--- Log opened Thu Oct 11 00:00:14 2007
00:00 <@sasquatc4> tho i dunno if i woulda gotten it if i didnt have HD service for free
00:01 <@dasunt> I've been debating it isntead of a bigscreen.
00:01 <@dasunt> Since the projectors can be found for $500-$1000 now.
00:01 <@dasunt> And remote-controlled screens aren't too badly expensive.
00:09 <@sasquatc4> yea well i went with fixed frame on this one, cause there can be issues with automatic and rollup screens
00:09 <@sasquatc4> tho sometimes i do wish i had a remote screen, just for pure pimp factor
00:11 <@dasunt> *nods*
00:11 <@dasunt> The remote screen is utter pimp.
00:11 <@dasunt> Especially with a ceiling-mounted projector.
00:11 <+coil> wish my projector still worked
00:12 <+coil> but you guys gotta account for the power it uses also
00:12 <+coil> it doesn't just use a watt, you know...
00:12 <@sasquatc4> yea, i had to go with shelf mounted for this one, since im always movin from apt to apt, i cant really mount, and dlp's have a really limited range of movement as far as placement can go
00:12 <@sasquatc4> mainly why i went with lcd, if it wasnt for the limited range of motion i woulda gone dlp all the way
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00:15 <@sasquatc4> they arent too much worse than a 60in tv, those can go from 200-300watts, and these are usually 200-400
00:15 <+coil> thats a lot
00:15 <+coil> and the heat factor
00:15 <+coil> more cooling
00:16 <@sasquatc4> actually mines alot less, just looked it up, 240w max, but thats pumpin full output, im usually half that
00:16 <@sasquatc4> so its actually less to power than a comparable 60in hdtv
00:17 <+coil> well mine used up a lot of power
00:17 <+coil> and heat
00:18 <@sasquatc4> yea, older ones prolly do, and depends on what settings you run them on
00:19 <+coil> mine was on power saver
00:19 <+coil> and it wasn't /that/ old
00:19 <@dasunt> I'm in Minnesota.  For about 5 months out of the year, the heat factor is a plus.  :p
00:20 <@ShadowHntr> well
00:20 <@ShadowHntr> time for bed here
00:20 <@ShadowHntr> catch ya'll tomorrow
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00:21 <@sasquatc4> dasunt: exactly, this thing, since its behind the couch, will keep me warm in the winter, half the time dont even turn on the fireplace
00:21 <@sasquatc4> http://www.projectorpeople.com/projectors/projdtls.asp?itemid=21364&itmname=Epson+Pro+Cinema+800
00:21 <@sasquatc4> thats my baby right now, surprised it still costs the same as when i bought it, but i also got mine from an importer, who gets them from japan, and epson has fucked up pricing schemes where they charge the usa 2x the price of the rest of the world for half their shit
00:22 <@dasunt> Well, I should apartment hunt tomorrow.
00:22 <@dasunt> Have to convince potential landlords that just because I have two cats, I don't desire to have my possessions shredded and to reak of cat piss.
00:23 <@sasquatc4> hehe
00:23 <@sasquatc4> well, if your lookin, that place is a pretty good place to shop, they usually had good prices, on standalones and complete packages, i woulda bought from there until i found the importer
00:23 <@dasunt> In related news, I'm rethinking the idea that committing people should be hard.
00:23 <@dasunt> Renting with pets is like pulling teeth.
00:24 <+coil> most places i've dealth with is that you just gotta pay a pet deposit
00:24 <@dasunt> I seme to have people rejecting me because they don't want the place to stink of cat urine.
00:24 <@dasunt> Er, hello.
00:24 <@dasunt> I have a litter box, the cats use it.
00:24 <@sasquatc4> yea, thats how it is here too, but i think along with the deposit alot of places will charge you extra each month
00:24 <@dasunt> I clean it.
00:24 <+coil> wow
00:25 <+coil> my fucking roommates are lazy and dont clean it
00:25 <+coil> theres piles of cat shit
00:25 <+coil> then the cats dont even fucking even try to cover it up
00:25 <+coil> so it fucking smells like shit
00:25 <+coil> i hate cats
00:26 <@dasunt> coil: KILL THEM.
00:26 <@dasunt> The roommates, not the cat.
00:27 <+coil> cats
00:27 <+coil> theres 3 cats and 7 kittens.
00:27 <+coil> and the kittens shit and piss on the carpet
00:27 <@sasquatc4> yea, definetly kill the cats
00:27 <+coil> which fucking pisses me off even more
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00:27 <+coil> brand new fucking carpet
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01:15 <@Psyiode> i hear kitten stew is pretty good
01:16 <@Corydon76-dig> You heard wrong
01:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Cat meat is gamey
01:16 <@Corydon76-dig> err, so I've heard
01:16 <@Psyiode> well im glad i didnt buy the meal
01:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Dog, on the other hand...
01:17 <@Psyiode> been there, probably had that
01:17 <@Psyiode> island life
01:19 <@Corydon76-dig> You could eat cat if you were starving
01:19 <@Psyiode> i would eat anything if i was starving probably
01:19 <@Corydon76-dig> orly?
01:19 <@Psyiode> yeah i realized how that sounded and who i was talking to after i said that
01:19 <@Psyiode> haha
01:20 <@Corydon76-dig> We'll miss having you and your blue hair at PN this year
01:21 <@Psyiode> what follishness are you speaking of
01:21 <@Psyiode> i will be there sans blue hair
01:21 <@Corydon76-dig> You will?
01:21 <@Psyiode> yah i fly in 2pm on friday
01:21 <@Corydon76-dig> I missed your prereg
01:22 <@Psyiode> yeah uh you missed it
01:22 <@Psyiode> or i didnt get it in
01:22 <@Psyiode> but oh wells
01:22 <@Psyiode> more money for the cause!
01:22 <@Corydon76-dig> You have 40 minutes left
01:22 <@Psyiode> i cant do it atm, its cool
01:22 <@Psyiode> its nice if roomates pay you rent...
01:22 <@Corydon76-dig> No CC?
01:23 <@Psyiode> atm moment it would cost me more than at the door
01:23 <@Psyiode> its quite alright
01:23 <@Psyiode> i DO need to make a reservation with the hotel
01:23 <@Psyiode> ive been putting that off too long
01:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
01:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Okey doke
01:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Quite.  You wait too long and you'll have to share space with me.  ;-)
01:36 <@Corydon76-dig> On second thought, wait a bit.
01:39 <@Psyiode> hah yeah i think ill be alright
01:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Of course you will.  I'm nothing if not a sweet generous man
01:40 <@Psyiode> right
01:40 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm quite willing to give you many different things
01:41 <@Psyiode> good to know
02:03 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: Am I using your real name, or corydon for your name in the program?
02:06 <@Psyiode> im down with having my projector up for grabs for anything
02:06 <@Psyiode> as long as it doesnt walk off
02:08 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, I understand that.
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07:58 <@dc0de> mr0nin all
07:59 <@dc0de> what's a good command line serial console? minicom? (for linux)
08:04 <@dc0de> anyone? beuller?
08:06 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:09 <@dc0de> morning Dolemite
08:09 <@dc0de> hey, can you help me with a linux/serial port question?
08:09 <@dc0de> trying to use our linux boxen as serial consoles to hardware devices, like serial to a router/switch...
08:10 <@dc0de> and I'm wondering what the "best" serial application at the command line for linux is... in your opinion... (not looking to start a flame war
08:10 <@dc0de> (
08:10 <@dc0de> )
08:14 <@Dolemite> I've really only used minicom for console based stuff
08:17 <@dc0de> ok... that's where I was leaning...
08:20 <@dc0de> off to the office....
08:20 <@dc0de> l8r
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08:25 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: use Corydon76 in the program
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09:07 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
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09:53 <@ShadowHntr> *ping*
09:53 <@ShadowHntr> damn
09:53 <@ShadowHntr> i wouldn't be surprised if this cluster scan takes >60 hours
09:55 <@nachoguy> what're you scanning?
10:00 <@ShadowHntr> 300gb hard disk
10:00 <@ShadowHntr> partition table got fucked up
10:00 <@ShadowHntr> but the data's intact
10:00 <@ShadowHntr> 13.5 hrs elapsed
10:00 <@ShadowHntr> 39 hrs remaining
10:00 < poiupoiu> oooh, nasty
10:01 <@ShadowHntr> when i started the scan, it projected 48 hours
10:02 <@ShadowHntr> but i figured there would be some hurdles when i built the new workstation
10:02 <@ShadowHntr> it is rather nice. =)
10:02 <@ShadowHntr> AMD Opteron 1210 (dual-core 1.8GHz)
10:02 <@ShadowHntr> 4GB RAM
10:03 <@ShadowHntr> will be setting up dual boot windows xp 32-bit and fedora 64-bit once i move all the data off these drives
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10:23 <@ShadowHntr> sup critch
10:23 <@critch> ugghh, looks like beep fucked up lastnight and opened a ton of UDP ports. Shut down the ability of anything on my box to do DNS lookups.
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10:29 <@nachoguy> beep?
10:29 <@ShadowHntr> the music player?
10:30 <@dc0de> honk
10:31 <@critch> yep
10:50 <@ShadowHntr> lol
10:50 <@ShadowHntr> the history of computer microprocessors in the past 10 years can be amusing hehehe
10:50 <@ShadowHntr> the codename for the AMD K6-2 processor was Chomper
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11:01 <@ShadowHntr> damn
11:01 <@ShadowHntr> more like 60 hours to do this cluster scan
11:03 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: Um, tell us when it's done, ok? Jebus.
11:04 <@ShadowHntr> lol SkyDog_ sorry
11:04 <@ShadowHntr> this is just the craziest thing i've seen in a while
11:04 <@ShadowHntr> =)
11:04 <@ladymerlin> if i dont get resonces from people tonight then im not worign around anythign they wanna see
11:04 <@ladymerlin> for voulnteers
11:04 <@ShadowHntr> dyslexic this morning, ladymerlin? j/k
11:05  * ShadowHntr offers some coffee
11:05 <@ladymerlin> well considerign i am dyslexic....alwayse
11:05 <@ladymerlin> coffee would be good
11:05 <@ShadowHntr> didn't know that - my bad
11:05 <@ShadowHntr> ladymerlin: does the office have a cafeteria or just a vending room
11:06 <@SkyDog_> It has a microwave on a tea cart. You have to sign up for it in advance.
11:06 <@ShadowHntr> lol skydog
11:06 <@ladymerlin> haha
11:07 <@ladymerlin> theres a large break room onthe 1st floor
11:07 <@ladymerlin> and smaller ones on every floor
11:07 <@SkyDog_> That's where the tea cart is.
11:07 <@SkyDog_> Write legibly, please.
11:07 <@ladymerlin> with every possable kind of tea/coffee you could ever want
11:07 <@ShadowHntr> awesome
11:07 <@SkyDog_> You are allowed two packet of sugar a week.
11:07 <@ShadowHntr> ha !
11:08  * ShadowHntr will bring in a 12-pack of pepsi or dr. pepper every week ;)
11:08 <@SkyDog_> Lock it in your desk, if you have a desk.
11:08 <@SkyDog_> Those have to be signed for also.
11:10 <@ladymerlin> lol
11:15 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: who's in charge of the DVRing of the presentations
11:16 <@ShadowHntr> i remember seeing them at the meeting
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11:18 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: The AV team. Why do you ask?
11:18 <@juice> how can I find what file or files are calling a bad harddrive sector?
11:18 <@juice> in linux
11:19 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: i'll ask them about the recordings when i make it to the hotel.
11:19 <@ShadowHntr> there's some presentations that i won't be able to make it to cause of work constraints
11:22 <@NotLarry> ShadowHntr: Where is your dedication?
11:23 <@ShadowHntr> eh?
11:23 <@ladymerlin> NotLarry: whena re you getting your ass to the hotel/
11:23 <@NotLarry> ladymerlin: Just a sec
11:26 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: Um, they will be available after the con. Stay tuned.
11:26 <@NotLarry> ladymerlin: today?  Damn, was it today we were hooking up, shit, got my schedule confused
11:26 <@ShadowHntr> cool.
11:26 <@NotLarry> wrong window
11:26 <@NotLarry> :)
11:26 <@juice> bleah
11:26 <@juice> anyone know where to find cheap laptop hardrives? under 50 bucks?
11:27 <@juice> ata6
11:27 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: when are you going to be touring buildings? just curious.
11:27 <@ShadowHntr> juice: ebay?
11:27 <@ShadowHntr> pricegrabber?
11:27 <@dc0de> juice: fry's?
11:27 <@juice> I would like to have one soon so I can use it at pn
11:28 <@juice> might have to look for one at the con maybe
11:28 <@Pr0nStrGeek> juice... i have cheap laptop drives...
11:28 <@Pr0nStrGeek> and will be at pn..
11:28 <@Pr0nStrGeek> i have two 20GB travelstars...
11:29 <@juice> sigh that is what I have had a 20 gb ibm travelstar and a 30gb travelstar both have failed
11:29 <@juice> but if the price is right I m interested
11:29 <@Pr0nStrGeek> you want a throwaway for the con?
11:29 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: In about 20 minutes, Bush and I are going out with a broker.
11:29 <@ShadowHntr> cool
11:29 <@juice> I want a hd that will last me for a while
11:30 <@ShadowHntr> juice: may have to pay more - look at the samsung disks as well as seagate momentus
11:30 <@Pr0nStrGeek> well, i can't speak for how long they'll last... but i've had both of them for at least 4 years now...
11:30 <@juice> yeah I want seagate they are like 59.99
11:31 <@juice> hmm I have had to in the past 6 years the first didn't last as long as this one has
11:31 <@juice> to=two
11:31 <@juice> I was hoping the hitachi one was made better
11:31 <@ShadowHntr> i've had no problems with seagate.
11:32 <@ShadowHntr> in 15 years.
11:32 <@Pr0nStrGeek> i don't recall whether mine are ibm or hitachi... and i'm at the office now... and not at home... do you need this before pn? or on arrival?
11:32 <@juice> arrival would be ok
11:32 <@juice> why not spend another phreaknic installing crap
11:32 <@dc0de> SkyDog_: I'm bringing 200 pair of foam earplugs for the geek shoot...
11:33 <@juice> everyone I have been to has wound up becoming an installfest
11:33 <@Pr0nStrGeek> well, i can ship it prior to if you want it sooner... =)
11:33 <@dc0de> so people don't have to purchase their own...
11:33 <@dc0de> and I'm thinking about 5 to 10 pair of extra (new) safety glasses as well.
11:36 <@ladymerlin> whee
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11:39 <@Shadow_Phone> dc0de_: gonna update the google spreadsheet with scores while im work if i get free time
11:39 <@Shadow_Phone> will send notifiers when to take a look
11:40 <@seeblind> dc0de: What db level do the ear plugs muffle?
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11:44 <@dc0de_> k
11:44 <@dc0de_> 26-30
11:44 <@SkyDog_> seeblind: They're not the greatest, but will help you from going deaf.
11:45 <@SkyDog_> I have cans that I wear, or some of the silicone ones.
11:45 <@ladymerlin> th esilicone ones rock
11:45 <@SkyDog_> Yep.
11:46 <@dc0de_> SkyDog_: what is the "staple" BBQ place in Nashville? It's somewhat famous....
11:46 <@ShadowHntr> um...
11:46 <@ShadowHntr> good question.
11:46  * Shadow_Phone shakes head, your not?
11:46 <@critch> Judge Bean?
11:46 <@ShadowHntr> i like Jim & Nick's
11:46 <@Shadow_Phone> oh god, thats gonna be funny
11:46 <@dc0de_> not sure...
11:46 <@critch> Jim & Nick sucks
11:46 <@Shadow_Phone> bonus points?
11:46 <@Shadow_Phone> for what you discussed, heh
11:47 <@dc0de_> can't remember the name of the place... but it's sorta a sports bar/bbq, and they only serve white bread with the meal
11:47 <@SkyDog_> Um, on Foster Ave is Tex's BBQ, but they are only open for Lunch.
11:47 <@Shadow_Phone> perfect
11:47  * Shadow_Phone laughs evily
11:47 <@Shadow_Phone> good idea dc0de_
11:47 <@critch> hmm, bbq for lunch sounds good
11:48 <@SkyDog_> Yeah. I dunno. nothing will compare to BBQ on the river with wilpig. They know how to cook it there man.
11:48 <@SkyDog_> I would like some sushi.
11:48 <@critch> bbqsushi?
11:48 <@SkyDog_> I know that Friday night, we need to order out some sushi. Jeff is game, I am sure.
11:48 <@SkyDog_> critch: Um, NO. that's just wrong. I think. Maybe. That might be good.
11:48 <@SkyDog_> Who knows.
11:51 <@critch> hmm, need lunch
11:51 <@ShadowHntr> sucks
11:51 <@ShadowHntr> that i'll have a job in time for phreaknic
11:52 <@ShadowHntr> but no money to spend :(
11:53 <@SkyDog_> Life sucks, here's your accordion.
11:53 <@SkyDog_> Wednesdays are polka days though.
11:54 <@ShadowHntr> cool
11:54  * ShadowHntr takes a few lessons from weird al. :*)
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11:59 <@Mirage> SkyDog_: I have those dvds in the car if you get a chance to swing by Vandy
11:59 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gfo0NJkh3A
11:59 <@ShadowHntr> solid state musical tesla coils !
11:59 <@ShadowHntr> :)
12:00 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX5V_9s0Gfw&mode=related&search=
12:00 <@ShadowHntr> w00t :)
12:04 <@SkyDog_> Mirage: When is lunch/ when do you leave, etc?
12:04 <@SkyDog_> I am looking at HC space until about 3.
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12:08 <@Mirage> SkyDog_: around 6-ish normally
12:08 <@SkyDog_> Cool. That will work.
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12:34 <@juice> in harddrives the block number is the same thing as a sector number right?
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12:58 <@Evilpig> anyone ever hot swapped a 64bit pci card?
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12:59 <@ShadowHntr> not here
12:59 <@Evilpig> http://alliedtelesis.com/media/datasheets/2971t_ds.pdf
13:00 <@Mirage> No, even is they are supposed to be hot-swappable.  I just don't have the balls to do it.
13:00 <@Evilpig> this card says it supports it.  pretty sure the motherboard does.  just wondering how it works and if it will freak out if I try it
13:01 <@Evilpig> http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/E7501/X5DP8-G2.cfm  <--motherboard
13:01 <@Mirage> The board/card in question belong to you?
13:02 <@Evilpig> no.  I just dont' want to down a server in the middle of the day to install a nic.
13:04 <@Mirage> Tell the customer, let them decide..short downtime for a NIC swap, or possibly no downtime, or extended downtime if the board fries attempting no downtime.
13:05 <@Evilpig> stupid customer is hiding from me
13:06 <@Mirage> Awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbcbIxyqZps  (warning: one use of the word fuck toward the end)
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13:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Mirage: you watching CNN right now?
13:22 <@Mirage> It's on, but I'm not really watching it
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13:45 <@rattle> I remember seeing a good LAMP app for keeping track of wiring closet routing...  But I can't remember the fucking name of it.
13:45 <@rattle> It just allowed you to create objects for servers/switches/routers, wiring closets, and patch panels..
13:45 <@rattle> Nothing that fancy..
13:46 <@rattle> This ringing any bells for anyone?
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13:46 <@ShadowHntr> Visio would do that, but there's got to be a better way.
13:47 <@rattle> Graphing apps are great for showing logical and physical layout of things..  But it's a lousy way to keep track of just what is patched where..
13:47 <@ShadowHntr> um
13:47 <@rattle> So are spreadsheets.
13:47 <@ShadowHntr> labelling the cables as they leave the patch panel?
13:47 <@ShadowHntr> that's the first step.
13:48 <@rattle> I remember using a really simple webapp for it, but I can't remember the name..
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13:48 <@rattle> Well, yeah..  But when you got a dozen closets around an enterprise network with interconnects going everywhere..  Documenting it is better than running around everytime you need to see how something is connected up..
13:52 <@Dolemite> yeah I remember seeing that when I was looking for a rack management app, but can't remember the name
13:52 <@Shadow_Phone> but documentation has a problem of not being up to date
13:52 <@Shadow_Phone> when you wanna make that change
13:53 <@Dolemite> that's why I charge my network monkeys with performing a physical audit monthly
13:53 <@Shadow_Phone> good for planning, but always have to spend time checking to make sure what is on paper is actually whats in the real world if its urget
13:53 <@Shadow_Phone> Dolemite: yes, i know about those request, garrr
13:54 <@Shadow_Phone> time for lunch, im out hoes
13:55  * ShadowHntr is watching the star trek movies
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13:55 <@ShadowHntr> Evaluate and conclude: a starship's sensors indicate it
13:56 <@ShadowHntr> Evaluate and conclude: a starship's sensors indicate it's being pursued so closely, it occupies the same space as it's pursuer.
13:56 <@ShadowHntr> Dolemite: any excitement at vandy?
13:56 <@Dolemite> in what way?
13:57 <@ShadowHntr> i don't know
13:57 <@ShadowHntr> anything
13:57 <@ShadowHntr> server go down
13:57 <@ShadowHntr> somebody hijacked the wireless
13:57 <@ShadowHntr> lol
13:57 <@ShadowHntr> j/k
13:57 <@Dolemite> no, nice and quiet day here
13:57 <@ShadowHntr> cool
13:57 <@ShadowHntr> i'm trying to keep myself occupied lol
13:57 <@ShadowHntr> watching the star trek movies while i'm doing a cluster scan on my old 300gb hard disk which has a borked partition table
13:57 <@ShadowHntr> 36hrs remaining
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14:10 <+coil> you're still talking about that fucking hard drive
14:23 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: you around?
14:23 <@Evilpig> no
14:24 <@NotLarry> Is that graphix card still by your back door?
14:24 <@Evilpig> yes
14:25 <@Dagmar> "Below is the "official" banner for this year."
14:27 <@ShadowHntr> i noticed that too dagmar
14:28 <@Dagmar> You knew it would happen https://128bit.clickandpledge.com/AccountDisabled.aspx?ID=13887&cid=US&a=
14:28 <@Dolemite> Gee, ShadowHntr, thanks for keeping that to yourself.  I would have fixed it had I realized. :P
14:28 <@NotLarry> My box is dead, not sure if it's a mb, gc, or what
14:28 <@ShadowHntr> Dolemite: i thought he was talking about the banner that users can display on their pages and sites
14:28 <@ShadowHntr> not the payment page
14:29 <@NotLarry> So, I was reading g33kshoot, can I carry my bow and comsume alcohol at the con?
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14:32 <@Dolemite> NotLarry : You can play your violin all you want while drinking, correct.
14:33 <@Evilpig> can I walk about the hotel with an open container?
14:34 <@Mirage> Are you sharing?
14:34 <@Evilpig> depends
14:34 <@Mirage> Well, there's your answer then..=P
14:34 <@Dolemite> I don't need any of those, I'm not quite that old
14:34 <@Evilpig> oh so if I share it's okay.  if i'm a stingy fuck it's not?
14:35 <@Dolemite> that's always the case
14:35 <@Mirage> Works for me
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14:47 <@NotLarry> well fuck
14:48 <@NotLarry> So, which floor is the archery contest on?
14:48 <@NotLarry> those halls will be great!
14:48 <@ShadowHntr> only if you promise not to leave any holes in the walls by the end of the con
14:48 <@ShadowHntr> lol
14:50 <@NotLarry> so, as long as I repair the holes...
14:50 <@NotLarry> well fuck, I need a new computer
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14:54 <@ShadowHntr> i see a rather nice one on ebay
14:54 <@ShadowHntr> http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-ThinkPad-T43p-Excellent-Condition_W0QQitemZ190160099504QQihZ009QQcategoryZ140083QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
14:54 <@Shadow_Phone> just fyi, when Dolemite post the link to the scavenger hunt forum, i will be posting more information and walkthroughs tonight
14:55 <@Shadow_Phone> an explanation of what to expect and how to practice for the challenges
14:55 <@Shadow_Phone> that is all
14:55 <@ShadowHntr> WHAT is your name?
14:55 <@ShadowHntr> WHAT is your quest?
14:55 <@Shadow_Phone> shut. up. hoe.
14:55 <@Shadow_Phone> your momma
14:55 <@ShadowHntr> she's dead.
14:55 <@Dolemite> What's this "when" shit?
14:55 <@Shadow_Phone> Dolemite: oh, checked last night, didnt see it
14:55 <@Dolemite> The link has been up since dc0de told me, be0tch!
14:55 <@Shadow_Phone> oh, cool
14:55 <@Dolemite> It was up last night
14:56 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, correction then
14:56  * Dolemite regulates
14:56 <@Shadow_Phone> will post more info tonight and send out a mailing list notification when updated to root list
14:58 <@Dolemite> Shadow_Phone : Of course, that forum appears to be down
14:59 <@Shadow_Phone> gah, let me check
14:59 <@Dolemite> But it was working yesterday morning when I linked it
14:59 <@Shadow_Phone> hmm, odd
14:59 <@Dolemite> ah, it's /scavengerhunt
14:59 <@Dolemite> lemme fiss
14:59 <@Shadow_Phone> yes
14:59 <@Shadow_Phone> kk
15:00 <@Dolemite> fissed
15:00 <@Shadow_Phone> bringing everything from last weekend into a faq tonight
15:00 <@Shadow_Phone> so i can let everyone know what to expect
15:00 <@Shadow_Phone> and work out how im gonna register teams
15:00 <@Shadow_Phone> then sent out a notify to root
15:00 <@Shadow_Phone> still no worky
15:01 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, there we goo
15:01 <@Shadow_Phone> had to wait for it to refresh
15:01 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, telecon, later
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15:23 <@Evilpig> friendly tip for all you out there hp lj5550n's are very heavy and bulky. do not move them on your own
15:24 <@Evilpig> on a side note anyone have any spare pain killers? like good ones?
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15:24 <@ShadowHntr> lol
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15:24 <@ShadowHntr> :)
15:25 <@ShadowHntr> haven't worked with the 5550s
15:25 <@ShadowHntr> oy
15:25 <@ShadowHntr> those look heavy
15:25 <@ShadowHntr> oh !
15:25 <@ShadowHntr> i have worked with those before
15:25 <@ShadowHntr> but just replacing maintenance kits and transfer belts
15:25 <@ShadowHntr> i was lucky.
15:25 <@Evilpig> why wouldn't it be a serious question i am hurting here
15:27 <@Evilpig> oh of course not i'm in benton, mo right now
15:27 <@ShadowHntr> yikes
15:27 <@ShadowHntr> sorry thought you may have already drove out to nashville.
15:27 <@Evilpig> still can't belive that secretary just stood there in my way when she saw a huge printer coming toward her and just my legs under it
15:28 <@ShadowHntr> oy
15:28 <@ShadowHntr> perhaps a trip to the doc's office or urgent care?
15:29 <@Evilpig> fuck that noise they are already trrying to fuck me for 184t because of this and thar with the doctor
15:30 <@nachoguy> http://www.ajc.com/services/content/metro/stories/2007/10/10/wateruse_1011.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=13
15:33 <@Mirage> Evilpig: I always love how people never want to open a pull-to-open door for you, but if it's one that all you have to do is push..they'll hold it all day ong waiting for you
15:39 <@wizardPC> hey do they serve alcohol at bongo java?
15:47 <@SkyDog_> No, but they serve "setups". :)
15:47 <@SkyDog_> I dunno, really.
15:47 <@SkyDog_> You might be able to get a beer there.
15:48 <@SkyDog_> wizardPC: Found some warehouse space. Gotta do the layout, but it might be what we need.
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15:50 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: awesome. which site did you choose
15:51 <@SkyDog_> Well, didn't choose it yet, per se, but it's off Blanton Ave. It's right at the intersection of 40, 440, and 24 at murfreesboro rd.
15:51 <@SkyDog_> It's pretty damn centrally located.
15:51 <@Dolemite> I believe that Bongo does not have any alcoholic beverages for sale.
15:51 <@dc0de> Here is something I just received in email... humorous...
15:51 <@dc0de> http://www.dc0de.com/gallery/v/Humor/Homework.JPG.html
15:51 <@dc0de> mostly safe for work...
15:52 <@ShadowHntr> cool spence lane area
15:52 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: Yeah.
15:52 <@ShadowHntr> let me google earth it
15:52 <@dc0de> ShadowHntr: did you find a SCSI controller for your compaq yet?
15:52 <@ShadowHntr> well skydog said he has a few
15:52 <@SkyDog_> It's got a dock height door.
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15:52 <@dc0de> SkyDog_: getting an office?
15:52 <@SkyDog_> I have pictures of it, but I need to do some drawings first.
15:53 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: Nope. Non-profit venture.
15:53 <@ShadowHntr> i'd like to confer re: that, if that's cool SkyDog_
15:53 <@dc0de> cool
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15:53 <@SkyDog_> Not right now, I have to sit with a client. A little later...yes.
15:53 <@ShadowHntr> k that's cool
15:53 <@ShadowHntr> i'm not going anywhere
15:53 <@SkyDog_> I have to look at the new pic of brit's snatch.
15:53 <@ShadowHntr> sitting on an empty gas tank and overdrawn bank acct :(
15:53 <@dc0de> SkyDog_: there's a new one?
15:53 <@dc0de> ShadowHntr: still out of work?
15:54 <@ShadowHntr> dc0de: got a job offer, but don't start work till next week
15:54 <@ShadowHntr> next monday
15:54 <@dc0de> ouch...
15:54 <@ShadowHntr> DaVita - where ladymerlin works
15:54 <@dc0de> congrats!
15:54 <@SkyDog_> http://http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/
15:54 <@ShadowHntr> HAHAHAHAHA SkyDog_
15:54 <@Corydon76-dig> "Why, no, Comcast, I wasn't planning on getting any work done today, anyway."
15:55 <@dc0de> Seriously, at this point, Britney should tie herself up in a shopping cart and have somebody push it off a cliff, because that's the way only her plummet to bottom is gonna go any faster.
15:55 <@dc0de> the text is funnier than the photos!
15:58 <@dc0de> I like the writers on this site... "I've never seen a baby giraffe being hit with a taser, but I get the feeling it may look something like Ashlee Simpson did last night at a Fall Out Boy concert."
16:02 <@Shadow_Phone> dc0de: did you get my email and take a glance?
16:02 <@dc0de> I'm about to open up my email... so not yet.
16:03 <@Shadow_Phone> also gonna write up and faq of wht to expect tonight and sent it to root
16:03 <@Shadow_Phone> so everyone has time to make preperations
16:03 <@Shadow_Phone> gah, to many things to do at work, can even type straight, well worse than normal
16:06 <@Dolemite> oops!  Past time to go home
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16:30 <@wizardPC> lol Rob Briley is.....missing
16:30 <@wizardPC> wonder if he's doing a dance on the side of the highway somewhere
16:37 <@SkyDog_> who is rob briley?
16:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Isn't he the local politician who got caught driving drunk?
16:38 <@Corydon76-dig> state house or something?
16:41 <@ShadowHntr> didn't he run for mayor of nashville?
16:44 <@critch> relative
16:45 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh
16:45 <@ladymerlin> ShadowHntr: get your paperwork?
16:46 <@ShadowHntr> still waiting on fedex
16:46 <@ShadowHntr> curtis said he overnighted it
16:46 <@ShadowHntr> has he left the office yet?
16:46 <@ladymerlin> id uuno im already home
16:46 <@ShadowHntr> my bad
16:53 <@Corydon76-dig> David Briley for mayor
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17:03 <@ladymerlin> wizardPC: ping
17:04 <@wizardPC> j0
17:04 <@ladymerlin> i have your sd card
17:04 <@ladymerlin> when do ya need it back?
17:04 <@wizardPC> rob briley was just found....in Tunica
17:04 <@wizardPC> meh, whenever
17:05 <@ladymerlin> ok cool
17:05 <@ladymerlin> ill make sure to have it wit me next time i see ya
17:05 <@wizardPC> cool
17:21 <@SkyDog_> Mirage: You around?
17:25 <@Evilpig> damnit!  I knew better than to try and lift that fuckin' thing
17:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh.  The first person noticed that the registration page had been disabled
17:27 <@Evilpig> (W x D x H) 22.7 x 27.7 x 25.2 in   114 lb    that isn't all the heavy either.  it's just so fuckin' big
17:27 <@ShadowHntr> yikes
17:27 <@ShadowHntr> yeah
17:27 <@ShadowHntr> should have received help
17:28 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: You ok man?
17:29 <@Evilpig> yeah just hurting.  my back is really sore now and my left arm is as well
17:30 <@SkyDog_> Damn. Sorry man. Medicate it and play some wow. It didn't mess up your mousing arm, did it?
17:30 <@Evilpig> nah my jerking arm is fine.  I think.
17:30 <@SkyDog_> Um, good...um... nevermind.
17:30  * Corydon76-dig opens a browser to Pig's webcam
17:31 <@SkyDog_> RUN!
17:32 <@Evilpig> has he figured out a way to jump through the webserver at me?
17:32 <@Corydon76-dig> "wee wee wee" all the way home
17:32 <@Evilpig> I think i'm still safe
17:32 <@Mirage> SkyDog_: sorry, i was working..
17:35 <@NotLarry> wtf are you lifting?
17:35 <@ShadowHntr> laser printer
17:36 <@Evilpig> lj5550n
17:36 <@ShadowHntr> Evilpig: best suggestion is 600-800mg ibuprofen
17:37 <@Shadow_Phone> i got 1000mg rx pain relievers for my arthritis
17:37 <@Shadow_Phone> those are awesome
17:37 <@Mirage> Evilpig: just be glad you didn't do like I did on a 2500dn..ripped all the cartilage around my sternum.  3 years later and it still pops/aches/etc
17:38 <@Shadow_Phone> owww
17:40 <@ShadowHntr> when i screwed up my back one of my mates who is a pharmacy tech
17:40 <@ShadowHntr> gave me some samples of Mobic
17:40 <@ShadowHntr> it's an anti-inflammatory
17:40 <@ShadowHntr> works rather well
17:40 <@ShadowHntr> and available generic
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17:42 <@SkyDog_> Mirage: http://www.fortogden.com/forbidden.html
17:43 <@Mirage> oops, 4500dn..just realised the typo.   4500DN: 163 lb
17:44 <@Mirage> SkyDog_: damnit, now they'll come after me..=P
17:45 <@SkyDog_> heh! RUN!
17:45 <@SkyDog_> I will be leaving the office in a min. Gotta change the backup drive for the client.
17:46 <@ShadowHntr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_%28monster%29
17:46 <@ShadowHntr> It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
17:49 <@Mirage> be sure you have a towel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Races_and_species_in_The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Ravenous_Bugblatter_Beast_of_Traal
17:52 <@ShadowHntr> Yes.
17:52 <@ShadowHntr> If you can't see it, it can't see you.
17:53 <@Evilpig> was wondering cause I thought 2500s were those big, but light, desk jets
17:54 <@ShadowHntr> i remember my dad's Deskjet 520
17:54 <@ShadowHntr> that was a good printer.
17:55 <+coil> heh we had one of those
18:03 <@Mirage> Evilpig: yeah, the 2500 series don't weigh much at all..they're 90% plastic
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18:34 <@Shadow_Phone> anybody else have questions about this event, that i should answer in my first version of the faq?
18:35 <@Shadow_Phone> scavenger hunt event that is
18:36 <@ShadowHntr> what are the boundries
18:36 <@ShadowHntr> etc.
18:36 <@Shadow_Phone> good question
18:37 <@Shadow_Phone> anything else?
18:41 <@ShadowHntr> timeframe of the scavenger hunt
18:41 <@ShadowHntr> what types of objects will they be looking for
18:42 <@ShadowHntr> will they be in plain sight, etc.
18:42 <+coil> dildos
18:42 <@Shadow_Phone> good questions, die coil!
18:42 <+coil> ?
18:43 <@Shadow_Phone> we dont want to play with your sex toys
18:43 <+coil> dont knock it till you try it!!!
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18:53 <@ladymerlin> heya MudFlap
18:53 <+coil> eww
18:53 <@wizardPC> SkyDog_, ladymerlin: http://crash.is-a-geek.com/pictures/Carry_weapons.JPG
18:54 < MudFlap> Hey ho, looking for printing instructions for next week.
18:54 <@ladymerlin> hahahah love it wiz
18:54 <@wizardPC> I thought you might
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18:58 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: Can you bring the notkids with you on Thursday?
18:58 <@ladymerlin> MudFlap: ill get skydog to contact you...hes no online right now
19:00 < MudFlap> ok, I'm ready to paper the joint.  Looking forward to helping the festival.
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19:01 <@devemo> hi sdodson
19:01 <+coil> my best friend sdodson !
19:02 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, faq complete, just gotta tweak forums.
19:02 <+coil> tweeker
19:02 <@Shadow_Phone> before i send out a root list announcement
19:02 <@devemo> for what?
19:03 <@Mirage> i'm gona laugh when no one can find anything because the homeless already picked it up
19:04 <@ShadowHntr> lol
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19:17 <@Evilpig> huh?
19:17 <@Evilpig> wha?
19:17 <@Evilpig> what is thursday?
19:17 <@Mirage> go raid something
19:17 <@Evilpig> fucking frat is having an auction and it is really throwing me off
19:18 <@Mirage> chick auction/
19:18 <@Mirage> ?
19:23 <@Evilpig> other
19:23 <@Evilpig> corydon's type
19:23 <+coil> ~mxzbot ping
19:23 <+MxZBot> ping is a program to send icmp echo request packets to network hosts.  To test it do ping -f microsoft.com
19:23 <+coil> ~mxzbot traceroute
19:23 <+MxZBot> dunno what the heck you're talking about, coil
19:23 <@Evilpig> well if corydon was into frat guys
19:24 <+coil> ~mxzbot traceroute is stfu
19:24 <+MxZBot> coil: okay
19:24 <+coil> ~mxzbot traceroute
19:24 <+MxZBot> traceroute is stfu
19:24 <+coil> ~mxzbot?
19:24 <+MxZBot> mxzbot is your bitch
19:24 <+coil> ~mxzbot stfu
19:24 <+MxZBot> stfu is fucking great
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19:32 <+coil> ~mxzbot stfu
19:32 <+MxZBot> stfu is fucking great
19:32 <+coil> ~mxzbot Mirage
19:32 <+MxZBot> Chewbacca has taken up residence on his native planet. munching on qdoba
19:32 <+coil> ~mxzbot dasunt
19:32 <+MxZBot> dasunt is that you?
19:32 <@ShadowHntr> /ignore coil
19:33 <@ShadowHntr> /ignore mxzbot
19:33 <+coil> aww
19:33 <+coil> /ginore your mom
19:33 <@ShadowHntr> no big deal, she's dead.
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19:37 <@sasquatc4> mm, portal++
19:37 <@sasquatc4> fun game
19:38 <@ShadowHntr> i want to play it too :)
19:38 <@dc0de> what was that game the other night... that was awesome.
19:38 <@sasquatc4> it seems sorta short tho
19:38 <@sasquatc4> only played for 30min and im on #13/19, at least thats what the non-helpful signs tell me at the start of each level
19:39 <@sasquatc4> but the puzzles are getting sorta rediculous
19:40 <@Mirage> coil?
19:41 <@Mirage> damn..nothing
19:41 <+coil> i thought i had something
19:41 <+coil> ~mxzbot coil
19:41 <+MxZBot> Coil plays for both teams, but prefers the cawk. looking for a ride
19:41 <+coil> wtf who added the last part
19:41 <@ShadowHntr> lol
19:41 <@Mirage> MaxieZ change the script on the bot?
19:42 <+coil> "looking for a ride"? wtf is that shit
19:42 <@Mirage> I think it means you wanna piece of Corydon
19:42 <+coil> and that statement is outdated
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20:09 <@dc0de> Shadow_Phone: ping
20:09 <@dc0de> coil: if you sit on it, it doesn't make you a "top".
20:10 <+coil> dont knock it till you tried it
20:11 <@dc0de> coil: thanks, but I'll pass...
20:17  * dasunt is *gasp* drinking something that is non-alcoholic.
20:18 <@Shadow_Phone> pong
20:18 <@Shadow_Phone> almost ready to send out list
20:18 <@Mirage> mixed with something alchoholic?
20:19 <@Shadow_Phone> who is able to update the phreaknic website?
20:19 <@Mirage> Dolemite
20:19 <@Shadow_Phone> he the *only* one?
20:19 <@Mirage> so far as I know.
20:20 <@Mirage> you want anything added to the internal website for the con?
20:20 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, will get the faq uploaded tomorrow then
20:20 <@Shadow_Phone> yes
20:20 <@Mirage> mail it to me
20:20 <@Shadow_Phone> v1.0 of faq
20:20 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, pm
20:20 <@Shadow_Phone> you email addy
20:20 <@Shadow_Phone> dc0de: forum updated
20:21 <@dc0de> Shadow_Phone: rock on!
20:21 <@Shadow_Phone> faq version 1 as i said is ready
20:22 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-dig: if I have a statement like this. print "$entry->issued";  and it outputs this XML::Feed::Entry::RSS=HASH(0xa06d918)->issued  that is an array of sometype?
20:23 <@Corydon76-dig> No, that's a reference
20:24 <@Corydon76-dig> and a blessed reference, it looks like
20:24 <@Corydon76-dig> (iow, an object)
20:24 <@sdodson> value() or something?
20:25 <@Shadow_Phone> mirage: did it come through?
20:25 <@Corydon76-dig> $entry->issued is a hash... try:  print %{$entry->issued};
20:25 <@Corydon76-dig> and you should see the key/value pairs
20:25 <@Mirage> Shadow_Phone: a word .doc?  ok, that's it..you're out of the club
20:26 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, i didnt use word
20:26 <@Shadow_Phone> and word opens in open office just fine
20:26 <@Shadow_Phone> so i chose that
20:26 <@Mirage> yeah, suuuure
20:27 <@dasunt> Mirage: Nope, 100% non-alcoholic.
20:27 <@Shadow_Phone> i used google docs to create the file if you must know
20:27 <@Shadow_Phone> Mirage: can you post that as asked?
20:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Hot damn, only 3 rooms left
20:28 <@Mirage> I'll pass this on to Dolemite and also add it to the internal site
20:29 <@Evilpig> trying
20:31 <@Evilpig> fuck.  that is kinda what I figured it was going to do.  I think this variable is empty
20:32 <@Evilpig> http://pastebin.ca/733737  try running this and see what you get
20:32 <@Shadow_Phone> thx Mirage: you rock
20:33 <@Evilpig> I recompiled all those dependecies from cpan earlier to see if I had somethign fubar
20:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: I tried installing yesterday, but the box won't let me install those modules
20:33 <@Corydon76-dig> rpm mismatch, sorry
20:34 <@Evilpig> crap
20:34 <@Evilpig> this is really annoying.  I think I have it isolated to the problem now.  but I am not sure how to fix it
20:35 <@Shadow_Phone> root list update on event going out
20:35  * sdodson reads back
20:35 <@Evilpig> actually feed::find might be the one you have to force from cpan cause of the references in the make test stuff to the guy's old website that isn't there anymore
20:36 <@ShadowHntr> damn is it really thursday? heh.
20:37 <@Shadow_Phone> now im off to play some more episode 2, later!
20:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: hang on, trying another machine
20:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: what am I supposed to see?
20:37 <@Evilpig> should be the time the post was issued, I think, and the title
20:38 <@Evilpig> mine just shows the titles and a blank line
20:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, that's what it prints
20:39 <@Evilpig> http://search.cpan.org/~btrott/XML-Feed-0.12/lib/XML/Feed/Entry.pm
20:40 <@Evilpig> damn.  i've tried issued and modified and both are blank
20:40 <@Evilpig> i'm sure that is the problem.  but not sure what to do about it.  haven't found a feed yet that works so I am assuming it is the xml::feed stuff that is not working right
20:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Aha
20:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Check out the original XML
20:45 <@Corydon76-dig> There is no "issued" or "modified" xml tag
20:45 <@Evilpig> that would do it
20:45 <@Corydon76-dig> No date at all in there AFAICT
20:46 <@Evilpig> GG memestreams
20:46 <@Evilpig> just checked their page and none there either
20:47 <@Evilpig> <pubDate>2007-10-11 21:46:44-0400</pubDate>
20:47 <@Evilpig> but that is just for the feeds list 
20:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, so you can check for that with:  if ($date == undef) { ... }
20:48 <@Corydon76-dig> and then either not print a date or print something else
20:48 <@Shadow_Phone> anyone get my root list email yet?
20:48 <@Shadow_Phone> still waiting for it to come back
20:49 <@Mirage> Yes
20:49 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, cool
20:49 <@Evilpig> the way he wrote this plugin that won't work.  cause he does a match on the time of the entry vs the time of the entry on the database so it doesn't do double entry
20:49 <@Shadow_Phone> guess "s" is pretty low on cue list
20:49 <@Evilpig> just need to get rattle to put times on the rss feed
20:51 <@Corydon76-dig> A workaround might be to MD5 the title and store that in the db, along with an expiration date
20:52 <@Corydon76-dig> 90 days or so should be enough.  Stories shouldn't hang around that long, and there shouldn't be a duplicate title within that time period
20:53  * sdodson makes sure to post lots of duplicate titles
20:56 <@dasunt> sdodson: If you were willing to go the extra mile, just post md5 hash collision titles.
20:58 <@Evilpig> rattle: ping
20:58 <@Evilpig> the way I see it.  memestreams should just add the time fields.
20:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Classic.  http://img.worsethanfailure.com/images/200710/error'd/cables.jpg
20:59 <@Dolemite> Heh, I wonder how much us locals could auction off our hotel rooms for Friday/Saturday night?
21:00 <@Dolemite> Mirage : See my text message about the Japanese restaurant we tried tonight?
21:00 <@ware> hai gaiz
21:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: could you remove the prereg link and the PDF from the registration page?
21:00 <@Dolemite> OH HAI WARE.  You has my bukket?
21:01 <@sdodson> time seems pretty integral to RSS
21:02 <@Dolemite> updated
21:03 <@Shadow_Phone> Dolemite: mirage has an update i sent him for the phreaknic site
21:03 <@Dolemite> the list?
21:03 <@ware> i haz dh bucket
21:03 <@ware> tcs called me for an interview
21:04 <@Dolemite> ware : lookz in da bukket and pull out a j0b
21:04 <@ware> where tcstool works / worked
21:04 <@ware> haha
21:04 <@Shadow_Phone> no, not the list, ill resned to you as well then
21:04 <@Shadow_Phone> donw
21:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: danke
21:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Fuck, it's quiet here without Jeff
21:05 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : Since I can no longer find replacement lamps for the old Optoma projector, once the two I have burn out, that's it.  It served us rather well for being a $50 eBay purchase.
21:06 <@Dolemite> Well, I can't find the lamps as cheaply as I used to
21:06 <@Stefanie_TN> :)
21:06 <@Mirage> Dolemite: yeah, I saw it.  You owe me $.15 now for sending me that too..SkyDog_ owes me $.30.
21:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, cool, you got 350 swag items
21:06 <@Dolemite> it's not worth paying $50 for a lamp that lasts less than 24 hours
21:06 <@Corydon76-dig> ouch, 24 hours?
21:07 <@Dolemite> Every lamp we've gotten in the past has burned out after about 20 hours of continuous use
21:07 <@Corydon76-dig> btw, do we have an eta for the tshirts?  i.e. are we rolling shirts this weekend or on thursday?
21:07 <@Dolemite> I'm sure they'd last longer if we didn't run it full time
21:07 <@Dolemite> O
21:07 <@Dolemite> I've got a call in to them.  Shirts are *supposed* to be ready by COB tomorrow
21:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Cool, I'm working from home tomorrow, if you need me to go pick them up
21:08 <@Dolemite> If so then I'll get them and get with ladymerlin on rolling them
21:08 <@Dolemite> Skydog said he could help, too
21:08 <@Dolemite> I may send the shirts with him and bring the various schwag pieces with me to start assembling.
21:08 <@Corydon76-dig> I still have some paper strips from last year and tape for rolling
21:08 <@ware> so, can i put mah buket on teh registration table and ask for charitable gifts
21:08 <@Dolemite> What we definitely need to start happening is the folding of the foil
21:09 <@ware> towards the mentally gifted technological broke college students
21:09 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: you can come keep me company tonight... I'll feed you...
21:09  * ware haz a pizza atm, but thank you
21:09 <@ware> i could go for a bj
21:09 <@dc0de> ware: hope you like tube steak.
21:09 <@Dolemite> This place still has lamps for $30...  after than the next cheapest is over $100
21:09 <@Dolemite> http://www.lcdprojectorbulbs.com/lcdprojectorbulb.asp_Q_ID_E_3983_A_promoID_E_9
21:10 <@Dolemite> I used to get them for about $10 each.  That was a steal back then.
21:10 <@Dolemite> Skydog said he's got 2 projectors, though, so we should be in good shape
21:10 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: yeah, sure, why not... free blowjob
21:10 <@Dolemite> I had commandeered a projector from work but the lamp is out
21:11 <@Dolemite> If I can get it donated to Nashville 2600 it will be very much worth us spending $320 on a replacement lamp.  It's an NEC 2100 lumens that does 1024x768 native and has multiple inputs
21:11 <@Dolemite> MT-1050 is the model number
21:12 <@Stefanie_TN> Cool.
21:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: for this year?
21:12 <@Corydon76-dig> I dunno if I can get a bulb in time
21:12 <@Dolemite> no, it's too late for this year
21:13 <@Dolemite> I am going to see if we can borrow one for this year as a backup
21:13 <@Dolemite> We have a couple of conference rooms with more than one projector in them
21:14 <@dc0de> Dolemite: you want me to bring one from work as a backup?
21:14 <@Dolemite> dc0de : It can't hurt
21:14 <@dc0de> will do.
21:14 <@Dolemite> It's just for the anime room, so it doesn't have to be high res
21:14 <@Dolemite> worst case we take a TV out of a room and stick it in the anime room
21:14 <@dc0de> well, this one is high res, high lumins... it's one of those tiny friggin ones.
21:15 <@Dolemite> Or we drive over to Mirage's and steal his new TV ;)
21:15 <@Mirage> Skydog just needs to drag his 55" TV down there for the anime room
21:15 <@Dolemite> yeah, that'd work great!
21:17 <@dc0de> we just put up 3 x 60" flat screens in our SOC.... too bad I can't get one of those off the wall....
21:19 <@Dolemite> ok, time for some tv and then bed
21:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, and the final AV converters/splitters should arrive on Monday
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21:27 <@ShadowHntr> who is this jeff wee-eng who's in charge of the anime room
21:27 <@ShadowHntr> is he on irc at all?
21:31 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-dig: one last question.  okay after digging around I think he is only using hte ID of the post to check whether or not it has been posted.  http://pastebin.ca/733786  is that what this part means? next if $seen{ $blog->id . $entry->id };
21:32 <@Evilpig> cause if that is the case then I can set this to just use the current time as the posting time if the one test comes back as it being undefined
21:32 <@Stefanie_TN> ShadowHntr, he's rarely on IRC, but he's been sending emails on the list nonstop for the past two days. LOL
21:32 <@ShadowHntr> lol
21:33 <@Evilpig> jeff is never on irc that I can recall
21:33 <@Stefanie_TN> He knows his anime. :)
21:33 <@Stefanie_TN> I thought I had a lot of anime until I met him.
21:33 <@dc0de> Stefanie_TN: did you see this? http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9795510-38.html
21:34 <@Stefanie_TN> dc0de, that's new to me.
21:35 <@dc0de> I'm sitting here in disbelief...
21:35 <@dc0de> what are they thinking!?
21:35 <@ShadowHntr> damn
21:35 <@ShadowHntr> this is a bloody great case :)
21:35 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133042
21:36 <@dc0de> ShadowHntr: what makes it great?
21:37 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-dig: ping ping ping
21:37 <@ShadowHntr> dc0de: solid construction, elegant and not too flashy, fits in with almost any office or home environment. also *extremely* quiet with the front and back fans.
21:37 <@ShadowHntr> my Sun Ultra 5 is louder than this workstation.
21:38 <@Mirage> The whole suspending thing is over the top..  the whole wanting to carry a gun on campus is a bit much too..guy must not be too bright
21:38 <@Evilpig> it's got a window.....
21:38 <@dc0de> ShadowHntr: ahh, I like smaller footprints...
21:38 <@ShadowHntr> yeah it is a mid-tower case
21:38 <@dc0de> Mirage: all I can say, it's a time bomb
21:38 <@ShadowHntr> but that one is the one that caught my eye
21:38 <@ShadowHntr> i don't like generic bullshit in my system.
21:38 <@ShadowHntr> i make up my mind what i want
21:38 <@ShadowHntr> and get it
21:39 <@ShadowHntr> only things i compromised on were the mainboard and the power supply
21:39 <@ShadowHntr> but even then i didn't just look for the cheapest one
21:39 <@dasunt> ShadowHntr: Looks nice, but I dislike the window.
21:39 <@ShadowHntr> it's available w/o a window
21:40 <@dasunt> The amount of fans is also probably overkill, but it is a nice option to have.
21:40 <@Evilpig> the last few cases I had where the front panel was hinged like that I didn't like.
21:40 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/midtower/bachVX/vf4000bns.asp
21:40 <@ShadowHntr> i got the one with the window
21:40 <@dasunt> Also don't like the top access to USB.
21:41 <@ShadowHntr> and the only thing i got in there that's even slightly "bling" is my RAM which has leds underneath the heat spreaders
21:41 <@Mirage> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024
21:41 <@ShadowHntr> but overall it is a *very* nice case.
21:41 <@ShadowHntr> antec's good too
21:41 <@ShadowHntr> nice case.
21:42 <@ShadowHntr> would make a nice HTPC
21:42 <@dc0de> http://us.shuttle.com/Home.aspx
21:42 <@dc0de> I've got one of those...
21:42 <@ShadowHntr> although for an HTPC, imo i would get either a Shuttle or an AOpen sff
21:42 <@ShadowHntr> yeap
21:42 <@dc0de> the XPC
21:42 <@ShadowHntr> cool
21:42 <@dc0de> and I love it.
21:42 <@dc0de> it's very quiet, as it has a brick power supply
21:43 <@dasunt> How are teh shuttles now?
21:43 <@ShadowHntr> and the power supply i picked is nice too
21:43 <@dc0de> dasunt: I own three of them.
21:43 <@dc0de> two of the larger and the
21:43 <@dc0de> xpc
21:43 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371007
21:43 <@dc0de> I love all three
21:43 <@Mirage> ShadowHntr: A nice HTPC? Did I link the wrong case?
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21:43 <@ShadowHntr> Mirage: lol
21:43 <@ShadowHntr> the antec?
21:44 <@ShadowHntr> sonata iii
21:44 <@ShadowHntr> HTPC can be midtowers as well...
21:44 <@ShadowHntr> http://usa.aopen.com/products_detail.aspx?Auno=1489
21:44 <@ShadowHntr> that's something similar to what i'd want
21:45 <@ShadowHntr> that or a shuttle sff
21:45 <@ShadowHntr> perhaps a falcon nw fragbox.
21:45 <@dasunt> Quick question, does the SCA interface set the SCSI ID?
21:45 <@ShadowHntr> yes
21:46 <@ShadowHntr> the backplane sets the ID and passes it on to the controller
21:47 <@Mirage> ShadowHntr: When I think HTPC, I think something more like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163081
21:47 <@ShadowHntr> yeah that would fit nicely into almost any home theatre setup
21:47 <@ShadowHntr> =)
21:47 <@Mirage> or this (which I have) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163046
21:47 <@ShadowHntr> i could imagine this as a HTPC
21:47 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811163071
21:48 <@ShadowHntr> actually i may buy one of those for my younger brother
21:49 <@Evilpig> corydon went to bed didn't he?
21:50 <@ShadowHntr> hehe
21:50 <@dc0de> http://cgi.ebay.com/Shuttle-XPC-M1000-Black-COMPLETE-System-Recertified_W0QQitemZ320152991224QQihZ011QQcategoryZ140076QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
21:50 <@SkyDog_> Evening all.
21:50 <@dc0de> ~minilink
21:50 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/ebay.com/MBR8n
21:50 <@dc0de> w00f
21:50 <@ShadowHntr> o_0
21:50 <@ShadowHntr> i liker
21:50 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: hush you.  trying to get perl help and you're filling the buffer
21:50  * someninjamaster yawns
21:52 <@wizardPC> SkyDog_, http://www.crash.is-a-geek.com/pictures/Carry_weapons.JPG
21:52 <@dc0de> wizardPC: that's funny... labeled by areas...
21:53 <@Evilpig> http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/engineemount.jpg
21:53 <@SkyDog_> What the hell is that? What you're supposed to carry in those areas?
21:53 <@wizardPC> yep
21:53 <@Stefanie_TN> Murfreesboro = .50AE.
21:53 <@SkyDog_> I would figure that memphis would be that gun from 'alien' with the grenade launcher and flamethrower attached.
21:54 <@SkyDog_> Of course, nashville's .40 needs a dollar dispenser on the end.
21:54 <@dc0de> heh... I like memphis
21:54 <@wizardPC> well, maybe i'll pick up the grenade launcher this weekend
21:55 <@SkyDog_> Ok, I reserved a room the last time we were at the hotel. Why is it making me nervous that the hotel is out of rooms?
21:56 <@Mirage> Why have you waited until the last minute? Wait..nevermind
21:56 <@SkyDog_> wizardPC: Ladym and I have been picking up our armament for the con... Not the shoot, the con. :)
21:56 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, I didn't. I reserved it the weekend when we first did the A/V test.
22:00 <@someninjamaster> thats when i reserved mine
22:00 <@dc0de> well, I'm off to bed...
22:00 <@dc0de> night all
22:03 <@dasunt> It is official, I'm using alcohol to solve my problems.
22:03 <@dasunt> Well, problem.
22:03 <@dasunt> I cna't figure out how to use the electronic thermostat.
22:03 <@wizardPC> is the problem that you're sober?
22:04 <@ShadowHntr> LOL wizard
22:04 <@dasunt> It is about 65 degrees in here.
22:04 <@dasunt> So I'll try drinking for the dialation of the blood vessels in my hand.
22:06 <@wizardPC> my dad used to refer to alcohol as antifreeze
22:06 <@ShadowHntr> heh
22:06 <@wizardPC> i wish he drank real antifreeze
22:08 <@dasunt> "So I really am important?  How I feel when I'm drunk is correct?"
22:08 <@dasunt> wizardPC: Asshole?
22:08 <@dasunt> (No offense to your father intended, I don't know him.  But if you wantted him to drink poision...)
22:09 <@wizardPC> yeah, he's an asshole
22:09 <@Stefanie_TN> I'm not the only one watching Futurama, I see.
22:09 <@SkyDog_> Well, I have seen all of them.
22:10 <@dasunt> wizardPC: How old are you?
22:10 <@wizardPC> 27
22:10 <@Stefanie_TN> Who hasn't? They're still good.  "The Dave Mathews Band doesn't rock." LOL
22:10 <@dasunt> Stefanie_TN: I like how the female nibblonian shakes her head sadly with that remark.
22:10 <@SkyDog_> I have three seasons on DVD. Love the show.
22:10 <@Stefanie_TN> LOL!!!!
22:11 <@Evilpig> i'm watching meatballs instead
22:12 <@Stefanie_TN> Telling my age... I saw Meatballs in the theater.
22:13 <@SkyDog_> So did I.
22:13 <@SkyDog_> And Aliens.
22:13 <@dasunt> There is new Futurama soon, y/n?
22:13 <@Evilpig> movie.  yes
22:14 <@Stefanie_TN> Yep - saw Aliens too... and Star Wars (the real one).
22:14 <@Stefanie_TN> ...and Jaws.
22:15 <@SkyDog_> I'm watching Real Sex on HBO...
22:15 <@SkyDog_> Yeah to all of those too.
22:15 <@SkyDog_> Sigh.
22:15 <@Stefanie_TN> I didn't see that in the theater.
22:16 <@Evilpig> i'm now watching real sex as well
22:16 <@Stefanie_TN> My parents wouldn't take me to The Godfather, but my Dad did take me to see Apocalypse Now when my mom was out of town.
22:17 <@SkyDog_> I went to see porky's with my parents. I think I am almost done with my therapy...
22:17 <@Mirage> Gore's up for a Nobel, eh?  SkyDog really should get him to come talk at PN
22:17 <@SkyDog_> trust me, we have tried.
22:17 <@Evilpig> Mirage: do you really want anyone that brings secret service with them at the con?
22:18 <@Evilpig> we wouldn't see notlarry for a few weeeks after that
22:18 <@NotLarry> Stefanie_TN: I saw Tenticles at the drive in:)
22:18 <@Stefanie_TN> Tenticles?
22:18 <@dasunt> Is Real Sex even interesting?
22:18 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: He wouldn't have secret service with him.
22:18 <@NotLarry> and M*A*S*H, saw that at the drive in as well
22:18 <@Mirage> Evilpig: I can sanitize a laptop for taking to the con with the best of them..
22:18 <@SkyDog_> dasunt: Um, it's the one of the masturbate a thon. All chicks. I guess it's interesting...
22:19 <@Mirage> So ex-VPs get lifetime SS also?  I thought it was only Ex-Pres
22:19 <@Stefanie_TN> I didn't get to see MASH at the theater.
22:20 <@dasunt> Drive ins, you are old, LOL.
22:20 <@SkyDog_> Mirage: Nope. I have been in the residence. There is hardly any security.
22:20  * dasunt looks at himself.
22:20 <@dasunt> I'm still young^Wnot-old!
22:20 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: how is your internet tonight?
22:20 <@ShadowHntr> off to bed for me.
22:20 <@ShadowHntr> cheers.
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22:21 <@Mirage> Appears to be working
22:21 <@dasunt> "We live long and are celebrated poopers!"
22:21 <@Stefanie_TN> I think that Pizza Delivery line is the most used line in any series.
22:22 <@Mirage> Stefanie_TN: which, what, hungh?
22:23 <@dasunt> "In a thousand years, I'll get right on it!"
22:23 <@Stefanie_TN> "Pizza delivery for I.C. Weiner" in Futurama - they refer to it every other episode.
22:23 <@Mirage> oh, i don't watch tht too often
22:24 <@Stefanie_TN> Oh. I watch it because it reminds me of my childhood. Scary, i know.
22:25 <@Evilpig> bad
22:25 <@dasunt> You had a childhood?
22:25 <@Evilpig> I jsut d/c'd
22:26 <@dasunt> Back in my day, we had to march uphill both ways in 6' deep snow as adults.
22:27 <@Stefanie_TN> JK - I was actually born 41yo.
22:35 <@Stefanie_TN> Family Guy is such a step down from Futurama.  :(
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22:38 <@dasunt> Stefanie_TN: It works better if you are drunk.
22:39 <@dasunt> Well, if I'm drunk at least.
22:39 <@Stefanie_TN> Well, if I drink, I'm usually funnier than the show, so that's out.
22:40 <@dasunt> Drink with me.
22:40 <@Stefanie_TN> Saturday - PhreakNIC - O.K. :)
22:40 <@Stefanie_TN> I'll drink for dc0de, since he can't drink anymore. ;)
22:41 <@dasunt> Stefanie_TN: I don't think I can make it.  :(
22:41 <@Stefanie_TN> :(
22:42 <@dasunt> I know.
22:42 <@dasunt> Suckie.
22:42 <@Stefanie_TN> Maybe Outerz0ne?
22:44 <@dasunt> Maybe.  I hope so.
22:45 <@dasunt> Outerzone is Atlanta, right?  Probably a cheaper ticket (there has to be cheap MSP-ATL direct flights, right?)
22:45 <@Stefanie_TN> I would think so... where from?
22:46 <@dasunt> MSP.  Minneapolis-St. Paul.
22:46 <@dasunt> Where I'm exiled to.
22:46 <@SkyDog_> exiled?
22:47 <@dasunt> Yes.
22:47 <@dasunt> Or something.
22:48 <@dasunt> For a short time, at least.
22:48 <@Stefanie_TN> Next on Hard Copy: Exiled in Minneapolis.
22:49 <@dasunt> Minneapolis isn't that bad of a place to be exiled to.
22:49 <@Stefanie_TN> :)
22:49 <@Stefanie_TN> I've been there only once.
22:50 <@Mirage> Heh..moron..they don't HAVE ozone filters in these: http://nashville.craigslist.org/sys/445979240.html
22:50 <@dasunt> We have veg*n restraunts and a decent european minor metal concert scene.
22:50 <@Stefanie_TN> :)
22:50 <@Stefanie_TN> Well, minus the veggie stuff.
22:51 <@dasunt> No decent falafal wraps though.
22:53 <@Stefanie_TN> I usually hang out at the carnivore-friendly establishments.
22:53 <@dasunt> We have some good places like that.
22:54 <@Stefanie_TN> I went to one restaurant there that was good, but I can't remember the name.
22:54 <@Stefanie_TN> Didn't have time to take in the whole city.
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22:55 <@Stefanie_TN> Randy Moss was still there at the time.
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23:24 <@NotLarry> Minneapolis in the winter?  yeah
23:25 <@dasunt> <Rjx> i think the internet makes smart people smarter and stupid people louder
23:25 <@dasunt> <rm-fr> SHUT UP!!!
23:25 <@dasunt> NotLarry: It isn't too bad!
23:25 <@NotLarry> ha,  bad enough it drove me forever to the south
23:25 <@dasunt> *ponders if the homeless people near the Lyndale exit actually leave the underpass in winter*
23:25 <@dasunt> NotLarry: You from the Twin Cities?
23:28 <@dasunt> ~seen catonic
23:28 <+MxZBot> dasunt: i haven't seen 'catonic'
23:28 <@dasunt> o_O
23:31 <@sdodson> .8TB doesn't sound as leet as 800GB
23:31 <@NotLarry> within 500 miles of it.
23:31 <@Mirage> NotLarry: make yourself useful..level my warrior for me
23:31 < eryc> NotLarry has a 200cm long penis
23:32 <@NotLarry> ok, email me the username/password
23:32 <@sdodson> eryc is so chipper
23:32 <@Mirage> Yeah..lke I really expect that.  Besides, I like having my stuff.
23:36 <@Mirage> I cleared out all the Mithril, Thorium, etc bars I had hoarded in the bank.  Probably listed it too low because it didn't last any time at all on the AH..but I did make about 95g.
23:42 <@Evilpig> http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1629.0
23:42 <@Evilpig> new stuff
23:43 <@Mirage> That site hosted on dial-up?
23:44 <@Evilpig> just getting bombarded right now
23:44 <@Evilpig> http://worldofraids.com/  <-- more other info
23:46 <@Evilpig> it's funny that the PTR has been up just like 2 or three hours now and people have already gone into the new zone and started mind visioning around to get the screenshots of the bosses
23:50 <@NotLarry> fucking internet tests at 200k right now:(
23:51 <@Evilpig> I have to get some sleep now.  need to try and get up early tomorrow and hit up Corydon76 about that perl question
23:52 <@NotLarry> pig, is your network slow as shit tonight?
23:52 <@Evilpig> not really
23:52 <@Evilpig> I got booted from wow once.  but that has been happening here lately.
23:53 <@NotLarry> I'm getting download speeds of 13k and testing out at around 200k (instead of the normal 6m)
23:53 <@Evilpig> download from another site
23:53 <@Evilpig> pull something from the office
23:53 <@NotLarry> guess I need to go see what the kid is doing...
23:53 <@Evilpig> if you get a slow pull from the office then call mark tomorrow and see what's up
23:53 <@NotLarry> I tried, got a max speed of 35k
23:53 <@NotLarry> k, thanks
23:53 <@NotLarry> get some rest
23:53 <@Evilpig> just remember  DO NOT CALL MES!
23:53 <@Evilpig> call / email mark directly to have him look into it
23:54 <@Evilpig> if you call you will surely get your service knocked down to shit and he won't help you after that
23:54 <@Corydon76-dig> MES?
23:54 <@Evilpig> murray electric system
23:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
23:55 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-dig!  did you see my question?
23:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, no
23:55 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-dig: one last question.  okay after digging around I think he is only using hte ID of the post to check whether or not it has been posted.  http://pastebin.ca/733786  is that what this part means? next if $seen{ $blog->id . $entry->id };
23:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, although that concatenation isn't exactly effective if both are numeric
23:56 <@Evilpig> entry->id is some funky stuff
23:56 <@Evilpig> http://www.memestreams.net/users/wilpig/blogid10321186/  <--example
23:57 <@Evilpig> so knowing that.  I could put if that time field is null then use the current time as the post time?
23:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: is the id a standard length or is it variable length?
23:57 <@Evilpig> seems variable
23:57 <@Evilpig> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/168552350/article.pl
23:57 <@Evilpig> that is a slashdot one
23:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, variable is bad... you could get false positives and miss articles that way
23:58 <@Corydon76-dig> It'd be better to use an explicit separation character that can never appear in either input (such as ':')
23:59 <@Evilpig> I don't even want to pretend to know how this thing works with movabletype.  I am just trying to get a fix for this time problem.
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