the cat travels
08:00 <@Dagmar> For a cat, it *must* be a harness.
08:00 <@Dagmar> A simple collar will only be effective if you hang the leash from a high tree branch, say 8 feet up for a 6 foot leash
08:01 <@brimstone> even then, got to make sure it's tight
08:03 <@Shadow404> thikning an electric cat fence
08:04 <@Shadow404> secured to a harness
08:04 <@Shadow404> if she was just a bit older i would let her go wonder free, i know age is no guarantee, but it would make us feel better
08:05 <@Shadow404> need to holder her and walk to a busy road to see if she is afraid of cars
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08:15 <@ShadowHntr> morning
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08:51 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
08:51 <@Dolemite> w00f
08:51 * ladymerlin waves
08:51 <@SkyDog_> W00f!
08:57 < dc0de> mr0nin....
08:59 <@SkyDog_> Pretty much.
09:05 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Did you decide on what variation to your cider recipe will be next?
09:06 <@SkyDog_> I found the one that you sent me with the brown sugar.
09:06 <@SkyDog_> I think I will do that one, with some vanilla, and the cinnamon.
09:06 <@Dolemite> Did you read more of the text afterwards?
09:06 <@Dolemite> I think the guy said that it didn't turn out as well as he thought that it would
09:07 <@Dolemite> I don't think brown sugar is a good addition to cider, but the cinnamon and vanilla are
09:07 <@Dolemite> It could be his yeast that he used, though
09:07 <@SkyDog_> This was one you relayed thru irc,and it was pretty short.
09:07 <@SkyDog_> I forget what yeast I bought..
09:07 <@Dolemite> montrachet for the first batch
09:07 <@SkyDog_> lemme look.
09:09 <@Dolemite> You might also want to check out some of the local brew club sites
09:09 <@SkyDog_> Nottingham.
09:10 <@Dolemite> http://www.msbrewcrew.org is one
09:10 <@Dolemite> Nottingham is an ale yeast. It's what I used for the pumpkin ale, but I don't think that'd be as good for cider
09:10 < dc0de> SkyDog_ how about something very Xmas'y?
09:11 <@Dolemite> I'm pretty sure that I read after I sent you that recipe that the yeast made the batch develop some really off tastes
09:11 <@SkyDog_> That was what was listed for the brown sugar one. i guess I need to go back to the drawing board.
09:11 < dc0de> like a hearty mead?
09:11 <@nachoguy> mead? did someone say mead?
09:11 <@SkyDog_> well, at this point, I have just been interested in cider.
09:11 <@nachoguy> now I REALLY need a home breing kit
09:11 <@SkyDog_> I think the only thing I need for beer is a really good boiling pot.
09:11 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Seriously, just go with the original recipe, but add in cinnamon and vanilla for this batch. Next batch, if you like the results, use a sweet meade yeast in the cider.
09:12 <@nachoguy> btw: I cas has houz
09:12 <@Dolemite> I've read that the sweet meade yeast works well, too, but it won't be quite as alcoholic, so you may have to experiment and drop the amount of sugar.
09:12 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : It really doesn't take up much room...
09:13 < dc0de> Dolemite are there any no-sugar recipes?
09:13 <@SkyDog_> The Original with the montrachet?
09:13 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, I know, I think now that I have a basement, I'll be getting a setup when I get settled
09:14 <@SkyDog_> Jebus. It will take 3 hours to pull this image... It's off a 4200 RPM laptop drive. Sigh.
09:14 <@nachoguy> dc0de, most likely not, but if beer is anything like wine, you can let it ferment longer and you'll end up with a much more alcoolic, much less sugary brew
09:14 <@nachoguy> alcoholic
09:15 <@Dolemite> dc0de : No, because yeast processes the sugar to create alcohol
09:16 <@Dolemite> dc0de : However, the Apfelwein recipe converts so much sugar that you end up with an extremely low final gravity
09:17 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Most yeasts will die off in too much alcohol.
09:17 <@Dolemite> That's why the apfelwein uses montrachet (champagne) yeast, because it's one of the heartier strains
09:18 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Yes, I recommend that you stick exactly to the original recipe, except that you add in the cinnamon and vanilla for this batch. See how that comes out and if you like the changes, either add more vanilla or cinnamon; or change the yeast to the sweet meade at that point.
09:19 <@Dolemite> Now this is an example of someone going ALL OUT
09:19 <@Dolemite> http://www.purplegrinwinery.com/winecave.html
09:20 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Cool.
09:20 <@Dolemite> All Season's also has a book that is just on Cider
09:20 <@Dolemite> you can pick one up and try some of the recipes from it
09:21 <@Dolemite> Just remember that they're not in Green Hills, anymore
09:21 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, i need to hit the new location.
09:22 <@Dolemite> this weekend I'll move the english brown ale into secondary and then brew some pumpkin ale for the primary
09:23 <@SkyDog_> coolness. that stuff rocks.
09:24 <@Dolemite> I just hate that it'll be Thanksgiving before I can drink it :P
09:25 <@Dolemite> Well, not quite, but close
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09:32 <@baudburn> wow
09:32 <@baudburn> i learned soemthing new today
09:32 <@Dolemite> what's that?
09:32 <@Dolemite> You don't look good in a speedo?
09:33 <@baudburn> that the slayer albumn "Reign in Blood" has a song wich i always thought was the title track.. turns out its really "Raining blood" on the album "Reign in Blood"
09:34 <@Dolemite> And you listen to Slayer because you lost a bet?
09:34 <@brimstone> he tripped
09:35 <@baudburn> Dolemite: no?
09:35 <@baudburn> I'm actually listening to In Flames
09:35 <@ware> hehehe
09:35 <@ware> muwahtatateetee hehehohoho
09:35 <+coil> stfu ware
09:36 <@Dolemite> I agree with coil
09:36 <@Dolemite> Oddly enough
09:36 <@ware> show up late and sweet talk the boss, he goes from hard ass to smiling and said 'well put, very well put'
09:36 <+coil> wow
09:36 <@ware> i think im just an amazingly versed bullshitter
09:36 <@baudburn> ware: you're a tard.. you don't pull that stuff when you're new.
09:36 <@Dolemite> well put is manager speak for "I'm documenting this and the next time that he does it, he's fired"
09:36 <@ware> i know :( im disappointed with myself
09:37 <@ware> there shouldnt be a next time
09:37 <@ware> at least not for awhile *shrug*
09:37 <@Dolemite> there shouldn't have been a first time, but it happened
09:39 <@baudburn> indeed... dude, get yo shit together.
09:39 <@ware> WELL CASE IN POINT, I THINK THEY LIKE ME AND THEY ARE COOL
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09:40 <@baudburn> ware: business is not like regular life. they can like you.. and if you're not performing, you'll be the first cut.
09:40 <@baudburn> money > friendship in busness.
09:41 <@ware> i got another phone # last night
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09:44 <@Pr0nStrGeek> ware: did you have to glean it off his business card? or did he give it up willingly?
09:44 <@Evilpig> sdodson: got another one
09:45 <@Evilpig> Subject: Have a Happy Hallloween everyone
09:45 <@Evilpig> I am sending this to everyone. It is so cute. http://82.33.170.3/
09:45 <@baudburn> wtf?
09:45 * baudburn does not go
09:45 <@ware> Pr0nStrGeek: had to hold em down and take it out of his phone
09:45 <@Evilpig> baudburn: a worm was sending around halloween spam last night
09:46 <@Evilpig> several of us got versions of it. he was looking to see if all the exe's were the same or something
09:46 <@Dolemite> ware : For what reason are you collecting these phone numbers?
09:46 <@baudburn> awesome.
09:47 <@Evilpig> and as far as being late to work. I have taken all kinds of shit this morning for coming in at 9:30
09:47 <+coil> shit this hits tihs
09:48 <@baudburn> Evilpig: i'm surprised they care for you.
09:48 <@Evilpig> they just tolerate me since I do all the real work around here
09:49 <@ware> Dolemite: oppourtuinity to see these gals naked. quantity, not quality
09:54 <@baudburn> ware: do not fuck the vapid.
09:54 * baudburn waits for ware to go to a dictionary
09:54 <@Evilpig> baudburn: look who you are addressing
09:55 <@Evilpig> that's like telling skydog not to eat a donut
09:55 <@baudburn> heh
09:58 <@Evilpig> it's more fun to make skydog jokes when he's around to defend himself. or add to the fun
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10:01 <@Shadow_Phone> omg im so sick of my boss, expects me to handle all his workflow when i already have stacks of scheduled maintnence phone calls to make so he can leave early
10:01 <@Shadow_Phone> got an upset email this morning asking why only why a few items were done.
10:02 <@ware> baudburn: nicely, i like that
10:02 <@Shadow_Phone> im not staying 2 hour later than my 10 hour shift so i can finish his issues, illw ork what i can and leave it at that
10:04 * baudburn high fives ware
10:04 <@Shadow_Phone> how can i point out im not staying until 10pm to finish his work, which is not even urgent, due next week, properly, hmm
10:04 <@baudburn> ware: call them vapid.. they'll probably think it's a compliment.
10:05 <@brimstone> Shadow_Phone, probably?
10:05 <@Shadow_Phone> Dear. Asswipe, I hope you die in a fire. Quite frankly i could care les if you work gets done or not, i will do what i can during my shift and you should be happy with that.
10:05 <@Shadow_Phone> baudburn: how should i properly reply to his email
10:05 <@rhia> Shadow_Phone: ask him to please help you prioritize your workload, including his extra shit - and if he chooses his, get it in writing
10:06 <@Shadow_Phone> not probably
10:06 <@baudburn> Shadow_Phone: i think you summed it up quite nicely :)
10:06 <@baudburn> heh
10:06 <@Shadow_Phone> rhia: good idea
10:06 <@baudburn> Shadow_Phone: seriously, though, i'd lay it out for him
10:06 <@baudburn> probabyl better done in person than via email
10:07 <@baudburn> but jsut say "The reason this hasn't been done is because i spend 3 hours yesterday doing xxx like you asked me to.. I'm trying to be a team player, but i don't feel like you're backing me up"
10:07 <@baudburn> or some such bullshit
10:08 * baudburn puts on some helloween to celebrate
10:08 <@Evilpig> baudburn: email leaves a nice trail just in case someone raises a stink to HR later
10:09 <@baudburn> Evilpig: yes, thats true.
10:09 <@Dolemite> I R 2 bizzy on IRC to do yer werkz. Kthnxbye
10:09 <@baudburn> Evilpig: but face 2 face is more effective at sayiign "knock it the fuck off"
10:10 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, just sent email back saying my workload last night was focused on urgent issues, i sent him an update on what i got done, and well laid it out like that
10:10 <@baudburn> good enough
10:12 <@ware> http://dumb.ni.gs/~w/ware.halloween.jpg
10:12 <@ware> for anyone that missed that last night
10:13 <@wizardPC> wow so our documentation says that MSXML6.0 SP2 is required for our software to work properly....
10:13 <@wizardPC> but there is no SP2 for MSXML 6
10:14 <@Dolemite>
10:14 <@Dolemite> Or, alternatively...
10:14 <@Dolemite>
10:14 <@Dolemite>
10:14 <@Dolemite>
10:14 <@Dolemite>
10:15 <@ware> falloutof(chair); ?>
10:16 <@wizardPC> Somehow I got asked to help troubleshoot someone's install, even though I'm not in support and have no idea about the inner-workings of this part of the software
10:16 <@wizardPC> but I sure as shit can RTFM
10:22 <@NotLarry> ware: Thats some scary shit, who's the chick with the black makeup?
10:24 <@Dolemite> He was trolling for tweaker treaters last night
10:25 <@ShadowHntr> not valid XHTML
10:25 <@ShadowHntr> :)
10:28 <@Evilpig> Dolemite's was valid. needs a descripter but otherwise valid
10:29 <@ShadowHntr> sorry my page cut off at the start of the tag is
10:30 <@ShadowHntr> :)
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10:30 <@Evilpig> I can't quit yawning
10:38 * ware gleeks on Evilpig
10:38 <@ware> NotLarry: it was that gal that you ate out at phreaknic
10:39 <@Dolemite> Can't be, we cremated the body
10:41 <@Evilpig> I wonder if the walmart here will get any of those $200 linux boxes
10:41 <@Dagmar> It has a VIA chip in it
10:41 <@Dagmar> You don't want ti
10:41 <@ShadowHntr> what's wrong with VIA
10:41 <@ShadowHntr> they're not for gaming, true
10:41 <@Evilpig> it's twice the speed of my current web server.
10:41 <@ShadowHntr> but they're not designed for that
10:42 <@Dagmar> Dude, they just suck
10:42 <@ShadowHntr> Dagmar : great idea, use a nuclear weapon to crack a walnut.
10:43 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: I am not thinking of using it as a desktop. I have a good one of those already. but my linux box is only a P3 800. and is really showing its age now
10:43 <@Dagmar> You'd probably be better off maxing the RAM on that then
10:44 <@Dagmar> Only 512Mb RAM for one thing, C7-D has next to no cache, and as per usual, they scrimped on it, so it's not likely to be able to keep up with a 900Mhz 686
10:45 <@Evilpig> http://blueboy.wilpig.org/phpsysinfo/
10:45 <@Evilpig> I'd like to compare it if nothing else
10:46 <@Dagmar> Read about halfway down here http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=77144&highlight_key=y&keyword1=c7-d
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10:48 <@Evilpig> same bogomips. that's disgusting
10:48 <@Dagmar> I'm not just whistling dixie about those
10:49 <@Dagmar> there's a reason we had to put all kinds of checks in the Dropline installer to forbid people using about half of the earlier VIA CPUs
10:49 <@Dagmar> People have gotten spoiled with AMD and Intel keeping each other in check for so long.
10:49 <@Dagmar> They have forgotten the lessons taught us by Cyrix
10:49 <@Evilpig> eww cyrix
10:50 <@Evilpig> I installed some of those back int he day
10:50 <@Evilpig> what I shoudl do is get my old computer back from who I loaned it to. and move all my shit to it. it was a 1.8 or 2Ghz p4
10:51 <@Dagmar> Well, guess what the ugly secret is
10:51 <@Dagmar> VIA is Cyrix
10:51 <@Dagmar> NatSemi sold them to VIA some time ago
10:51 <@Dagmar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrix
10:58 <@baudburn> i had a cyrix chip waay back when
10:58 <@brimstone> bogomips?
10:59 <@Evilpig> BogoMips (from "bogus" and MIPS) is an unscientific measurement of CPU speed made by the Linux kernel when it boots, to calibrate an internal busy-loop. An oft-quoted definition of the term is "the number of million times per second a processor can do absolutely nothing."
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11:00 <@brimstone> BogoMips can be used to see whether it is in the proper range for the particular processor, its clock frequency, and the potentially present CPU cache. It is not usable for performance comparison between different CPUs.
11:02 <@nachoguy> I've got a couple of dual core boxes and the bogomips aren't equal between cores
11:12 <@ware> ~google for launchy
11:12 <+MxZBot> Google says launchy is at http://sourceforge.net/projects/launchy or http://www.launchy.net/
11:14 <@Evilpig> @#!^%!#!
11:14 <@Evilpig> [11:13] Mary: WilburCan't get this Thanksgiving .mid to play in school menu web page.You're so good at this. It's in N drive -under Novonex, suitespot, docs, breakfast4
11:14 <@Evilpig> [11:14] Wilpig: give me a few minutes and I will try to look at it. i really don't like autoplaying midi files though. nasty habit
11:16 <@Evilpig> http://www.appscout.com/images/spam%20boy.jpg <-- logo for PN next year.
11:18 <@ShadowHntr> sfw?
11:19 <@Evilpig> did I put NSFW on it?
11:19 <@ShadowHntr> that's why i asked
11:19 <@ShadowHntr> lol
11:20 <@ladymerlin> whee
11:20 <@ShadowHntr> nya nya nya nya nya
11:21 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euZ0j7vtKEQ
11:22 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: You shouldn't be streaming video at work...
11:22 <@SkyDog_> You'll get in trouble!
11:22 <@ShadowHntr> we're playing musical cubicles.
11:22 <@ShadowHntr> :P
11:23 <@SkyDog_> AH. Like they can't tell by MAC address.
11:23 <@ShadowHntr> *shrug*
11:23 <@ladymerlin> ShadowHntr: dont stream anything right now
11:24 <@ladymerlin> i can tell you that you will get in toruble
11:26 <@SkyDog_> Told you.
11:26 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_ : did it sound like i was arguing?
11:26 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: Yes.
11:29 * Evilpig is away: Lunch at microwave mexican
11:29 * someninjamaster Debates on Dragging his ass out of bed
11:30 <@someninjamaster> damn autocomplete
11:30 <@someninjamaster> i might just keep on working via remote
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11:32 <@someninjamaster> sup fed
11:32 <@Fed615> morning
11:34 <@poiupoiu> what is all goin on in here today?
11:43 <@Evilpig> really considering upgrading the firewall at my office today. but the boss is already in a shit mood they are telling me
11:49 <@nachoguy> what is the different between ([a-z0-9]*) and ([a-z0-9_]+) as far as what they will match
11:49 <@poiupoiu> even though it'll be better, faster, stronger, etc?
11:50 <@nachoguy> it's the 6 million dollar firewall man
11:50 <@Evilpig> nah. just time for it to be done. it's running redhat 9 still
11:51 <@Mirage> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT7uW5K5i-g
11:52 <@Dagmar> nachoguy: + matches 1 or more. * matches 0 or more
11:53 <@Dagmar> ...and one of your regexps has an underscore in the match list, the other one doesn't.
11:53 <@Dagmar> I figure that part is a typo
11:59 <@nachoguy> the underscore was done by someone I don't trust
11:59 <@nachoguy> I better check to see if he's fucking with the input data
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12:28 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: Did you go to rhps?
12:33 <@Evilpig> yes. :( but they were at capacity and I couldn't get in
12:41 <@Dolemite> gah! According to thesuperficial.com, Lance Armstrong was making out with Ashley Olsen this week. The apocalypse is coming!
12:45 <@Evilpig> I'd do it
12:45 <@Dolemite> Evilpig is into anorexic muppets
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12:47 <@Corydon76-vcch> Why do we care who celebrities are fucking?
12:48 <@Evilpig> cause we're next in line?
12:51 <@rhia> being fucked by your job isn't quite the same
12:59 <@Corydon76-vcch> corporate buttsecks
13:11 <@rattle> Next week, the Industrial Memetics crew does Vegas. Muhaha.
13:17 <@ShadowHntr> lucky bastard ;)
13:36 <@rattle> Neoteric and I are going to be spending the first night we are in town at the Tropicana, and the rest of the week at the Riveria. The same two hotels from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.. :)
13:36 <@Corydon76-vcch> So when's your commitment ceremony?
13:36 * Corydon76-vcch ducks
13:38 <@Evilpig> why are you ducking from that one.
13:38 <@rattle> No commitment ceremony. He will be playing the role of my attorney.
13:42 <@Evilpig> rattle gets to be the unwieldy secretary and Neoteric will be the disciplining attorney.
13:42 <@critch> damn, where is the brain bleach
13:42 <@Evilpig> all out. just let that one sink in and stew for a while
13:44 <@critch> Oddly enough, I could see rattle as the cutter from the stories I have heard. But Neoteric only seems to discipline by saying you suck.
13:45 <@Evilpig> critch that just made a whole other bad scene in my head with Neoteric just saying "you suck" over and over
13:46 <@Shadow_Phone> no, his mom does the sucking
13:47 <@Evilpig> Shadow_Phone: you didn't read close enough or my brain is just off. it would be Neoteric talking to rattle.... or more looking down at rattle
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13:48 <@critch> I am soo glad I didn't think that hard on the image earlier, but thank you for making me think about it again.... NOT
13:48 <@Shadow_Phone> na, i was just making the point, that neotrics mom should be doing the sucking
13:48 <@Shadow_Phone> hot milf and all
13:49 <@Shadow_Phone> of course im joining the convo late and im to arsed to scroll up atm
13:49 <@Shadow_Phone> so i may be tottaly off base but i stand by my statement
13:50 <@Evilpig> Shadow_Phone: you missed the humor completely
13:54 <@Shadow_Phone> well, like i said, was just catching this part of the convo
13:54 <@Shadow_Phone> wait, you know what humor? thats news to me
13:58 <+coil> www.2girls1cup.com
14:00 <@Shadow_Phone> nice, had to vnc to see that
14:01 <+coil> wtf have you not seen that before?
14:01 <@Shadow_Phone> na, havent ever had a chance to when that link was posted
14:01 <@Shadow_Phone> i work at a busy noc, go figure
14:02 <+coil> hhahaha
14:05 <@Evilpig> can't be that busy if you are on irc
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14:07 <@Shadow_Phone> it doesnt take that long to respond with a line or two, now does it?
14:07 <@Evilpig> yes it does
14:07 <@Evilpig> hours
14:07 <@Shadow_Phone> maybe for you, i usually have time for irc when im waiting for a telcon to start or waiting for stuff to reboot
14:08 <@Shadow_Phone> im starting to think i need to go back to tech support, i sit in front of a screen non-stop all shift
14:09 <@Shadow_Phone> and its nice to have down time in between tasks as a tech
14:13 <@Evilpig> yay for widescreen
14:14 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, im liking our new lcd
14:15 <@Shadow_Phone> got one of my lower end xp boxes sitting on the widescreen lcd tv downstairs for music player visualizations and the weather monitor
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14:35 <@Evilpig> yuck http://scottcentral.k12.mo.us/breakfast4.html
14:39 <@nachoguy> what, the animated graphics, or the food choices?
14:40 <@Evilpig> all of the above and the html to boot
14:43 <@Shadow_Phone> sfw?
14:43 <@ShadowHntr> Shadow_Phone : can a school website be nsfw?
14:43 <@ShadowHntr> i agree. terribly obnoxious.
14:44 <+coil> no
14:46 <@Evilpig> thank god firefox doesn't supprt bgsound
14:46 <@Shadow_Phone> coil: do you ever say anything else than no?
14:46 <+coil> yes
14:46 <@Evilpig> who didn't see that coming?
14:46 <@Shadow_Phone> wow, going on two words now, want to try fr 3?
14:47 <+coil> probably
14:47 <@Shadow_Phone> wow, 3 whole words, im proud of you
14:50 <@Neoteric> 1) you are all whores
14:51 <@Neoteric> 2) your (collective) mother(s)
14:51 <@Shadow_Phone> na, just your mom
14:51 * Shadow_Phone ducks
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14:51 <@Evilpig> Neoteric are you having a bad day? your secretary misbehaving?
14:52 <@Neoteric> Evilpig: by "secretary" do you mean my desk, and "misbehaving" do you mean slamming my penis in a drawer?
14:52 <@Evilpig> if that's your style g for it. can't say i'd try it
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14:53 <@Shadow_Phone> :(
14:53 <@Dagmar> THERE WILL BE NO NOVEMBER ELECTION
14:53 <@Dagmar> BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA
14:53 <@Shadow_Phone> why is that?
14:53 <@Evilpig> halloween was yesterday
14:53 <@Shadow_Phone> election for 615?
14:53 <@Neoteric> election will be awesome
14:53 <@Neoteric> they always are
14:54 <@Neoteric> hrm...
14:59 <@SkyDog_> Ok, I am ready to kill watchguard.
14:59 <@SkyDog_> I have a client that just got a new sony vaio. It's really nice.
14:59 <@SkyDog_> It has vista.
14:59 <@SkyDog_> Now it sucks.
14:59 <@SkyDog_> the VPN client for watchguard won't run on vista.
15:00 <@SkyDog_> I must kill them.
15:00 * Evilpig prays for SkyDog_ to join the deceased client in the grave
15:01 <@Neoteric> SkyDog: we blew ours out of the water by replacing it w/ a juniper security dev
15:01 <@Evilpig> shit. was that outloud?
15:01 <@GodFix> I hate Juniper
15:01 <@GodFix> at least for VPNs
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15:02 <@Corydon76-vcch> Is there a technology that IT workers know that they don't hate?
15:02 <@GodFix> Cisco?
15:02 <@Evilpig> firefox
15:02 <@Corydon76-vcch> GodFix: I swear at Cisco
15:03 <@Corydon76-vcch> mostly their licensing policies, not their software, but still
15:03 <@GodFix> compare an ASA to a Juniper netscreen... It's like Old Skool Pam Anderson and Britney Spears compared to Britney now
15:03 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: I like you until that comment.
15:03 <@Evilpig> the firefox? or the grave?
15:04 <@SkyDog_> I love firefox. Not ready for the grave.
15:04 <@rattle> Juniper Netscreens kick ass.
15:04 <@Evilpig> but you are old
15:04 <@GodFix> rattle: if you love them that much, I've got an NS25 I'll sell you
15:04 <@rattle> I do agree that the VPN stuff could use some serious work. They always push the SSL VPN boxen for that..
15:05 <@rattle> Hmm.. The NS25 might be too small for anything I'm doing right now..
15:05 <@rattle> But how much do you want to sell it for?
15:06 <@ShadowHntr> check point?
15:06 <@ShadowHntr> m0n0?
15:06 <@ShadowHntr> pfSense?
15:06 <@rattle> I've been using the SSG-550x models for my recent work.. Which I've been very happy with.
15:14 <@rattle> GodFix: Give me a quote on that NS25 though. I may have a use for it.
15:16 <@seeblind> GodFix: Isn't that NS25 still in production use?
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15:17 <@Shadow_Phone> wtf
15:18 <@Shadow_Phone> wtf, holy power outage
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15:48 <@GodFix> seeblind: Yes, but it was suppose to off more like "I've got some ocean front property in AZ"
15:49 <@GodFix> I love when ppl think they can send something to the recycle bin and empty it and think they are safe
15:53 <@Evilpig> you mean i'm not?
15:53 * Evilpig starts to format
16:06 <@Corydon76-vcch> GodFix: it's all relative...
16:06 <@Corydon76-vcch> The lengths you need to go to to destroy data is directly related to the importance thereof
16:07 <@GodFix> I have found a nice magnet is a good way to destroy data
16:07 <@Evilpig> when in doubt. burn it
16:07 <@Corydon76-vcch> Even shredding and incineration is not enough if someone was able to measure the fluctuations in magnetic fields around the hard drive while the data was being written in the first place
16:08 <@GodFix> Fire! Fire! Burn baby burn! Data inferno...
16:08 <@Corydon76-vcch> Yes, measuring magnetic field fluctuations is extreme, but so is incineration
16:08 <@critch> Corydon76-vcch: incineration should result in the metal no longer holding a magnetic field as it all reorganized while molten.
16:09 <@I-MOD> reading data as it's being written would require a ton of resolution on your sensor array
16:09 <@GodFix> douce it with liquid nitrogen... throw it on the floor... soak it in hydrochloric acid... then bake it in a kiln for 24-48 hours?
16:09 <@Corydon76-vcch> I-MOD: if what you're writing merits incineration, then someone somewhere is interested in the technology to read it while it's being written
16:10 <@I-MOD> true
16:10 <@critch> GodFix: LN2 would be good and making it hard to recover, HCL wouldn't affect a magnetic field. Same with the kiln if it doesn't reach temps to melt the mefium
16:11 <@I-MOD> and i'm sure it would be possible, but a sensor array with that kind of resolution would probably either be inside the computer, built in to all surrounding walls, or be very noticable
16:12 <@Corydon76-vcch> Point being, for unimportant data, dragging to the Recycle Bin and emptying it is fine for unimportant data
16:13 <@Corydon76-vcch> anyway
16:14 <@Corydon76-vcch> I'm happy I've never had to deal with important enough data that I've needed to consider incinerating the drive to dispose of it
16:14 <@GodFix> critch: mefium?
16:14 <@GodFix> you mean medium?
16:14 <@critch> yeah, fat fingers and lack of proof reading, medium
16:14 <@GodFix> it should melt it if it's the same type used in Japan to make samarui swords with. they melt steel and carbon in those together
16:15 <@GodFix> and leave it in there for 72 hours
16:15 <@critch> That isn't so much a kiln as it is a smelter
16:15 <@critch> most kilns you will get access for are used in glass shapping or pottery firing.
16:15 <@Corydon76-vcch> You mean iron and carbon
16:15 <@GodFix> well, they both involve fire
16:16 <@Corydon76-vcch> The product is steel
16:16 <@GodFix> I'm glad people pay attention in here
16:16 <@critch> not really, most kilns nowdays are electric to manage the temps
16:16 <@Evilpig> this channel has many one track minds
16:17 <@ware> HAI
16:17 <@ware> I HAZ MANY TRAX
16:17 * critch kicks ware in the trax
16:18 <@Evilpig> now why would you kick him in the arm? you know he just got a new job and is trying not to call attention to those
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16:19 <@Dagmar> wheee
16:19 <@ware> WE NEED MOAR CHAIRZ!
16:19 <@Evilpig> oh hell. Dagmar has been invaded by ladymerlin
16:19 <@Corydon76-vcch> Evilpig: that's an interesting visual
16:20 <@critch> yeah, I was trying not to dwell on that image
16:21 <@ware> asdf
16:22 <@GodFix> anyone want a Polycom V700 IP Video Conf system? Retail is $3K
16:22 <@brimstone> i'll take it
16:22 <@Evilpig> whats this look like? home shopping channel?
16:23 <@Corydon76-vcch> GodFix: sure
16:24 <@Corydon76-vcch> GodFix: I'll come pick it up, even
16:26 <@ladymerlin> whee
16:27 <@ware> WUH-HEEEEE
16:27 * Corydon76-vcch smacks ware
16:27 <@ware> how are you Corydon76-vcch
16:27 <@Evilpig> oh damn....
16:28 <@Evilpig> I just had this image of corydon and wave acting out the gimp scene in pulp fiction
16:28 <@GodFix> http://www.polycom.com/usa/en/products/video/small_medium_conference_room/v700.html
16:28 <@Evilpig> wave /ware
16:29 <@Corydon76-vcch> Evilpig: you see me as Bruce Willis?
16:29 <@Evilpig> more the shop keeper and ware as the gimp
16:30 <@ware> from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319517 "If you click Yes or No, Outlook 2002 starts. The next time that you start Outlook 2002, you do not receive the error message, but you do receive the error message the next time that you start Outlook 2002 after that."
16:30 <@ware> quite confizzlin imo
16:34 <@seeblind> GodFix: Save that for HC, man. We will gladly use it.
16:42 <@GodFix> maybe SD can pick it up tonight
16:43 <@Corydon76-vcch> GodFix: where do you need it picked up from?
16:44 <@ware> oh snap bitches!
16:44 <@ware> ~minilink http://www.shrumrealestate.com/blog/
16:44 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/shrumrealestate.com/ndoZZ
16:44 <@Evilpig> oh that just made that url SOOOOOO much shorter
16:48 <@seeblind> GodFix: who is SD?
16:49 <@Evilpig> scott dodson. grats on that
16:49 <@GodFix> SkyDog
16:50 <@seeblind> If you have already gotten the "fallen of the truck" approval.
16:53 <@Corydon76-vcch> GodFix: you realize I'm in on HC, as well, right?
16:54 <@GodFix> Corydon: Nope. The only 2 that I've known as being in on it is SkyDog and seeblind
16:54 <@GodFix> just saying those are the only 2 that I have been aware of
16:54 <@ladymerlin> and me
16:54 <@GodFix> oh yes, ladymerlin and SkyDog go hand in hand
16:54 <@Evilpig> hahah someone will be killed for that
16:54 <@Corydon76-vcch> So others can come pick up stuff...
16:54 <@ladymerlin> lol
16:55 <@GodFix> for security reasons, if SkyDog or seeblind aren't with you...
16:55 <@GodFix> NM, you'll like having that done
16:55 <@Corydon76-vcch> woohoo
16:55 <@GodFix> but SkyDog or seeblind must be present to pickup donations
16:56 <@Corydon76-vcch> How so?
16:56 <@GodFix> keeps it from looking like some kind of shady operation
16:56 <@ladymerlin> the company knows them
16:56 <@Evilpig> some people jare just retarded
16:56 <@Corydon76-vcch> Ah
16:56 <@GodFix> mainly what ladymerlin said
16:57 <@ware> hai im hc too
16:57 <@ware> hacker child
16:57 <@Corydon76-vcch> ladymerlin: you can warn SkyDog... Howard is coming to the mtg tomorrow to discuss HC with you
16:57 <@ware> hrandy mcrandy pants
16:57 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: and I are working with godfix's company
16:57 <@ladymerlin> k
16:57 <@Corydon76-vcch> s/you/y'all/
16:58 <@GodFix> how many ppl in here are involved in HC?
16:58 <@Evilpig> i'm not coming to the meeting.
16:58 <@seeblind> This makes the donation process easier
16:58 <@Corydon76-vcch> GodFix: hopefully at least 15 of us
16:58 <@Evilpig> although if I were in hte office tomorrow it could happen. but highly unlikely
16:59 <@seeblind> GodFix: None for now. SkyDog_ and I are still putting it together. Once we get the structure there are 15+ people that we will be signing up.
16:59 <@Corydon76-vcch> seeblind: organization done yet?
16:59 <@GodFix> ok, so 15 definately interested ppl
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17:00 <@seeblind> SkyDog and I were supposed to meet today to finalize some things but he got busy with clients. Soon.
17:00 <@GodFix> am I included in that 15?
17:00 <@Corydon76-vcch> GodFix: that's why it's 15+
17:00 <@seeblind> GodFix: you got the money for dues?
17:01 <@GodFix> depends on the dues levels
17:02 <@seeblind> Due levels depend on how many we can sign up to start. Once we get some things finalize we will make anouncements about dues and all
17:02 <@seeblind> Corydon76-vcch: Is Howard going to want some space?
17:03 <@GodFix> if I got paid according to the work I do, then I'd have top level dues
17:03 <@Corydon76-vcch> seeblind: probably, along the same lines as Basesys
17:03 <@GodFix> easily
17:04 <@seeblind> Corydon76-vcch: is Basesys, critch and crew?
17:04 <@Corydon76-vcch> seeblind: yes
17:05 <@wizardPC> wait so now we might be sharing space with 2 comanies?
17:05 <@critch> Yep we are Basesys
17:05 <@seeblind> Cool. They are very interested and it will help make sure the situation is good for all.
17:05 <@Corydon76-vcch> wizardPC: more companies means bigger space
17:06 <@critch> wizardPC: Well, the benefit is the companies pay the higher office space fees, and we as members don't have to pay so much for the rest of the space
17:06 <@wizardPC> and a "too many chiefs" situation down the road
17:06 <@Corydon76-vcch> wizardPC: HC is still overall in charge
17:06 <@critch> umm, no. I do not expect the companies to have much say at all on what goes on in the back.
17:06 <@seeblind> wizardPC: Skydog and I are working on the arrangements to that doesn't happen.
17:06 <@Corydon76-vcch> The companies are leasing space from the HC
17:06 <@wizardPC> "$company cant have you doing $project here because they dont like it"
17:07 <@wizardPC> ah okay, I feel better then
17:07 <@critch> wizardPC: how does gun purchases work when at a auction?
17:07 <@wizardPC> you mean like at gunbroker, or in real life?
17:08 <@Corydon76-vcch> In fact, the addition of VCCH is likely to make it such that members get phone numbers on a PRI to play with
17:08 <@critch> wizardPC: IRL, personal property auction
17:09 <@GodFix> so where is the HC space going to be?
17:09 <@wizardPC> I dont *think* you'd have to go through an FFL, but I'm not sure. the auctioneer would know better
17:10 <@critch> That is what I expected. I have a bit of time to get in contact with him. Saw a old bolt action that might be nice, plus a MDL 59/66 Yugo
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17:10 <@Corydon76-vcch> GodFix: I think all the spaces we've looked at so far, we've already outgrown with the current interest
17:10 <@seeblind> HC is still looking for space. We have to get word from VCCH, if they are in or out, then we will be guage space requirements, and finalize space.
17:13 <@critch> wizardPC: why would a rifle with 7.62x54R be considered a carbine? I thought a carbine was a rifle that shot basically a pistol round.
17:13 <@wizardPC> no, it has to do with length
17:15 <@wizardPC> for example, my M4 is really a carbine because it is shorter than a normal AR
17:18 <@wizardPC> carbines are historically associated with the Cavalry, but more recently with Paratroopers due to the compactness. They basically take a normal rifle, shorten the barrel, shorten the stock, and then you get a carbine
17:18 <@critch> hmm, a nagant carbine is only 3 cm shorter than the first versions
17:19 <@wizardPC> well, it's shorter! :D
17:19 <@critch> yeah, almost all out of the barrel too.
17:19 <@wizardPC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbine
17:20 <@Shadow_Phone> im getting closer and closer to sending that dear. shithead letter
17:21 <@critch> I'm out of here
17:22 <@wizardPC> Shadow_Phone, just try to make sure you can get another job quickly
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17:22 <@Corydon76-vcch> Shadow_Phone: don't be a ware
17:22 <@wizardPC> be aware, not a ware
17:22 <@seeblind> wizardPC: in a private auction do you need to provide any personal information besides payment?
17:23 * someninjamaster yawns
17:23 <@someninjamaster> afternoon all
17:24 <@wizardPC> I dont know about auctions, because I've never been to one. BUT, if you wanted to buy a pistol from me, then thereisnt a law requiring me to document anything
17:24 <@someninjamaster> in fact all you have to be is 18
17:25 <@someninjamaster> most of the gun laws only apply to dealers
17:25 <@wizardPC> If I had an FFL (Federal Firearms License, ie a licensed gun dealer) then I would have to fill out a bajillion documents and run a background check
17:25 <@seeblind> Personal sales are not documented at all? Humph. So I could buy a pistol from you after you had bought one new and get a new pistol. Nice.
17:25 <@someninjamaster> no
17:26 <@someninjamaster> thats techincally a straw sale isnt it
17:26 <@wizardPC> well...
17:26 <@wizardPC> I can't go buy a pistol from a dealer with the intent of reselling it
17:26 <@wizardPC> intent is key, though
17:26 <@Corydon76-vcch> And each additional sale requires payment of sales tax
17:27 <@Corydon76-vcch> They can get you on tax evasion, even if they can't prove intent to resell
17:27 <@GodFix> yeah, but if I had 100pounds of weed on me and got arrested, they'd say I had the intent to sell, even if my intent was to smoke it all
17:27 <@wizardPC> just like selling your bike on craigslist requires you to pay sales tax
17:27 <@seeblind> Do you know TN law? What does a gun dealer have to collect on a sale, in regards to personal info?
17:28 <@someninjamaster> its a single form
17:28 <@wizardPC> federal law governs all that stuff
17:28 <@Corydon76-vcch> You're technically required to pay sales tax, no matter where it's sold... it's just largely ignored...
17:28 <@someninjamaster> along with a form with finger prints
17:29 <@seeblind> I thought finger prints were for carry permit. Not for ownership
17:29 <@someninjamaster> they only need thumb prints for purchase
17:29 <@wizardPC> you can fake ID, but you can't fake your prints
17:29 <@Shadow_Phone> haha, boss took one look at me on the phone, and he decided to hand off his stuff to someone else for the night
17:29 <@someninjamaster> they need all 10 fingers for permits and class 3 purchases
17:30 <@someninjamaster> but class 3 is a whole diffrent deal
17:30 <@wizardPC> The ATF requires that form to be kept on file for 20 years, but none of the information is stored in a central database, which is a common misconception
17:30 <@Shadow_Phone> someninjamaster: just burn your prints off after you give your prints
17:30 <@someninjamaster> yeah
17:30 <@wizardPC> or before, if you;re like me and have your prints on file already :D
17:31 <@Corydon76-vcch> Or you could enter the store with latex reprints on your fingertips
17:31 <@Corydon76-vcch> I'm sure they'd love Elvis Presley back from the dead and buying firearms
17:31 <@Shadow_Phone> haha
17:31 <@GodFix> what if an amputee wearing a prosthetic went to buy a hand gun?
17:31 <@wizardPC> i doubt you could get away with that
17:32 <@someninjamaster> they still have to have one good hand
17:32 <@GodFix> why?
17:32 <@Corydon76-vcch> wizardPC: alternative is just made up fingerprints... not on file is also reasonable
17:32 <@someninjamaster> to work the gun
17:32 <@wizardPC> because the ATF says so
17:32 <@GodFix> wouldn't that be discriminating?
17:32 <@GodFix> you can use a presthetic to fire a hand gun
17:32 <@someninjamaster> i would be inpressed to see that
17:32 <@GodFix> i bet it can be done
17:33 <@someninjamaster> considering depending on the gun you have to have 2 hands
17:33 <@GodFix> next year's PN demo
17:33 <@GodFix> firing a desert eagle with a prosthetic hand
17:33 <@someninjamaster> that would really inpress me
17:33 <@someninjamaster> considering stephs nearly broke my wrist
17:33 <@Corydon76-vcch> I'd like to see you AIM with a prosthetic hand, let alone pull the trigger
17:33 <@someninjamaster> or rack the slide
17:34 <@someninjamaster> or load the clip
17:34 <@wizardPC> well you have to be careful about that, because sometimes the ATF sees that as making it into a class 3 weapon because you arent really hand-firing it, you are using a device to pull the trigger
17:34 * brimstone beboops to class
17:34 <@someninjamaster> wizardpc it dosent really matter
17:34 <@someninjamaster> remember the hand cranks for 10/22's
17:34 <@wizardPC> talk to frank about the rubber-band being considered a machine gun
17:35 <@wizardPC> you have to get a special letter from the ATF saying that it's leagal to use that hand crank.
17:35 <@someninjamaster> i did not know that
17:35 <@wizardPC> the letter is included by the manufacturer
17:35 <@someninjamaster> ah
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17:36 <@wizardPC> so you cant go and make your own hand crank, but you could buy that one
17:36 <@someninjamaster> seeblind
17:36 <@someninjamaster> http://www.atf.gov/forms/4473/
17:36 <@wizardPC> so before we wander too far off, is there anthing else you'd like to know?
17:37 <@seeblind> someninjamaster: Thanks, I am considering buying a pistol but didnt want to put out information I didn't have to.
17:37 <@someninjamaster> the basicly ask where you are born your address
17:37 <@someninjamaster> have you been convicted of any crimes
17:38 <@someninjamaster> are you a alien, are you mental
17:38 <@seeblind> Not that I am aware of.
17:38 <@wizardPC> well there is a gun show this weekend, and you can buy a pistol off of someone walking around there
17:38 <@GodFix> ware can't buy a gun then
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17:38 <@seeblind> me stwitchs head back and forth
17:38 * seeblind stwitchs head back and forth
17:38 <@ladymerlin> theres a gun show/
17:38 <@someninjamaster> what kind of pistol are you looking at seeblind
17:40 <@someninjamaster> wizardpc have you shot on the computer range at guns and leather
17:40 <@seeblind> Still on the fence. I have only shot a SIG 9mm. and a GLOCK .45. I like the glock but I would be more inclided to get a 9mm
17:40 <@SkyDog_> who has a mac with ichat available?
17:40 <@someninjamaster> me
17:40 <@SkyDog_> I need you to ichat with me.
17:40 <@someninjamaster> ok
17:40 * wizardPC is out for the day
17:40 <@someninjamaster> let me grab some headphones
17:40 <@Evilpig> someone start up the porn music
17:40 <@Evilpig> skydoggonewild.com
17:41 <@SkyDog_> Woohooo!
17:41 <@GodFix> I tink I want this... http://www.waltheramerica.com/wcsstore/Walther/upload/images/firearms/WAR22007.jpg
17:41 <@someninjamaster> seeblind are you wanting something for self defence
17:42 <@seeblind> Yes, but not a daily carry. Something that might be in the car or always in the house
17:45 <@someninjamaster> have you shot a gun much
17:50 <@seeblind> Just the two mentioned above for pistols. Shotguns and rifles in a former life.
17:50 <@someninjamaster> do you live in a house or apartment
17:51 <@seeblind> does it matter?
17:51 <@someninjamaster> my next advice is based on it
17:51 <@seeblind> house.
17:51 <@someninjamaster> i would stick with a shotgun
17:51 <@someninjamaster> thats what i use
17:52 <@someninjamaster> i have a bunch of pistols
17:52 <@someninjamaster> but for defence in the house i prefer a shotgun
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18:17 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, so they asked if someone from t1 can stay late and i get asked first, wtf
18:17 <@Shadow_Phone> so i said, sorry, stayed late the last night on a telecon (which was true, but only byu like 15 minutes)
18:18 <@Evilpig> low man on the totem pole
18:18 <@brimstone> i don't think you're giving all you can to the company Shadow_Phone
18:18 <@GodFix> I think Shadow_Phone is a slacker
18:19 <@GodFix> I come in 7-8 hours early for my shift
18:19 <@GodFix> and sometimes stay 6 hours later
18:19 <@brimstone> but do you work weekends?
18:19 <@GodFix> almost every Sat
18:20 <@Evilpig> hourly or salary?
18:20 <@Shadow_Phone> well, fuck it
18:20 <@GodFix> probably get 1 Sat off a month
18:20 <@GodFix> hourly
18:20 <@Evilpig> then you don't count
18:20 <@Shadow_Phone> im 3rd man from bottom of t1
18:20 <@Shadow_Phone> out of 8
18:20 <@Evilpig> when you are hourly and work extra you get more money. most salary people don't
18:21 <@GodFix> that's why I'm glad I'm hourly
18:21 <@GodFix> the salaried ppl here hate me for it
18:21 <@GodFix> they think i should be converted
18:21 <@GodFix> but I'm in an "entry level" position
18:23 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, im not entry level
18:23 <@Shadow_Phone> thats colo services
18:23 <@Evilpig> Shadow_Phone: you're still T1. might as well be
18:23 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, we only have 3 t2's
18:23 <@Shadow_Phone> most of the noc is t1
18:24 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, make that 4 t2's
18:25 <@Shadow_Phone> and aabout 15 t1's if you add both noc's east and west coast
18:26 <@GodFix> what's a T1 and a T2?
18:27 <@Corydon76-vcch> T1 is 24 DS0's, T2 is 8 T1's
18:27 <@Shadow_Phone> haha
18:28 <@Shadow_Phone> tiers 1 and 2 techs
18:28 <@Shadow_Phone> sigh
18:28 <@brimstone> and a T3 is 23 T1s!
18:29 <@Shadow_Phone> haha
18:29 <@Shadow_Phone> ok
18:29 <@Corydon76-vcch> No, a T3 is 28 T1's
18:29 <@sdodson> ferreal?
18:29 <@brimstone> eh, 3 looks like an 8 with this font
18:29 <@brimstone> i blame ABE
18:29 * sdodson multiplexes brimstone
18:29 * brimstone suppresses sdodson's silence
18:30 * Shadow_Phone locks both sdodson and brimstone in a rubber room to fight it out
18:30 <@brimstone> two man enter, one man leave
18:30 <@Shadow_Phone> two blue enter, one blue leave
18:30 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl
18:30 * Corydon76-vcch shackles Shadow_Phone to the wall
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18:31 <@Shadow_Phone> brb, teleconm
18:32 <@ladymerlin> whee
18:32 * Shadow_Phone points to room with flashing lights and sounds that says, "whee here"
18:33 * brimstone whees over there
18:33 * Shadow_Phone sends ware to clean up brimstone's mess
18:33 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, my favorite telecon, that gets cancelled via email as im dialing into the bridge, woot
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18:43 <@Shadow_Phone> ok gotta post a picture of this.
18:43 <@Shadow_Phone> gonna take a while to upload, but explains why i dont want to be on the ipadmin team
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19:39 <@wontonjoe> I hate......
19:39 <@wontonjoe> my
19:39 <@wontonjoe> job
19:40 <@someninjamaster> do you get a paycheck
19:41 <@wontonjoe> oh yes
19:41 <@wontonjoe> just enough to keep me here another week
19:41 <@someninjamaster> then at least you dont have to the worst job in the world
19:41 <@wontonjoe> no i do not, by far
19:42 <@wontonjoe> i deal with end users thats all i dislike,
19:43 <@someninjamaster> wonton i give weakly sessions on how to use a mouse
19:43 <@someninjamaster> well im going to swap os so i can play some cs
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19:56 <@wontonjoe> hehe
19:57 <@wontonjoe> how to use a mouse
20:04 <@GodFix> would anyone be interested in a geek girl swimsuit calendar?
20:04 <@SkyDog_> Heya GodFix.
20:04 <@ladymerlin> christ you sound like my coworker
20:05 <@GodFix> sup SkyDog?
20:05 <@SkyDog_> I am in Berry Hill at the moment. how late are you staying?
20:05 <@GodFix> depends, what time you gonna be here?
20:05 <@sdodson> he trying to make a calendar out of you?
20:05 <@ladymerlin> my coworker trys to make calanders out of everything and sell them
20:06 <@SkyDog_> well, it would probalby be 9:00 before I could get there.
20:06 <@ladymerlin> i had to tell him he could not show up to phreaknic witha nerd calander and expect it to sell
20:06 <@Evilpig> rotten vegitables?
20:06 <@SkyDog_> And of course, we only have to move the ntop laptop.
20:06 <@GodFix> I'll stay until you leave
20:06 <@SkyDog_> cool.
20:06 <@wontonjoe> hay whats wrong with a nerd calendar!
20:07 <@GodFix> I'm just rerouting internet traffic
20:07 <@GodFix> well, setting the foundation for it
20:07 <@ladymerlin> its a peice of shit
20:07 <@ladymerlin> anyone in here could make something better
20:07 <@Evilpig> I like the strawberry and grape ones.
20:07 <@GodFix> I'd like to see a real geek girl calendar
20:08 <@GodFix> not trampy geek girls
20:08 <@GodFix> aka scene whores
20:08 <@GodFix> wait, i only know 1 scene whore
20:08 <@sdodson> oh, don't know where to find those!
20:08 <@Evilpig> do you have names you'd like to say?
20:08 <@ladymerlin> yeha the only ones who woul dpose for something like that are scene whores
20:08 <@Evilpig> ladymerlin: keyword pose
20:08 <@Evilpig> if you happen to sit outside their houses in the bushes. they don't really have to "pose"
20:09 <@ladymerlin> lol
20:09 <@GodFix> I'm glad I was able to incite some chatter
20:10 <@seeblind> GodFix: Rerouting traffic
20:10 < dc0de> whee
20:10 <@GodFix> yes, changing which circuit internet traffic will use
20:11 <@GodFix> after i said it, i realized the initial idea I had may have some flaws
20:11 <@seeblind> For the entire network?
20:11 <@wontonjoe> any good suggestions on places to send a resume guys?
20:11 <@wontonjoe> as far as noc/tech stuff?
20:11 <@GodFix> yes, just internet traffic
20:11 <@sdodson> monster?
20:11 <@GodFix> deloitte and touche?
20:11 <@wontonjoe> heh
20:12 <@wontonjoe> monster is a black hole
20:12 <@GodFix> vandy?
20:12 <@wontonjoe> good idea GodFix
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20:16 <@sasquatc4> dice
20:18 <@wontonjoe> ph ya ive heard of dice
20:18 <@wontonjoe> ph=oh
20:18 <@wontonjoe> ill have to put in at all three
20:18 <@sdodson> wontonjoe: i'm proud of you
20:18 <@wontonjoe> why?
20:19 <@sdodson> cause you've stuck with the job
20:19 <@dc0de> wontonjoe where do you want to work, and what do you want to do?
20:19 <@sdodson> did they give you any sort of promotion?
20:20 <@dc0de> away
20:22 <@wontonjoe> no, no promotion
20:22 <@wontonjoe> just working in the middle of the night sdodson
20:23 <@wontonjoe> its just I dread being here, all I do is move paper around, I never get to fix anything and I have to defer to people with less experience than me who get paid more
20:24 <@wontonjoe> sdodson, ill stick with it till I find something else
20:24 <@sdodson> wontonjoe: cool
20:24 <@wontonjoe> I have a standing offer from delta, but all id be doing is taking reservations
20:25 <@GodFix> stepping stones
20:25 <@GodFix> some suck ass jobs are there so you don't go insane while waiting on the cool one
20:25 <@wontonjoe> ive got a closet full of those
20:25 <@wontonjoe> suck ass jobs that is :)
20:26 <@GodFix> sometimes I feel like I'm at one of those myself
20:27 <@wontonjoe> im thinking of getting into something non technical for a while, that or just a noc with no phone support job
20:27 <@wontonjoe> no enduser phone support that is
20:28 <@GodFix> I just want to win the lottery so I can get a job at Taco Bell and not have to worry about $
20:29 <@seeblind> Taco Hell? Why work there?
20:29 <@wontonjoe> my mother had james earl jones reading to her class today
20:30 <@wontonjoe> he was in huntsville
20:30 <@sdodson> i read to your mom too
20:30 <@sasquatc4> burn
20:30 <@wontonjoe> ya she said it was kinda spooky
20:31 <@wontonjoe> sdodson that is
20:31 <@GodFix> because Taco Bell is the perfect place to work if you don't give a shit
20:31 <@GodFix> i would already be a better employee than 95% of the ppl at the one on Bell Rd
20:33 <@sasquatc4> but why there, if you dont need to work, why work for the sheer satisfaction of being better at a shit ass job than some pimply faced teenager
20:33 <@sasquatc4> why not just do what ya like
20:34 <@GodFix> because it would be fun
20:34 <@sasquatc4> mmmk
20:34 <@GodFix> knowing that at any minute, you could just tell someone off without worrying about the ramifications
20:36 <@GodFix> I just have to stay busy
20:40 <@ladymerlin> whee
20:41 <@seeblind> Sup ladymerlin?
20:42 <@Evilpig> shhhhh she's sleeeeeeeping
20:42 <@seeblind> So she just peed in her bed.
20:43 <@GodFix> what time is the meeting tomorrow?
20:45 <@ladymerlin> 6
20:45 <@ladymerlin> i dont sleep type....often
20:45 <@Evilpig> 10
20:46 <@ladymerlin> hows it going seeblind
20:46 <@GodFix> I may be calling in sick
20:46 <@seeblind> Doing well. Just trying to get this PXE server working.
20:46 <@ladymerlin> fun fun
20:59 <@SkyDog_> GodFix: Go ahead and bail. It will be another 30 mins or so before I could get there.
21:00 * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_
21:00 <@SkyDog_> :P
21:01 <@GodFix> damn, didn't realize it was 9 already
21:02 <@GodFix> I've got alot of paperwork to do tonight. Yay for insurance Open Enrollment
21:03 <@GodFix> well, I can do it tomorrow
21:03 <@GodFix> night all
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21:05 <@seeblind> Sup SkyDog_? You still having problems?
21:06 <@SkyDog_> Nah. I am at a mailing house in Berry Hill, redesigning their workflow.
21:06 <@SkyDog_> I have alot of hats.
21:07 <@seeblind> Must have a big closet.
21:07 <@SkyDog_> a bit.
21:20 <@sdodson> SkyDog_: why are you doing bpm?
21:26 <@Shadow404> why i never want to get transferred to the ip op team> http://www.shadow404.com/143.sizes.@IMG00421.JPG?size1=L
21:27 <@Shadow404> this was on the noc whiteboard from last night
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21:32 <@sdodson> do you like what you do?
21:33 <@Shadow404> at times
21:38 <+coil> wow this video converter would be a lot cool if it would load the fucking buttons i need to see to encode..
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21:43 <@Shadow404> hi, i an talking with voice recognition
21:43 <+coil> am
21:43 <@Shadow404> this is cool
21:43 <+coil> lrn2speak
21:44 <@seeblind> Shadow404: what voice recognition program are you using?
21:44 <@Shadow404> fu coil
21:44 <+coil> suck my cock
21:44 <@Shadow404> seeblind vista
21:45 <@seeblind> Strait up? wow.
21:45 <@Shadow404> it works
21:45 <@Shadow404> quitely nicely
21:45 <@Shadow404> coil: ask neotrics mom
21:46 < cwire> so no killer the delete select all? or did they correct that in the release? :)
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21:48 <@Shadow404> still do that form time to time
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22:21 < mematrix-> 'lo all
22:24 <@brimstone> hi
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22:48 <@SkyDog_> Evening all.
22:54 <@brimstone> hi
22:55 <@SkyDog_> Yo.
22:56 <@brimstone> sup?
22:57 <@B3AST> howdy
22:57 <@SkyDog_> Feh. washing clothes. Hanging out on the couch for a few hours before I go back to work.
22:57 <@SkyDog_> yo B3AST
22:58 <@B3AST> days winding down man, get done with the work
22:58 <@SkyDog_> Hell, I need to goto the office, and work on a workstation there.
22:59 <@SkyDog_> I have to be in lavergne in the morning, and Al Gore's people are gonna call me at 8:30AM.
22:59 <@SkyDog_> I walked in this afternoon, and in 5 mins, fixed a problem their mac guy had been messing with all day.
22:59 <@B3AST> Skydog, what no remote mojo to the workstation in the office?
23:00 <@SkyDog_> Not my network. It's one of the people on Susan's side.
23:00 <@SkyDog_> Spyware too, so I need to be in front of it.
23:00 <@SkyDog_> sigh.
23:01 <@wontonjoe> sounds like your keeping busy SkyDog_
23:01 <@SkyDog_> A bit. Today was pretty hectic.
23:01 <@B3AST> your suppose to be keeping them spyware free, your not doing your job :-p
23:01 <@SkyDog_> This weekend is all about doing nothing.
23:02 <@Evilpig> take away their rights to install software and they will stay spyware free
23:02 <@SkyDog_> B3AST: They are brokers. Can't force them to do anything.
23:02 <@Evilpig> i can! i can!
23:02 <@SkyDog_> we're lucky to get them to use Trend Micro for antivurus.
23:02 <@wontonjoe> thats what I do on my weekdays, ive really got to speed those up, i work 12 hr shifts on the weekend but monday hits and im a lazy bastrard
23:02 <@B3AST> shit the weekens the only time Nissan gives us to actually DO anything
23:02 <@SkyDog_> 0nly after tons of paperwork...
23:05 <@wontonjoe> I do paperwork....
23:05 * wontonjoe looks at RT
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23:08 <@ShadowHntr> sup SkyDog_
23:08 <@ShadowHntr> any excitement?
23:08 <@SkyDog_> yo.
23:08 <@SkyDog_> not really.
23:08 <@ShadowHntr> at my place, doing laundry.
23:08 <@SkyDog_> whee. same here.
23:08 <@ShadowHntr> lol
23:10 <@ShadowHntr> hey would you happen to have any experience with freeradius?
23:10 <@SkyDog_> nope.
23:10 <@ShadowHntr> i'm planning on buying a dedicated access point
23:11 <@ShadowHntr> and securing my wireless wpa-enterprise authenticate against radius
23:11 <@SkyDog_> cool.
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23:29 <@Evilpig> Can't use string ("forget") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at
23:29 <@Evilpig> stupid right click.
23:33 <@ShadowHntr> guess i'll grab my laundry and head back to my dad's
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23:55 <@someninjamaster> sup everyone
23:56 <@juice> hi
23:58 <@someninjamaster> hello juice
23:59 <@juice> what's up?
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