--- Log opened Fri Oct 12 00:00:06 2007
--- Day changed Fri Oct 12 2007
00:00 <@Evilpig> I think the blog id is just a number 1 - 4 depending on the number on my site.  then the other part is the foreign id.
00:00 <@Evilpig> so really all the ids.  would be 1<postid>
00:00 <@Evilpig> in that case it shouldn't miss anything would it?
00:00 <@Evilpig> because it really is just matching the id of the incoming feed
00:01 <@Corydon76-dig> consider blog id 1, article 11, versus blog id 11, article 1.
00:01 <@Corydon76-dig> False positive on which happens last
00:01 <@Evilpig> yeah I see how that can screw something up. from what I have seen so far.  it looks like all the ids start out as http:///
00:02 <@Evilpig> so there shouldn't be a false match.  cause its blog id 1 with article http://test...
00:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah...
00:03 <@Evilpig> but anyway... on that pastebin.  line 18.  can you please tell me how to fix that.  to put a check in if $entry->issued; is null use the current time instead.  else use the $entry->issued;
00:03 <@Corydon76-dig> What's the date/time format you're using?
00:04 <@Evilpig> it converts it to UTC on the next line
00:04 <@Evilpig> so I would assume any format would work
00:04 <@dasunt> UTC!
00:04 <@dasunt> 4EVAH!
00:04 <@Evilpig> http://pastebin.ca/733786
00:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: use DateTime;
00:05 <@Corydon76-dig> $entry->issued ||= DateTime->now();
00:06 <@Evilpig> that's it?  that simple?
00:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Pretty much
00:06 <@Mirage> Now we need critch to chime in with how much easier it would be in ruby
00:06 <@juice> http://www.pastebin.ca/733904
00:07 <@juice> is there a way to fix this under linux?
00:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Hey, look, someone FINALLY gave as much as I did to pastebin
00:08 <@Evilpig> well crap.  no error.  but no post either
00:08 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: have you tried the freezer trick?
00:08 <@NotLarry> exit
00:08 <@juice> the only time I get this error is when trying to load X as  a certain user
00:08 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: Freeze the drive for 24 hours.  No, I'm not joking.
00:08 <@Mirage> NotLarry: stage left?
00:08 <@NotLarry> well, that would be the wrong window eh?:)
00:08 <@juice> trying to locate what files it is calling
00:08 <@NotLarry> Mirage, you get me that account info yet?
00:09 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: just get whatever data you want off of it ASAP
00:09 <@juice> Corydon76-dig, the guy giving the pn talk on data recovery said not to use that method
00:09 <@Mirage> NotLarry: no..i wasn't serious. level your toon
00:09 <@juice> at defcon
00:09 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: Cheap and effective, just not long term
00:10 <@Evilpig> Can't modify non-lvalue subroutine call at ./feeds line 27.  <-- that's what I got when I put in that ||= thing
00:10 <@Evilpig> my $issued = $entry->issued ||= DateTime->now();
00:10 <@Corydon76-dig> You can spend $200k getting all the data off a hard drive, after it's been "securely" wiped, but cheap is probably the way you want to go
00:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: oh, duh, sorry
00:11 <@juice> Corydon76-dig, I was hoping I could backup to the NLUG server and then copy back off
00:11 <@juice> to a new drive
00:12 <@Mirage> juice: it may not be a great method, but it can work.
00:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: then do:  $issued = $entry->issued || DateTime->now();
00:13 <@juice> The reason not to use th frezer trick is because you have about 10 minutes or so before it starts heating up and causing moisture then it will cause problems when getting the data off
00:13 <@Mirage> As I always tell people about the freezer thing, though, it's normally a one-shot deal..
00:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: and then use $issued below that
00:13 <@juice> now if I could keep it frozen while recovering it would be nice
00:13 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: the nlug server bit the big one
00:13 <@juice> :(
00:13 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: how big is your drive?
00:14 <@juice> um 40gb
00:14 <@Corydon76-dig> I have a USB drive you can borrow
00:14 <@juice> okay some earlier said they had a 20gb I could get from them at pn
00:14 <@juice> figured I would buy it to get by for now
00:15 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-dig: that did it!  thank you so very much!
00:15 <@Mirage> i've got a 60gb usb2/firewire i'll have with me
00:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: yw
00:15 <@juice> only 10gb or so is really needed prolly
00:16 <@Corydon76-dig> I bought a 320 the other day so I could rescue the data off my workstation, reformat, and install Ubuntu
00:16 <@juice> ic
00:16 <@Corydon76-dig> It was cheap... $130 at Wally world
00:16 <@juice> this is a laptop drive ata6
00:16 <@Corydon76-dig> I just made myself a partition and copied every file over
00:20 <@Mirage> juice: my external is for laptop ide drives, so you could just pull the drive and hook it to another system
00:20 <@juice> really
00:20 <@juice> http://www.bixnet.com/ezdattrankit.html
00:20 <@juice> something like that?
00:20 <@Mirage> no, much prettier
00:20 <@juice> cool
00:21 <@juice> I might take advantage of that then
00:21 <@juice> if you don't mind
00:21 <@Mirage> gonna borrow it at the con?
00:21 <@juice> yeah
00:22 <@juice> http://www.priorityelectronics.com/laptopaccessories/laptopaccessoryharddrive.htm
00:22 <@juice> is yours like this?
00:22 <@juice> I might buy on myself at that price
00:23 <@juice> on=one
00:23 <@juice> for future use
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00:24 <@juice> bah I might get that internal adapter piece on there and use it 12 bucks seems cheap
00:25 <@Mirage> juice: close to this, but firewire/usb2 and in a leather case: http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-2-0-2-5-Hard-Driver-Enclosure-for-PC-MAC-Notebook_W0QQitemZ120171348089QQihZ002QQcategoryZ74949QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
00:25 <@Mirage> ~minilink
00:25 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/ebay.com/HKJiZ
00:25 <@juice> k
00:25 <@juice> cool
00:25 <@Evilpig> damn rattle and his constant disconnecting / reconnecting
00:26 <@juice> brb switching computers out
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00:35 <@freakn> anyone here play HL2: Portals yet?
00:36 <@freakn> anyone here disapointed?
00:38 <@freakn> $20 would get me a better time, reguargless of the years of anticipation, with a hooker
00:38 <@freakn> When I sober up I'll try the rest of orange box, like TFC2 ... which I have been waiting for for 7 years or so
00:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Save your money... I'll do you for free
00:40 <@freakn> you don't have hte anticipation ... though you probably have the disappointment
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00:41 <@freakn> this was SO MUCH anticipation
00:41 <@freakn> 19 little levels
00:41 <@Corydon76-dig> You'll get plenty of anticipation... or is that anxiety?
00:41 <@freakn> I thought I was training ... but ... BERH, n
00:43 <@freakn> BTW, Sweetwater Donkry Punch ... good shit if you like EPAs / IBAs
00:43 <@freakn> Donkey Punch is halkfway between 420 and Exodus .... but REALLY good
00:44 <@freakn> it is west coast hoppy ... but still decent taste and balance
00:44 <@freakn> it is amazing ... $8 a litter ... worth a try for those of you that like beer better than light pilsners
00:46 <@Psyiode> i havent seen that one
00:46 <@freakn> a few weeks old
00:46 <@Psyiode> i experienced a 7 day cruise on 420
00:47 <@freakn> only in Liquor stores in ATK
00:47 <@Psyiode> and blueberry
00:47 <@Psyiode> ah
00:47 <@freakn> gah, you like Blue?
00:47 <@Psyiode> no i didnt really... it was ok.. the boat ran out of 420
00:47 <@Corydon76-dig> He likes all things blue... hair, too
00:47 <@Psyiode> haha
00:47 <@freakn> anyhow ... hopefullly the "Festive ALe" style bottles will hit further distrib .. since they are NOT 12 ox / 6 packs
00:47 <@Corydon76-dig> and balls
00:48 <@freakn> I get them at well stocked Wine /
00:48 <@freakn> Liquor store
00:48 <@freakn> Are you in ATL, or elsewhere?
00:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Phoenix
00:49 <@freakn> OK, I don't think sweetwater reaches there ... most likely pheonix's extra beer shelves are crowded with california crap
00:50 <@freakn> Psyiode ... ATL?
00:50 <@Psyiode> yeah im in phoenix area
00:50 <@freakn> damn
00:50 <@Psyiode> i know a liquor store that carries sweetwater
00:50 <@freakn> really!
00:50 <@freakn> AZ!
00:50 <@freakn> wow!
00:51 <@Psyiode> yeah, right next to the university :)
00:51 <@freakn> poke them about "Donkey Punch"
00:51 <@Psyiode> ill have to drop by and see if they have any donkey punch
00:51 <@Psyiode> yeah
00:51 <@freakn> say "Road trip is shit, I don't like road trip ... I want Donkry Punch"
00:51 <@Psyiode> blue moon has been my thing lately
00:51 <@Psyiode> haha
00:52 <@freakn> I LUV wheat ales, though Coors draft wheat has gotten a little old for me
00:52 <@freakn> whatever you do, don't drink Road Trip
00:52 <@freakn> say you want Donkey Punch
00:52 <@freakn> call every day and say it
00:53 <@freakn> in a week if they don't claim to be shipping it, I'll break a few laws with no return address and ship a bottle or 2 to you
00:53 <@freakn> a week
00:54 <@freakn> do PM things then
00:54 <@freakn> or ... or you doing PN11?
00:57 <@Psyiode> oh yeah ill be there :)
00:57 <@Psyiode> anything you want from out here?
00:57 <@freakn> I don't know about TN distribution
00:57 < eryc> "We are also aware of no patent lawsuit against Linux. Ever. Anywhere,"
00:57 < eryc> i thought SCO sued "Linux"
00:57 <@Dagmar> No.
00:58 <@freakn> I will nOT be at PN this year due to other obligations, and all my close friends will not due to other, more serious obligations
00:58 < eryc> that was just copyright issues i guess
00:58 <@Dagmar> ...and right now, SCO's existance is more questionable than a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs made of high explosives.
00:58 <@Psyiode> ah thats too bad
00:58 <@Psyiode> didnt SCO get kicked off nasdaq?
00:58 <@Dagmar> Probably
00:58 < eryc> yes, but they were attacking Linux so its inaccurate to say that there haven't been lawsuits against linux
00:58 <@someninjamaster> dagmar i like that image
00:59 < eryc> which they do qualify with "patent" lawsuits but I still find it misleading
00:59 <@Dagmar> After that judged ruled that their claims had less than no merit at all, SCO is lucky the judge didn't let Novell order them to freeze SCO's assets so that they could recoup what they're owed
00:59 <@freakn> Psyiode:  I can try to find someone to ship $8 bottles to TN with in the next week, cause real beer people should taste it ... and I think also the dudes doing the beer presentation at PN should have it too as a gift from me
00:59 <@Dagmar> eryc: SCOs suit was entirely without merit, so to use it to say there've been lawsuits is *highly* questionable logic
01:00 <@Psyiode> freakn: cool, well ill be in TN for a week or so, and will look around for it
01:00 <@Dagmar> eryc: ...and I mean ENTIRELY.  The current standing is that SCO didn't have any grounds to seek this suit because they didn't actually own any rights to UNIX anymore.
01:00 <@Dagmar> They sold them to Novell over a decade ago and somehow managed to overlook this when starting up their lawsuit.
01:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: uh, no.  Novell failed to sell them to SCO
01:01 <@freakn> Dagmar: I thought the big thing's hit when the "Oracle CEO's" little netowrk of friends all counter sued SCO after they made suits against IBM's past involvement in reasearch
01:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Novell had the rights before SCO, not the other way around
01:02 <@freakn> Psyiode: if you know anyonw driving to TN from ATL (cause I don't) please pass info along, and feel free also to poke me in a few days just to make sure / look into these possible things being done
01:02 <@Dagmar> Either way, SCOs suit was utterly groundless
01:03 <@Psyiode> freakn: cool, ill see who i can ping, thanks
01:03 <@freakn> The oracle dude's little club .. all the companys that would protect linux suits ... the ones that did counter suit theat were in that club?
01:04 <@freakn> ... the club has billions of dollars of lawyers
01:04 < eryc> i'm not disagreeing with the fact that SCO had an invalid claim.  i was just arguing that it was a claim in the first place
01:04 < eryc> regardless i agree it doesn't really matter
01:05 <@Dagmar> eryc: Arguing that is like arguing that you're a child molester because some crazy lazy in Spokane Washington filed a complain with her police department that in a dream you raped her nonexistant 9-year old daughter
01:05 <@freakn> I guess my point is that even if someone did complain (arround the time of SCO) that all these other "club" companies want to use the free OS, and all agree to bitch slap anyone trying to claim little BS things against the free OS
01:07 <@freakn> I swear I am not making this up though I don't have decent sounding facts
01:07 <@freakn> no one else has heard of this?
01:14 < eryc> take off the tin foil hat dude
01:14 < eryc> and use the guys name, larry wall
01:15 <@freakn> oracle guy?
01:15 < eryc> ya oracle dude :)
01:15 <@freakn> ya
01:15 <@freakn> mk
01:16 <@freakn> plenty of other things I can say about oracle foundings .. but seeing how no one care s about this even right now ...  I'll be quite
01:16 < eryc> Dagmar: we could argue that Iraq had WMD's if you like, heh
01:17 <@Dagmar> 'cept we've been all over that stretch of sand and there weren't any fucking WMDs and Bush is a goddamn liar.
01:17 <@freakn> The white hous admited there were no WMDs ... I think the did it convienitly when anna nicole smith died
01:19 <@freakn> wow
01:19 < eryc> ah, is that way that story was overblown
01:19 <@freakn> I am d/ling radioheds new album
01:20 < eryc> sheep
01:21 <@freakn> I like this idea.  I am going to listen to it ... and afterwards I am going to put a price on it.  And seeing how they are going against RIAA .. it is going to be a higher ammount.
01:21 <@freakn> I hope I like it, I want it to sting.
01:28 < eryc> how is this a slight against RIAA again?
01:29 < eryc> i think it has more to do with the record companies and distribution models than the trade organization that represents them
01:29 < eryc> i guess it could effect the RIAA as record companies lose the ability to fund the org
01:29 <@freakn> go to meme streams and read the argument
01:30 <@freakn> udes are even loosing iTunes rights doing this
01:31 < eryc> its not on memestreams frontpage
01:31 <@freakn> I won;t finish it tonight ... as I got to sleep soon, but I feel a desire to directly pay for music on my generic music rotation ... and I will pay for it knowing it is directly to the musicians themself
01:31 < eryc> how are they damaging their relation with Apple/iTunes?
01:31 <@freakn> hell if I know
01:32 < eryc> i see it as a novel idea that won't take hold for many years to come
01:32 <@freakn> if I told Steve Jobs fuck you, I'd probably be off iTunes the next day too
01:33 <@freakn> and I see raadiohead as a group willing to take the stand and take the aconomic hit so that others may come years from now
01:35 <@freakn> from the few tracks I have listened to, it is not a CD that will hit the airways, but still with my likes I might pay for it
01:35 < eryc> i would bet a graph of their sales would look like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Normal_distribution_pdf.png
01:36 < eryc> at least based on the preliminary rumors regarding the average sales price
01:36 <@freakn> I hope the normal dist is comparable to the rest of the same genre in the industry
01:37 < eryc> i'm guessing you can still get radiohead on itunes today
01:37 < eryc> why would apple choose to not make money?
01:37 <@freakn> I have never bought itunes, I have p2p
01:37 < eryc> i just stopped consuming
01:37 <@freakn> I don't share, I won't get sued
01:37 < eryc> i have sirius i guess
01:38 < eryc> and shoutcast
01:38 < eryc> i consume data streams now :)
01:38 <@freakn> last CD I WENT OUT and bought was toll 10,00 days .. cause I liked it
01:38 <@freakn> tool, 10,000 days
01:39 < eryc> probably would end up better for the artist if you bought a concert ticket and a tshirt
01:39 <@freakn> I went to the last two tool concertsin Atlanta, bought 1 T-shirt.  I plan on going to the next tool concert in Atlanta
01:40 <@freakn> fuckers only have a west coast tour set up now
01:40 <@Dagmar> I just buy vinyl now.
01:40 <@Dagmar> Fuck CDs and fuck greedy music labels.
01:40 < eryc> word.
01:41 <@freakn> like vinals are "not" produced bt lables
01:41 <@freakn> pfft
01:41 <@freakn> tool
01:41 <@freakn> they still are
01:41 <@freakn> just in an old school manor
01:41 <@Dagmar> When less than 5% of what you pay for a CD is going to the _artist_, and your industry is fucking levying finance-destroying lawsuits at their customer base, it's fucking over.
01:41 <@freakn> just real muscians do it
01:41 <@Dagmar> Learn to spell or STFU.
01:41 <@Dagmar> Please.
01:41 <@freakn> vinal is stil through though "industry"
01:42 <@freakn> oh yes, make fun of irrelavent things now
01:42 <@Psyiode> i like going to small shows and buying cds from artists directly
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01:42 <@freakn> ass
01:42 <@Dagmar> Illiterate.
01:42 <@freakn> funny tough
01:43 <@freakn> forgot what I was typing
01:43 <@freakn> something about you being a scared little bitch resorting to bitch ass tatics because you can't accept progress and change?  I dunoo, maybe, maybe not
01:44 <@freakn> call me names, but I like the changes
01:44 <@Dagmar> Yeah, that's one of the problems I hear illiterate morons have... being unable to form a coherent sentence.
01:44 <@freakn> oh yes, the name calling
01:44 <@freakn> dring it
01:45 <@freakn> can't face the facts, beat down the person
01:45 <@Dagmar> What's the point in having a battle of wits with someone so clearly unarmed.
01:45 < eryc> some poeple consider it rude and disrespectful to use poorly formed sentences, excessive typos, and blatant mispellings of other people's words.
01:45 <@freakn> oh so clearly, so clearly to someone who doesn't desire to read the truth .. why bother?
01:46 <@freakn> when even leters can be missed but the meaning expressed ..,
01:46 <@freakn> yes, lets focus on the little things
01:46 <@Dagmar> I figure the odds of their being any truth in that verbal crapstorm are about on par with the ramblings of any derelict at the end of an alley.
01:47 <@Dagmar> So, last warning.
01:47 <@Dagmar> If you're going to continue to attempt to lower the bar for literate behaviour, don't be suprised when people retaliate.
01:47 <@freakn> lets start with something .. simpler ... do you have a problem with the speeling of ... my name?
01:48 <@freakn> where does your hate start?
01:48 <@freakn> actually
01:49 <@freakn> this doesn't feel good for me now, I probably will just go to bed soon.
01:50 < eryc> hope you like the new radiohead
01:51 <@freakn> unfortunitly I sopted paying atention a few minutes ago to do IRC things, but that was not a good idea
01:51 <@Dagmar> I have a nicer solution
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01:52 <@freakn> it would be nicer if that went away
01:52 <@freakn> youknow me and my opinions
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01:54 <@Dagmar> Ahh... blessed quiet.
01:54 <@freakn> who?
01:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, no.  He has ops, so those mode changes are ineffective
01:54 <@Dagmar> Oh well
01:55 <@Dagmar> If he can't be bothered to take his own words seriously enough to fucking spell them correctly, or at least more accurately than a nine-year-old, then why the hell should anyone else care what he says.
01:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b %freakn!*@*] by freakn
01:55 <@freakn> because who cares what a bigot says in response
01:56 <@Dagmar> Please justify exactly how I am a bigot.
01:56 <@freakn> agsinst wrong spelling, against 9-yearolds
01:57 <@Dagmar> Now you're just making up your own meaning to words.
01:57 <@freakn> hpw about you look up the true meaning
01:57 <@Dagmar> No, that's your job.
01:57 <@freakn> done
01:57 <@freakn> your turn
01:57 <@Dagmar> You're the one for whom English is apparently a second language.
01:57 <@freakn> you are the one that doesn't know the words you use
01:58 <@Dagmar> So, welcome to the ignore list, fuck stick.
01:58 <@Dagmar> I'm glad you're not coming to PhreakNIC
01:58 <@freakn> duen there 5 times, oh well
01:58 <@Dagmar> ...because it would be a shame for you to taint the scene.
01:58 <@freakn> you didn't notice before, you even know me?
02:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Dear god, there's more drama in here than there is on gay.com
02:01 <@Dagmar> Perhaps both channels should start issuing IQ and literacy tests before handing out +o
02:02 <@Dagmar> I see that the little spinner in the corner of my display is going, which tells me that likely someone's too dim to undestand what being put on ignore means.
02:03 <@freakn> or what being an asshole means
02:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Clearly, one person is too drunk and one person is too bored.
02:04 <@freakn> But who goes through the power trip in that situation?
02:04 <@Dagmar> Last I checked, being drunk never affected my ability to spell words correctlyt.
02:04 <@Dagmar> s/lyt/ly/;
02:07 <@freakn> And ya, it does feel bad .... if the rest of ya'll are wondering
02:09 <@freakn> someone said something about the Radiohead thing earlier .... http://www.memestreams.net/thread/bid33602/ should do it for you
02:53 <@freakn> that got quiet
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06:39 <@Dagmar> Wow
06:39 <@Dagmar> Anne Coulter's not sucking dicks to get herself out of this one
06:42 <@Dagmar> http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
06:42 <@Dagmar> "No, we think . we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say."
06:42 <@Dagmar> *wow*
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07:24 <@Shadow404> well i beat ep2 in less than 5 hours
07:24 <@Shadow404> :( me sad now
07:24 <@brimstone> scotchick said you were quick
07:24 <@Shadow404> lawl
07:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:27 <@Shadow404> morning dole
07:33 <@Shadow_Phone> brimstone: did you ever get past chamber 18?
07:33 <@Shadow_Phone> got the energy ball loaded, but cant grab the damn weight cube
07:36 <@dc0de> mr0nin Dolemite
07:36 <@dc0de> it's off to work time...
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07:58 <@someninjamaster> shadow_phone: ping
08:00 <@someninjamaster> or anyone that knows the atlanta area
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08:06 <@Shadow_Phone> go ahead
08:06 <@Dolemite> tcstool : Make sure that when ware interviews at your office today that you make lots of references to when you met him in jail
08:06 <@someninjamaster> when does the traffic start to clear out on 75 north in the morning
08:06 <@Dolemite> around 2AM
08:06 <@Shadow_Phone> 10ish
08:07 <@someninjamaster> hmm
08:07 <@someninjamaster> is the traffic mainly just in town or does it go further north
08:08 <@Shadow_Phone> depeds
08:08 <@someninjamaster> im at the renaissance waverly
08:08 <@someninjamaster> from what i see on the map im pretty far north
08:09 <@Dolemite> most of the traffic will be inbound
08:09 <@Shadow_Phone> your in coob county
08:09 <@Shadow_Phone> *cobb
08:09 <@Dolemite> May-retta
08:09 <@Shadow_Phone> so yes it is the worse place for suburbia traffic
08:10 <@Shadow_Phone> haha, i live i powder springs now
08:13 <@tcstool> Dolemite:  I'm giving my two weeks today so good luck to him
08:13 <@Dolemite> tcstool : Exactly!  So you don't care what you implicate yourself with :)
08:14 <@tcstool> precisely
08:14 <@Dolemite> tcstool : Where you going to?
08:14 <@tcstool> Another local IT consulting company
08:14 <@Dolemite> ZOMFG Battlestar Galactica:RAZOR review/spoilers!@#$!@#
08:14 <@Dolemite> http://eclipsemagazine.com/?p=4632#more-4632
08:14 <@tcstool> coming back here was really just a gap filler until I could find something else local
08:14 <@Dolemite> tcstool : Still in Cookevegas?
08:14 <@tcstool> Yeah
08:14 <@tcstool> so no commute
08:14 <@tcstool> which will be good with a baby on the way
08:15 <@Dolemite> I found a kick ass company in Algood that you need to go work for, and send us toys from
08:15 <@tcstool> These guys pay overtime and are real laid back, so getting off "exempt" status will be great
08:15 <@Dolemite> http://www.research-electronics.com
08:15 <@tcstool> Really? Who is it?
08:15 <@tcstool> Hey!
08:15 <@tcstool> Me and another tech put the phone system in there!
08:15 <@Dolemite> Hahahaha
08:15 <@tcstool> Yeah
08:15 <@tcstool> those guys are really cool
08:16 <@Dolemite> They already had commitments for next weekend, but I had talked to them about presenting at PN
08:16 <@tcstool> Yeah
08:16 <@tcstool> well they were trying to cancel my day off to go to PN which was the last straw
08:17 <@Dolemite> Where is TCS?
08:17 <@tcstool> two offices, one in cookeville and one in nashville
08:18 <@Dolemite> ah, so ware is trying for the BNA office
08:18 <@tcstool> Yeah
08:18 <@Dolemite> what part of town is that office in?
08:18 <@tcstool> It's right near the Dell building
08:18 <@Dolemite> Ah
08:18 <@tcstool> Airpark Center office park
08:18 <@Dolemite> yep
08:18 <@Dolemite> I'm heading out that way today, matter of fact
08:18 <@tcstool> They were trying to make us go on a rotating shift 6-3
08:18 <@Dolemite> Accu-Tech is having an open house customer appreciation event
08:18 <@tcstool> But with his school schedule he could do that and the rest of us could sleep
08:19 <@tcstool> Wow, we didn't get invited and we buy all kinds of stuff from them
08:19 <@Dolemite> 11a-2p today.  Just show up.  I was told to share the invite with whoever I wanted.
08:19 <@tcstool> ha, well I'm down in Cookeville today
08:19 <@tcstool> I'll have to pass that along though
08:19 <@Dolemite> lewser
08:19 <@tcstool> Free food?
08:19 <@Dolemite> yeah, and door prizers!
08:20 <@tcstool> nice
08:20 <@tcstool> Well it's another tech's last day, so they may be taking him out to lunch
08:21 <@tcstool> out to lunch at accu-tech customer appreciation day with free food
08:21 <@tcstool> that actually sounds like something they'd go for!
08:24 <@Dolemite> hey now, don't water down my odds for the door prizes TOO much!
08:24 <@tcstool> Good point
08:24 <@Dolemite> I told Skydog to show up, too
08:24 <@Dolemite> He needs to start going somewhere other than Graybar for his parts.  Those guys are teh suck.
08:24 <@tcstool> Oh yeah Graybar is HORRIBLE
08:25 <@tcstool> we quit dealing with them about a year and a half ago
08:42 <@baudburn> all you gun freaks should get a kick out of this
08:42 <@baudburn> http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/100907dnmetrobshooting.2c97696.html
08:44 <@Dolemite> ~minilink
08:44 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/dallasnews.com/xFI8w.html
08:44 <@someninjamaster> id say crime just went down in their area
08:45 <@Dolemite> Doesn't Texas still allow people to carry guns in a holster without a permit?
08:45 <@someninjamaster> hmm
08:45 <@Dolemite> As long as it's not conceiled?
08:45 <@Dolemite> er, concealed
08:45 <@baudburn> i have no idea
08:45 <@someninjamaster> that ones a little sketchy
08:46 <@baudburn> i know you can carry a gun in your car with an unlimited amount of ammo
08:46 <@someninjamaster> im not sure that was considered a justified shooting after the suspect was disarmed
08:46 <@baudburn> and since your car is considered your homestead, of someone trys to break in while you are in there, you can fire away
08:47 <@Shadow_Phone> guess "s" is pretty low on cue list
08:47 <@Dolemite> doh!
08:47 <@Shadow_Phone> woops, damn cat
08:47 <@Dolemite> http://ctrlaltdel-online.com   500 - Internal Server Error
08:47 <@someninjamaster> hehe
08:49 <@Dolemite> Whoa.  The new Captain America has a gun.
08:49 <@someninjamaster> the only way that couple can stay out of legal trouble is if they can prove that the robber would have attacked them again after he was pushed off
08:49 <@Dolemite> The times they are a' changing.
08:49 <@tcstool> That's disturbing
08:49 <@someninjamaster> i thought captain america took a sniper round to the skull
08:49 <@Dolemite> They killed off Steve Rogers
08:49 <@tcstool> I think he's "died" like 5 times now
08:49 <@someninjamaster> oh
08:49 <@Dolemite> There's a new Captain America
08:49 <@baudburn> i doubt they're gonna run into any legal problems.
08:49 <@Dolemite> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=44670
08:50 <@baudburn> this is texas, shooting people is as common as going to the store for milk
08:51 <@Dolemite> *sigh*  Another day, another pictures of Britney Spears flashing her coochie at paparazzi.
08:52 <@Dolemite> s/pictures/picture
08:52 <@tcstool> that's the way to get your kids back
08:52 <@someninjamaster> she really should save the effort of getting dressed in the morning
08:52 <@someninjamaster> and walk around in the nude
08:54 <@someninjamaster> with a pa system saying look at me i need attention
08:54 <@someninjamaster> well time to hit the road
08:54 <@someninjamaster> be back in 4 hours
08:54 <@Dolemite> back in Nashville?
08:54 <@someninjamaster> yep
08:54 <@Dolemite> werd
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08:56 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm surprised she hasn't been arrested and charged with public indecency yet
08:56 <@baudburn> she had her kids taken away?
08:57 <@tcstool> Yeah
08:57 <@Dolemite> heh, yeah
08:57 <@Corydon76-dig> K-Fed has it
08:57 <@Dolemite> K-Fed was easily shown to be a more responsible parent
08:57 <@baudburn> hah
08:57 <@baudburn> when was this?
08:57 <@Corydon76-dig> which is scary in itself
08:57 <@Corydon76-dig> A week ago
08:57 <@tcstool> Or just downright sad
08:58 <@Dolemite> For one of the kid's birthday a few weeks ago, he threw a big party.  Britney, instead, went out drinking the night before and was seen by herself at Taco Bell later in the day.
08:58 <@Dolemite> It's been about 2 weeks since K-Fed got sole custody
08:58 <@baudburn> nice
08:58 <@baudburn> what caused the swithc?
08:58 <@tcstool> But they granted her increased visitation yesterday
08:58 <@tcstool> I think they can spend the night with her now
08:58 <@Dolemite> baudburn : Uh, where to begin?
08:59 <@Dolemite> As of yesterday she gets one night a week
08:59 <@baudburn> Dolemite: there must have been one event that caused the whole thing to go down
08:59 <@Corydon76-dig> She desperately needs a rehab option that she cannot check herself out of
09:00 <@Dolemite> She had been ordered to get a CA drivers license and to undergo random drug screenings in order to keep the kids.  She thought a trip to Starbucks was more important, or getting a nap after partying all night.  The judge told her to go fuck herself and awarded the custody to K-Fed.
09:00 <@tcstool> I think she got the driver's license
09:00 <@Dolemite> She had several car accidents in the last year and it was revealed that she'd never gotten a valid CA drivers license.
09:01 <@Dolemite> She got the license *after* the kids were taken away
09:01 <@tcstool> right
09:01 <@tcstool> which if I recall correctly was why her attorney said she lost the kids to start with
09:01 <@baudburn> nice
09:01 <@tcstool> Which sounded like BS from an attorney who just lost a high profiel case
09:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, it wasn't so much the license as it was failing to obey the judge's order
09:03 <@Dolemite> it was the license + drug screens
09:04 <@Dolemite> They were all court ordered, and she ignored the orders
09:05 <@Corydon76-dig> No, I meant that the license isn't the critical part of it, which is why getting the license after the fact will have no bearing.
09:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Once she starts listening to judges' orders, no matter what they are, she'll have made an about-face and could get her kids back
09:07 <@Corydon76-dig> but committed to 6 months rehab is probably the next best step
09:09 <@Dolemite> Well it was part of it.  The meat of K-Fed's argument was child endangerment, because she wasn't even a legally licensed operator of a vehicle.  Oh, she was also seen driving the kids around after the judge ordered her not to do so until she get a license.
09:09 <@Dolemite> CA requires that you get a CA license within 90 days of moving there.  She's been there for what, 5+ years?
09:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
09:10 <@Dolemite> But yes, the judge could have ordered her to abstain from chalupas and if she refused, he could take her kids away.
09:10 <@Dolemite> But that would be harder to comply with than staying away from drugs.  The girl is the poster child for Taco Bell.
09:33 <@Evilpig> check out today's penny arcade.  lol.  driving time now.
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09:36 <@ladymerlin> ShadowHntr: done your wizz quiz yet?
09:39 <@ShadowHntr> not yet
09:39 <@ShadowHntr> will do it today
09:39 <@ShadowHntr> i'll study *really* hard
09:41 <@ladymerlin> lol
09:44 <@Dagmar> http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9795510-38.html
09:44 <@Dagmar> I wonder what would happen if I were to offer to go get a concealed carry permit in order to protect the area of campus I'm in would I get suspended
09:44 <@Dagmar> That's just *lame* of Hamline U
09:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Um, while I think the university actions are misplaced, it was more for the tone of the actual email.
09:57 <@Corydon76-dig> racist and classist
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09:59 <@Corydon76-dig> I suppose they're erring on the side of caution... if this guy went apeshit, they would have been gnashing their teeth over the troubling email he had sent them previously
10:02 <@Dagmar> No they're not.  They were just thinking they could simply silence their complainant by kicking him out
10:03 <@Dagmar> This guy isn't just "some guy" with a gun
10:03 <@Dagmar> He's been through all the training and evaluations one has to take to get a concealed carry permit
10:03 <@Dagmar> This wasn't some "fill out a form and wait 72 hours" thing
10:03 <@Dolemite> He's a grad student.  By definition he's whacked in the head.
10:04 <@Corydon76-dig> At first blush, it looks that way, but if you read further down in the article, you'll see that his email was written in a fit of anger.  It was calm and responsible, like a graduate student should know how to write
10:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Err, it wasn't calm and responsible
10:04 <@Dagmar> Uh huh.
10:04 <@Dagmar> I'm very sure that all inter-personell email is written calmly and responsibly
10:05 <@Dagmar> Sloppy grammar is a pretty fucking far cry from being a homocidal maniac
10:05 <@Dagmar> ...regardless of what English teachers might say about it
10:06 <@Corydon76-dig> When you see an email that in essence says "I have a gun and I know how to use it." and "I'm particularly upset about the privileges I see that minorities are getting." that's rather upsetting.
10:06 <@Dagmar> THat's no different than taking anything anyone else says out of context
10:06 <@Dagmar> YOU just said "I have a gun and know how to use it"
10:06 <@Dagmar> Should we contact your office and warn them that you said this and that you might pose a work-hazard?
10:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: go right ahead
10:07 <@Corydon76-dig> I think everybody is already clear that I do not possess any guns
10:07 <@Dagmar> The guy has may have used sloppy grammar but the points he made that have actually made their way into the press are pretty much spot on
10:07 <@Dagmar> Minority scholarships shoudln't be given to people who aren't minorities
10:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Then again, I haven't made the case to Digium that I think I should be able to carry a concealed weapon into their office building and oh by the way, I'm particularly upset about privileges some minorities are getting.
10:08 <@Dagmar> Ah but that's not what he was saying
10:08 <@Dagmar> He *offered* to do it
10:09 <@Dagmar> He didn't say he thought he should be allowed to carry on campus
10:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, that's not exactly comforting, either
10:09 <@Dagmar> Okay, you just go back to living in chicken land then
10:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Kind of creepy, actually
10:09 <@Dagmar> Creepy that he offered to help with campus security?
10:10 <@Dagmar> I don't see how that's creepy
10:10 <@Dagmar> You don't complain about all the looney fucks we have carrying guns who come to PhreakNIC and I'm damn sure most of them don't have concealed carry permits.
10:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: as a university administrator, do you think it's wise to let somebody upset about minority privileges carry a gun on campus?
10:10 <@Dagmar> THey're not carrying them around, but they *could* because they have htem
10:11 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-vcch: As an administrator, do you think it's wise to ban every student who happens to have a concealed carry permit, just beause it means they *might* have a gun?
10:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: he wasn't banned for having a CCW
10:12 <@Dagmar> So what *was* he banned for?
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10:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Dunno, you'd have to ask the university admins, since they aren't talking
10:12 <@Dagmar> Chicken shit
10:12 <@Dagmar> Complete and utter chicken shit
10:12 <@Corydon76-dig> However, I think they were erring on the side of caution
10:12 <@Dagmar> I think they were erring on the side of panic
10:13 <@Dagmar> THe terrorists win again
10:13 <@Corydon76-dig> No, they only required him to get a psych eval
10:13 <@SkyDog_> Sigh. How are teh terorist winning again?
10:13 <@Dagmar> "It's not censorship.  We're only thinking of your welfare."
10:13 <@Corydon76-dig> It's not censorship if they think you pose a possible threat
10:14 <@Corydon76-dig> In fact, it's not censorship at all
10:14 <@Dagmar> SkyDog_: Grad student booted out of school for complaining about abuse of minority scholarships and offering to carry on campus if they decide it's allowable
10:14 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-vcch: Nothing makes this guy a threat
10:14 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: in the same email
10:15 <@Dagmar> If *anything* the fact that he went through all that rigamarole to get the CC permit should stand in his favor
10:15 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : What time are you going over to the Accu-Tech open house?
10:16 <@Corydon76-dig> quote from the email:  "there may be people on the edge ready to snap. I cant say I blame them, I myself am tired of having to pay my own extremely overpriced tuition"
10:16 <@ladymerlin> ShadowHntr: ping
10:16 <@Dagmar> By the standard they have set now, they should be cross-referencing their student list with the state to find out who of them also might have a CC permit, and the moment ANY of them complain about anything, they should be booted.
10:16 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: I dunno. When you going? I have to goto summit for a bit.
10:16 <@Dagmar> That's the baseline they've set up.
10:16 <@Dolemite> I will be leaving here at noon, so I'll be there around 12:15
10:16 <@Dolemite> well, 12:15/12:30ish
10:17 <@SkyDog_> Cool. I'll try and hit it then.
10:17 <@Dagmar> If they boot someone for "safety" once, that's the standard they have to apply to *all* students.
10:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: and yet, they haven't booted everybody with a CCW off campus, so they must not be using that criterion
10:17 <@Dagmar> Yes, which makes this censorship and stupidity.
10:19 <@Dagmar> Heh watching Joel use his "coarse adjustment tools"
10:19 <@Dagmar> Stuffing big wooden blocks into the HVAC unit
10:26 <@Shadow_Phone> is it me, or is no one signing up yet?
10:31 <@Dolemite> Um, you know how many years it has taken just to get people used to making hotel reservations?
10:33 <@Dolemite> Even just 2 years ago we'd have maybe 30 rooms reserved two weeks before PN
10:33 <@Dolemite> Most of the group figures they can just show up and figure something out
10:34 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, yeah, hence my sign up sheets at the convention
10:36 <@Psyiode> i figured something out last night and got the last room
10:36 <@Psyiode> and Shadow404 is it just me or is it impossible to reply or even post a new message on the scavenger forum
10:37 <@Shadow_Phone> you have to sign up first
10:38 <@Shadow_Phone> *register
10:38 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, nm
10:38 <@Shadow_Phone> hmm
10:38 <@Psyiode> yeah.. im logged in with 'psyiode'
10:38 <@Psyiode> haha
10:38 <@Shadow_Phone> nioticed
10:38 <@Psyiode> maybe a bit too locled down?
10:38 <@Shadow_Phone> well, hang on, dcode must of broke it
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10:46 <@Shadow_Phone> gah, would fix it, but i just had an irate customer call cause the facility borked their shit
10:47 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, try that
10:47 <@Evilpig> yay 2hours of driving for 8 min on site
10:48 <@Shadow_Phone> been there done that
10:48 <@Shadow_Phone> how about a 4 hour flight to do a 2 hour install and then 4 hour flight back, all in one day
10:48 <@Dagmar> You must be a terrorist
10:48 <@Shadow_Phone> yep
10:48 <@Shadow_Phone> wait, no
10:48 <@Dolemite> How about the ol' 16 hour flight for a 45 minute presentation? :)
10:48 <@Evilpig> came out to troubleshoot a backupexec problem to find out that it is working correct with nothing needed from me
10:49 <@Dagmar> You're traveling with no luggage and have knowledge of things DHS baggage fondlers don't understand
10:50 <@Shadow_Phone> hehe, haha
10:50 <@Shadow_Phone> last time i flew out to seattle just to replace a gbic card cause the techs couldnt find the right cage over a period of a week
10:51 <@Shadow_Phone> my boss had a serious talk to their manager when i found it in les than 2 hours
10:52 <@Shadow_Phone> Psyiode: any luck?
10:53 <@Dolemite> anybody happen to have a .iso of a windows XP rescue disc?
10:53 <@Dolemite> aka BartPE
10:54 <@Psyiode> woohoo it works now shadow
10:54 <@Shadow_Phone> coolness
10:54 <@Shadow_Phone> was just opening a testacct
10:55 <@Shadow_Phone> to check the functions under member perms
10:58 <@Evilpig> dolemite i do call me for the info
10:58 <@Dolemite> ok
11:03 <@Dolemite> ok, I was just being silly.  Evilpig reminded me that I can boot up a live Linux CD and export the C: drive via samba...  then run regedit from another Windows machine
11:03 <@Shadow_Phone> Psyiode: i locked the topic, so you have to open a new topic in the board
11:04 <@Dolemite> Hrmm, I wonder what Evilpig's traffic graphs are going to look like when he gets back to the office
11:04 <@Psyiode> ok i posted
11:04 <@Dolemite> I'm pulling at about 890 KB/s
11:04 <@Dolemite> doh, back down to around 450 KB/s
11:04 <@Evilpig> i do that often 
11:04 <@Dolemite> I remember that one time that we maxed out your pipe transferring videos
11:05 <@Evilpig> look under microsoft and get my windows autoinstall also dolemite
11:05 <@Dolemite> snagging it right now
11:05 <@Shadow_Phone> Psyiode: lawl
11:06 <@Psyiode> :)
11:06 <@Evilpig> fair warning it wipes the drive automagically
11:07 <@Dolemite> heh, okey dokey
11:07 <@Dolemite> In that case I don't need/want it
11:07 <@Evilpig> have fun with it at phreaknic. redo someone's machine if they leave it sitting out
11:12 <@Dolemite> I'll leave that to you for fun
11:13 <@Dolemite> That's another reason I've enabled the fingerprint reader in BIOS for booting up my laptop
11:18 <@baudburn> http://baudburn.thesupernicety.com/MacWall.jpg
11:21 <@Dolemite> GHEY
11:21 <@Dolemite> You could at least rotate it clockwise 90 degrees before uploading
11:21 <@baudburn> i could, but i didn't
11:21 <@Dolemite> Therefore 'tis GHEY
11:22 <@baudburn> i can live with that
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11:26 <@Evilpig> baudburn: where you buying me dinner at?
11:26 <@baudburn> Evilpig: got a preference?
11:27 <@Dolemite> Baudburn's House of Ramen
11:27 <@Evilpig> food
11:27 <@tcstool> Baudburn's house of Ramen...awesome
11:27 <@baudburn> heh
11:28 <@baudburn> Evilpig: we'll decide when we get there then..
11:28 <@Evilpig> hrmmm my 5th gear is acting up i better get it looked at
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11:28 <@baudburn> i believe the original agreement was for sushi, and i know a few of those places
11:29 <@baudburn> there's also thai food, chinese food, etc
11:29 <@tcstool> Or non-asian food
11:29 <@Evilpig> mmm sushi is good
11:30 <@baudburn> yeah, but non-asian food mostly sucks
11:30 <@baudburn> :)
11:31 <@Dolemite> I went to a new Japanese restaurant in Smyrna last night and have to admit that I actually liked it.  Most of the ones in the US are overpriced and have shitty selections outside of sushi.
11:31 <@tcstool> This is true
11:31 <@tcstool> Dolemite:  Have you ever eaten at the one in Cookeville
11:31 <@Dolemite> I did back in the early 90s *cough*
11:31 <@baudburn> Dolemite: there's a 24 hour shop thats walking distance from my place that's awesome
11:32 <@tcstool> My friend's wife is the manager there
11:32 <@tcstool> It's pretty good I think
11:32 <@Dolemite> But I much prefer Chinese to Japanese
11:32 <@tcstool> Agreed, japanese is hit or miss with me
11:32 <@wizardPC> does comcast block port 25?
11:33 <@Dolemite> wizardPC : Yah, so does AT&T
11:33 <@wizardPC> dammit
11:33 <@Dolemite> It's to keep people from trying to run a server on their residential DSL account
11:33 <@Dolemite> heh
11:33 <@Dolemite> or residential cable modem account
11:34 <@SkyDog_> Use port 587.
11:34 <@wizardPC> yeah, exactly wat im trying to do
11:34 <@Dolemite> well stop it, evildoer!
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11:34 <@tcstool> Frontier blocks it too
11:35 <@tcstool> I had to set up a smart host to relay through smtp.frontiernet.net
11:35 <@Dolemite> yeah, that's the easiest thing to do
11:35 <@tcstool> yeah
11:35 <@wizardPC> k ive done that before at work
11:35 <@Dolemite> Plus there are so many blacklists that go ahead and black out all of the reverse DNS entries that designate consumer service, you end up bouncing more than you send, anyway
11:36 <@Dolemite> Even the nuvox connection at the days inn is on blacklists, so I have to smarthost through nuvox
11:38 <@tcstool> Yeah a lot of blacklists are blocking dynamic IPs now
11:38 <@Dolemite> these aren't even dynamic
11:39 <@Evilpig> m  summm sushi
11:39 <@tcstool> Are they class C subnets?
11:39 <@tcstool> We've seen that one a lot too
11:39 <@Evilpig> cell service in west tn blows
11:39 <@Dolemite> you mean is it a /24?
11:39 <@Dolemite> No, it's a /28
11:42 <@tcstool> Yeah
11:42 <@tcstool> Ben Lomand in sparta is /24
11:42 <@tcstool> and a lot of their customers, even with statics, have wound up blacklisted because of it
11:42 <@tcstool> I guess maybe a /24 looks spoofed?
11:42 <@Dolemite> Well nuvox has way more IPs than the /28.  It's the hotel that has a /28.
11:43 <@Dolemite> Anywho, it's gotten to the point with spam blacklists that you pretty much have to smarthost these days
11:43 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : You done up at Skyline yet?
11:44 <@tcstool> Yeah, agreed
11:44 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Not yet. soon.
11:44 <@Dolemite> Ok, just making sure that you weren't about to say, "Well, I haven't made it there yet..."
11:50 <@Dolemite> ok, I'm heading over to AccuTech
11:50 <@Dolemite> Maybe I'll see you there
11:52 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: if you have a static you can register it at many of hte blacklist sites
11:52 <@Evilpig> spamcop or something like that had my range blocked cause of MES's upstream provider.  but I went in and whitelisted my servers 
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11:57 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.nypost.com/seven/10122007/business/two_in_the_sac.htm
11:59 <@Dolemite> Actually change of plans.  Waiting until one more analyst shows up and then Mirage and I can ride together.
12:00 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : Yeah, but new lists come out and it's a pain in the ass
12:00 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/30/40/30_40graffitigirl.html
12:02 <@tcstool> Dolemite:  Yeah, plus you always get the one guy who the owner of the company is trying to email whose unqualified sys admin uses blars or something stupid like that
12:03 <@Dagmar> I like the quote from the father at the end
12:04 <@wizardPC> so if those traders went to massachusetts and got married, would he then become Ping Tong?
12:10 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardPC: looks like both of them are already married
12:14 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-dig: I looked at the direct feed last night.  and it has a time stamp in it.  but the perl module isn't reading it right.  :-/
12:26 <@baudburn> does 1200 sound like a lot to change a clutch to you all?
12:26 <@baudburn> cause it does to me.
12:27 <@Evilpig> I think I paid around 600
12:28 <@baudburn> 600 sounds more like what my reseach says it should cost
12:28 <@critch> baudburn: what in?
12:28 <@baudburn> Subaru wrx
12:28 <@baudburn> i'm not even sure i t needs it
12:28 <@baudburn> they're saying the clutch doesn't engage till near the top of the stroke
12:28 <@critch> slipping?
12:28 <@baudburn> but i've never noticed that
12:28 <@baudburn> no, not that I or barbara are aware of.
12:28 <@critch> If it doesn't engage till that far up, it may be worn
12:28 <@baudburn> they say that
12:28 <@baudburn> i've never noticed that.
12:28 <@critch> It may be about to start slipping.
12:29 <@baudburn> even still, 1200 sounds like an assload
12:30 <@baudburn> unless anyone else has experice to the contrary?
12:30 <@critch> Well, you have to split the engine and transmission. Then you have to make enough space between the two to work
12:31 <@critch> I would suggest calling the dealer up and asking what "book time for R&R of the clutch" is. That book time times hourly rate should be labour, then you add on parts.
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13:07 <@ladymerlin> whee
13:07 <@Evilpig> http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/engimountreagents.jpg
13:07 <@Evilpig> wtf was blizzard thinking?
13:08 <@Evilpig> look at teh requirements for the flying machine
13:08 <@Evilpig> hula girl doll?
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13:13 <@rhia> classic WWII pilot's toy
13:14 <@baudburn> hmm
13:14 <@baudburn> i wonder if canada post tracking will continue to track while in the us
13:15 <@baudburn> anyone have any experince with that?
13:15 <@Evilpig> did y'all see this yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NcIJXTlugc
13:15 <@critch> yep, about a month or more ago, pretty sweet
13:16 <+MaxieZ> wow
13:17 <@Evilpig> the demonstration with the guys on the beach is just wow...
13:20 <@baudburn> yeah, you would like a demonstration with guys on a beach
13:20 <@Evilpig> when they just disappear completely...  that's something
13:21 <@Evilpig> frightening really
13:21 <@wizardPC> I just went to target in brentwood....they have the new boost phones now
13:21 <@baudburn> yah, its pretty crazy
13:21 <@wizardPC> they are teh sexy
13:23 <@ladymerlin> how much are thay?
13:23 <@ladymerlin> they
13:23 <@critch> baudburn: Was the $1200 quote for labour or final bill?
13:23 <@ladymerlin> i need to pick up a boost card tonight
13:23 <@baudburn> critch: final bill, i think
13:23 <@wizardPC> $40
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13:23 <@wizardPC> they are like 1/4" thick and have a mini-usb port
13:24 <@critch> baudburn: Then that isn't very unrealistic. You are going to pay for about 8 hours of labor plus parts
13:24 <@ladymerlin> hrmm...i might jsut buy one of those
13:24 <@ladymerlin> lol i was ognna get the 30 doller card anyway
13:24 <@baudburn> myabe, i'll get a second opinion though cause the intarwebs say it should only be around 6-700
13:24 <@wizardPC> i dont have confirmation that mologogo works on these new phones
13:24 <@baudburn> and i'm not convinced its even necessary at this point
13:25 <@critch> yeah, 6-700 plus parts
13:25 <@ladymerlin> ahh ok
13:25 <@baudburn> maybe so
13:25 <@baudburn> tahnks for the advice though dude
13:26 <@critch> baudburn: subaru will charge 5 hours book time for clutch replacement
13:26 <@critch> So whatever labor rate is * 5 hours for labor charge, plus parts
13:27 <@critch> http://www.iwsti.com/forums/drivetrain-components/90075-price-clutch-replacement.html
13:32 <@baudburn> cool
13:32 <@baudburn> thanks for the reference
13:32 <@baudburn> i need to establish that there actually is a problem
13:33 <@critch> if you replace the clutch, are you thinking about going with a better than stock version
13:33 <@critch> baudburn: the problem with waiting till you feel the slip is that it will slip soo bad that you will be left on the side of the road
13:34 <@baudburn> i wasn't thinking of going to anything better than stock, no
13:34 <@critch> how many miles do you have on the car?
13:34 <@baudburn> i think its at about 70k, so it woudln't be unheard of to need a new clutch
13:35 <@critch> yeah, it could be primarily you need a new pressure plate, but as the pressure plate wears, you wear the disc as well, so might as well replace both at the same time.
13:35 <@critch> Well, more you wear the springs in the pressure plate over time.
13:36 <@baudburn> yeah
13:36 <@baudburn> i'm just not sure
13:37 <@baudburn> i dont think i trust them
13:37 <@baudburn> for changing my oil, yes
13:37 <@baudburn> but something just smells
13:39 <@baudburn> http://www.mymoneyblog.com/archives/2007/10/treating-marriage-as-a-business-relationship.html
13:39 <@baudburn> ~minilink
13:39 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/mymoneyblog.com/SvUay.html
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13:49 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  the HD on my windows server might just be toast
13:49 <@Evilpig> trying to run a chkdsk /r on it.  and it seems hung before it even started scanning
13:51 <@ware> http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v135/21/99/667821475/n667821475_202311_680.jpg
13:56 <@Dementia> gremlins
14:28 <@Dolemite> ware : Get thine ass a job!
14:29 <@rhia> yeah, at least his donkey could be making money
14:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: when are you heading over to Francis?
14:29 <@ladymerlin> hey doel hear anyhting about the shirts yet?
14:29 <@ladymerlin> dole even
14:30 <@Corydon76-dig> ladymerlin: precisely what I asked ;-)
14:30 <@Dolemite> Jesus, people!
14:30 <@ladymerlin> oh lol
14:30 <@Dolemite> Shirts won't be ready until 4.
14:30  * Corydon76-dig has a hankering for his hoodies
14:31 <@Dolemite> hoodies?  Oh, no, I cancelled those.
14:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Funnay
14:47 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : You back online yet?
14:47 <@Dolemite> Who's gonna grab all these shirts?
14:49 <@Dolemite> Well I'm heading over to grab the schwag right now, then I'll have to go back and get the shirts, I guess.
14:51 <@critch> can't help out right now, not enough cargo space in the bike
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14:59 <@Mirage> http://youtube.com/watch?v=zpTJISyKGrA
15:04 <@rhia> dayum
15:05 <@Mirage> this one's pretty amazing too: http://youtube.com/watch?v=X76ZIGQgBWg
15:06 <@rhia> that tiger crew is really good
15:06 <@Mirage> for sure..it's a great effect, though i think someone had entirely too much time on theirs hands figuring that all out
15:07 <@Evilpig> http://www.wilpig.org/~wilbur/webcam/axislive.html
15:07 <@Evilpig> someone fix my 2003 server.  pretty sure the drive is toast
15:12 <@Mirage> hal.dll is needed for something?
15:13 <@ShadowHntr> ummm... yeah?
15:13 <@Evilpig> generally the hardware layer is required for operation
15:13 <@ShadowHntr> hardware abstraction layer
15:13 <@Mirage> Evilpig: I was being psuedo-funny
15:13 <@Evilpig> failed
15:14 <@Evilpig> you should kill yourself from the shame
15:14  * Mirage smacks ShadowHntr, "I know wtf the hal is"
15:14 <@ShadowHntr> fuck off.
15:14 <@Evilpig> Mirage you gonna take that?
15:14  * Mirage taunts ShadowHntr with a scsi controller
15:14 <@ShadowHntr> lol
15:14  * ShadowHntr taunts ware with a job
15:14 <@Evilpig> hey hey hey.  don't poke the circus act
15:15 <@Mirage> Evilpig: that on a single disk or on a mirror/array?
15:15 <@ShadowHntr> Mirage: i don't remember you saying you had one anyway, so how would you taunt me with one
15:15 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
15:16 <@Evilpig> the OS is a single disk.  I am gonna run back to the office and get a CD to get my midget pr0n off there via the network.  then i'll just format the disk
15:16 <@Evilpig> I have a scsi controller.  just not a compaq one.
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15:16 <@Mirage> ShadowHntr: Actually I threw away 5 old raid controllers two weeks ago
15:16 <@Evilpig> in fact that mobo has a zero channel raid controller.  if I would buy the controller.
15:17 <@someninjamaster> and im back
15:18 <@Mirage> Evilpig: If I'd known that, I just tossed the adaptec for the old dual xeon box.  it was an adaptec 7800 series something
15:18 <@Mirage> i think
15:18 <@Evilpig> only two scsi devices I have in that box are my old plextor cd burner and a zip100 drive
15:19 <@Evilpig> the raid array is ide.  and the other CD drives are IDE as well as the boot drive
15:19 <@someninjamaster> it took me 2 and a half hours to get out of atlanta
15:19 <@Mirage> Ah. I trashed the board because one of the onboard channels was bad, but the raid5 bios came up, which was off the add-on card
15:30 <@Dolemite> I now have in my possession...
15:30 <@Dolemite> most of the components for 350+ pieces of this year's schwag
15:30 <@Dolemite> muahahahahaha
15:36 <@someninjamaster> wtf buy.com denyed my claim
15:36 <@someninjamaster> for something they didnt ship
15:36 <@someninjamaster> and now the credit card charge will be contested
15:36 <@someninjamaster> and i will be calling the bbb
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16:11 <@Evilpig> components?  as in requires assembly?  are you insane?
16:16 <@Evilpig> i'll be damned.  they've already beaten almost all of the new instance that wow just put on the test realm yesterday
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16:22 <@tcstool> ware: you around?
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16:39 <@devemo> Afternoon
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16:46 < polerin> SkyDog_: ping
16:46 < polerin> having issues?
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16:47 <@ladymerlin> whee and stuff
16:52 <@critch> or should that be wee in stuff
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17:07 <@devemo> yay for netsplits
17:08 <@Evilpig> at least they tell us when it is gonna happen unlike undernet when it just happened all the time at random
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18:05 <@someninjamaster> could someone repost that link wizardpc had of guns for diffrent parts of town
18:05 <@Mirage> http://crash.is-a-geek.com/pictures/Carry_weapons.JPG
18:06 <@someninjamaster> thanks
18:08 <@Mirage> http://content3.i-am-bored.com/games/28223_kittycat.swf
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18:09 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: we need to complete that with a hunting knife at the very bottom:  "Shelbyville"
18:10 <@Mirage> and a BlackJack for Pulaski?
18:10 <@Mirage> (on a white hat)
18:10 <@Mirage> Maybe a noose
18:16 <@SkyDog_> Evening all.
18:19 <@strages> evenin
18:19 <@SkyDog_> Yo.
18:34 <@devemo> hey SkyDog_
18:38 <@SkyDog_> Yo.
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18:58 <@Mirage> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfpSXI8_UpY&NR=1
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20:02 <@sdodson> Dagmar: things to in mm prior to Linus's tree or the other way around?
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20:10 <@SkyDog_> woohoo! get to go do work at Al Gore's place tomorrow... On a Saturday... fuck.
20:11 <@sdodson> Lots of people seem unahppy with his nobel.
20:11 <@SkyDog_> Really? I have not read about it. What is the hubub?
20:11 <@sasquatc4> make sure to get a picture with the prize
20:12 <@SkyDog_> He won't be on the ground until 4:45 tomorrow, so I probably won't see him.
20:13 <@SkyDog_> I've only been in the residence 3-4 times when he was home.
20:13 <@SkyDog_> Most of the time, he's elsewhere when I am there.
20:13 <@sasquatc4> youd think he'd want to be there to see the IT work being done, seeing as how he invented the industry and all
20:14 <@Corydon76-dig> s/industry/internet/
20:14 <@SkyDog_> he invented the internet...
20:15 <@SkyDog_> I have read where that all came from...
20:15 <@SkyDog_> sdodson: What was their argument?
20:15 <@Corydon76-dig> He was specifically taking credit for the funding decision that made Arpanet -> Internet
20:16 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: Correct.
20:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Before that time, you weren't allowed on unless you were military or educational
20:16 <@SkyDog_> He signed the bill, or whatever that is referred to.
20:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Now commercial dominates the Internet
20:16 <@Corydon76-dig> before, it was entirely excluded
20:17 <@SkyDog_> I am glad he signed it... I prefer my porn delievered digitally.
20:17 <@Corydon76-dig> I think it was more along the lines that he introduced the bill
20:18 <@SkyDog_> I have had a drink this evening, so I don't recall exactly.
20:18 <@SkyDog_> nor do I care.
20:18 <@sdodson> SkyDog_: I forget exactly.  I heard it on the way into work.
20:18 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: Going to meet with gabriel tomorrow at JJ's at 10:00am to discuss the HC.
20:19 <@sasquatc4> didnt mean to spawn all that from a joke
20:19 <@SkyDog_> sdodson: Well, I am sure that Jarvik caught some hell for the artificial heart, and that sony is the devil for the walkman.
20:20 <@SkyDog_> sasquatc4: Nah, most people don't know where it originated from.
20:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Most people just assume Gore was being a 'tard
20:20 <@SkyDog_> I wanted to get a bit of video of him holding a drink with a piece of cat5 as a swizzle stick.
20:20 <@sasquatc4> i always figured it was a misquote or taken out of context, never bothered to look it up
20:20 <@SkyDog_> Dole and I have tried for 3 years to make that happen.
20:22 <@sdodson> It's pretty much like the 640k bit
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20:51 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: when's the Tshirt rolling party?
20:52 <@SkyDog_> Hmmm. I dunno. We're gonna roll some this weekend, and whatever is left we can roll this week.
20:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Saturday sometime, maybe?
20:54 <@SkyDog_> Well, I have to meet with gabriel and then with al's people. Possibly.
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21:30 <@wontonjoe> afternoon
21:30 <@Mirage> somewhere
21:31 <@wontonjoe> indeed
21:31 <@wontonjoe> its actually morning for me
21:31 <@wontonjoe> 9pm sharp was worktime
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22:17 <@wontonjoe> hay are rooms a problem at pn this year, ive never had a problem just showing up before
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22:25 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: every year, we've sold out earlier and earlier.  We will probably sell out before 10 am Friday
22:25 <@wontonjoe> oh ya thats why i show up early
22:26 <@wontonjoe> oh well worst case i drive an hour home if i get no crash space, not worried never have been
22:26 <@sdodson> i'm worried :(
22:26 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: the Ramada is just down the street
22:26 <@sdodson> My car wouldn't shift into 5th gear today.
22:27 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: that is the official overflow hotel
22:27 <@Mirage> Owned by the same person that has the Days Inn
22:28 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: of course, you could always stay in my room... ;-)
22:29 <@sdodson> It hasn't happened since I parked it and shut it off. I hope nothing is fucked :(
22:30 <+coil> sdodson, i fucked up my car today :(
22:31 <@nachoguy> ahoy
22:32 <@sdodson> I'm going to take it to the dealer anyway and demand they look at it.
22:33 <@sdodson> hope it's not related to the wee bit of air i got the other day over one bump
22:33 <+coil> i wish insurance would cover my stupidity
22:33 <+coil> but then i would be in a world of hurt
22:34 <@someninjamaster> evening all
22:34 <+coil> cuz you're suppost to pay a higher rate if you delivery...
22:34 <+coil> and i can't sue a pole...
22:34 <@sdodson> lolz you ran into a pole?
22:34 <+coil> no
22:34 <+coil> it sideswiped me
22:34 <+coil> hahaha
22:34 <@sdodson> stfu
22:34 <+coil> fucking apt complexes and their damn gates
22:35 <@sdodson> hahaha
22:35 <@sdodson> is there a lot of pressure on delivery drivers to be fast?
22:35 <+coil> for the most part
22:35 <+coil> esp if it's busy
22:35 <+coil> so yeah i was rushing
22:35 <@sdodson> sucks
22:35 <+coil> probably 500-1000 in damage...
22:36 <@Mirage> I had to pay 'artisan' rates for years doing outside service..what's the problem?
22:36 <@sdodson> outside service?
22:36 <@Mirage> Of course in the past 18 yrs I've only been in 1 wreck.
22:36 <+coil> i dont have money?
22:36 <+coil> i've never been in a wreck or had a ticket
22:37 <+coil> that's the first thing i've hit
22:37 <@Mirage> sdodson: never heard of outside service?
22:37 <@sdodson> no?
22:37 <@sdodson> Is this a trick question?
22:37 <@Mirage> what do you call techs going to customer sites for service calls?
22:37 <+coil> ~google for outside service
22:37 <+MxZBot> Google says outside service is at http://www.news.com/Facebook-welcomes-outside-services/2100-1038_3-6186471.html or http://www.outsideservice.com/ or http://www.units.muohio.edu/aao/forms/documents/Request_Perform_Outside_Svc.pdf
22:37 <@sdodson> onsite service?
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22:38 <@Mirage> so instead of outside/inside you call it onsite/in-house?
22:38 <@sdodson> I dunno. I'd just never heard of outside service.
22:39 <@sdodson> I thought maybe you meant like hooking up cable boxes or something, like outdoors.
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22:39 <+coil> i've seen some fucked up time warner trucks, looks like they hit a few more poles then i did...
22:40 <@sdodson> but it's a van :(
22:40 <+coil> van truck same thing
22:40 <+coil> same frame
22:40 <@sdodson> right but it's not theirs
22:40 <+coil> then whos is it
22:41 <@sdodson> So you ran into a pole with like a pizza hut automobile or your personal automobile?
22:42 <+coil> my own car. :(
22:42 <+coil> i didn't ran in to it
22:42 <@sdodson> so what i'm saying is that their van may be fucked but it's not the driver's van so it doesn't matter
22:42 <+coil> it hit on the side backing up
22:42 <+coil> cuz i cut the wheel too early cuz i didn't see the pole
22:43 <@dasunt> Hmmmm.
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23:32 <@SkyDog_> Yawn...
23:32 <@someninjamaster> yo
23:32 <@SkyDog_> yo.
23:32 <+coil> sup./
23:33 <@SkyDog_> PIcked up the stuff for the "impromtu" contest I am putting on.
23:34 <@someninjamaster> is that the non phreaknic affilated wifi race
23:34 <@ShadowHntr> sup SkyDog_
23:34 <@ShadowHntr> how are things on the HC front
23:35 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: Nope.
23:35 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: Not too bad. Another meeting tomorrow to discuss it.
23:35 <@ShadowHntr> cool
23:36 <@SkyDog_> saw some decent space on THursday, and looking at some more on Monday.
23:37 <@ShadowHntr> i just finished my new hire packet
23:37 <@ShadowHntr> all but the direct deposit paperwork
23:37 <@ShadowHntr> cause it's gonna be a bitch to find checks
23:37 <@ShadowHntr> :P
23:38 <@Mirage> http://xkcd.com/327/
23:39 <@someninjamaster> haha
23:39 <@someninjamaster> nice
23:40 <@SkyDog_> http://xkcd.com/327/
23:40 <+coil> omg SkyDog_ that's 2 mins too old!!!
23:41 <@SkyDog_> Sorry, was juggling my laptop and right clicked.
23:42 <@SkyDog_> and that was less that 2 mins.
23:43 <+coil> sorry my fucking bad 1 min and 55 secs
23:44 <@SkyDog_> Yes. Hey, do you plan on being a cunt all night?
23:45 <+coil> do you plan on being a cunt all the time?
23:45 <+coil> i thought so
23:45 <@SkyDog_> All night.
23:45 <@SkyDog_> Not all the time.
23:46 <@SkyDog_> Ok, I know I am bored. I bought a smoke machine tonight.
23:47 <+coil> no smoking allowed
23:47 <@Mirage> home depot?
23:47 <@SkyDog_> Um. The devil.
23:47 <@SkyDog_> Walmart.
23:48 <@Mirage> Sarah was pointing one out at HD the other eve
23:48 <@someninjamaster> skydog what size
23:48 <@SkyDog_> I paid $20 for it, and $10 for a bottle of juice.
23:48 <@Mirage> whatever he says, divide by two
23:48 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: It's fucking huge!
23:48 <@someninjamaster> whats the wattage on it
23:48 <@SkyDog_> It's about a foot long.
23:48 <@SkyDog_> Sigh.
23:49 <@SkyDog_> 400 Watt.
23:49 <@someninjamaster> thats a good size
23:49 <@SkyDog_> It's cheep, and it's a toy....
23:50 <@someninjamaster> my first one was a 400
23:50 <@someninjamaster> then when it burned out i moved up to a 700
23:50 <@ShadowHntr> fog machines are fun
23:50 <@ShadowHntr> :]
23:51 <@someninjamaster> skydog what color is your fog juice
23:51 <@SkyDog_> Clear.
23:51 <@someninjamaster> good
23:51 <@SkyDog_> I just bought it to mess with.
23:51 <@someninjamaster> only buy the clear
23:51 <@SkyDog_> Why is that?
23:51 <@someninjamaster> you can use the pink
23:51 <@someninjamaster> but you need to get some nozzle cleaner if you do
23:52 <@ShadowHntr> pink elephants !
23:52 <@someninjamaster> because it will clog up the nozzle
23:52 <@SkyDog_> What the hell would you want pink smoke for?
23:52 <@someninjamaster> its white smoke
23:52 <+coil> insert corydon joke
23:52 <@someninjamaster> but the fog juice is pink
23:53 <@someninjamaster> this is what i have
23:53 <@someninjamaster> http://www.americandj.com/product.asp?ProductIDNumber=1392&cat=LightPackages
23:53 <@someninjamaster> i want one of these http://www.americandj.com/product.asp?ProductIDNumber=1332&cat=Fog_Haze_Machines
23:54 <@ShadowHntr> FOAM PARTY !
23:54 <@ShadowHntr> :D
23:55 <@SkyDog_> woohoo!
23:55 <@SkyDog_> What does it do, filter the smoke across the ice?
23:56 <@someninjamaster> when the fog will sink when it gets cold
23:57 <@someninjamaster> which is cool sometimes
23:57 <@someninjamaster> othertimes you want it to fill the entire room
23:57 <@someninjamaster> such as when a coworker is sleeping in his office and you pipe the fogmachine into the ac ducts
23:58 <@SkyDog_> funny...
23:58 <@ShadowHntr> lol
23:58 <@ShadowHntr> sounds like fun.
23:58 <@someninjamaster> that 700 can fill a normal size office to the point you cant see your hand infront of your face in about a minute and a half
23:59 <@Mirage> gives me a headache just thinking about it
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