--- Log opened Wed Oct 03 00:00:02 2007
00:00 <@dasunt> I'm exiled to the icy north for awhile, but I have http://cheapodisks.com/
00:00 <@dasunt> Er, cheapodiscs.com
00:00 <@dasunt> But, while they have a good selection, some of my musical tastes are too obscure for them.  :(
00:02 <@dasunt> Oh, and the emo kids keep buying out some of the synthpop bands I'm interested in.  :/
00:03 <@SkyDog_> bastards.
00:03 <@ShadowHntr> dasunt, since when were you into corvus corax?
00:04 <@ShadowHntr> did i introduce you to them? i can't remember...
00:04 <@dasunt> ShadowHntr: Since you recommended them to me.  ;)
00:04 <@ShadowHntr> but they rock :D
00:04 <@ShadowHntr> awesome
00:04 <@ShadowHntr> didn't remember
00:04 <@dasunt> Yah, you linked to the youtube video of them in Berlin.
00:08 <@dasunt> Ha ha:  http://xkcd.com/324/
00:15 <@sasquatc4> anyone ever mess around with a hardware jbod card
00:15 <@sasquatc4> just wonderin if you gotta format all the drives once you have them all attached, or if you can keep existing data
00:21 <@sdodson> normally it's just a scsi interface with like 14 ports
00:22 <@sasquatc4> well i was lookin at gettin one of these finally, http://www.addonics.com/products/raid_system/ast4.asp
00:22 <@sasquatc4> and its a 4 port ide card to usb2.0 jbod
00:24 <@dasunt> If you need special drivers for a JBOD card, run far.
00:24 <@dasunt> (special drivers to format the disks, that is)
00:25 <@sdodson> RAID JBOD...
00:25 <@sasquatc4> yea, i dont think you need special drivers for them, from what i could tell
00:25 <@sdodson> cowfusing
00:25 <@dasunt> 'Cause it will suck if the card ever dies and you have to match the JBOD card just to recover data.
00:26 <@sasquatc4> yea, i checked their downloads section, the only stuff they have for download are basically firmware upgrades for their hardware, dont think they really use any drivers
00:26 <@sdodson> ya, that shit's ok in like servers that you know you'll be able to have serviced and that dell will actually be around through the end of the contract.
00:26 <@sdodson> I'm pretty sure that just presents itself as 4 drives to the OS
00:27 <@sasquatc4> naw, it says you can set it up to either present itself as 1 large drive, or 2 and just combine each IDE chain
00:28 <@dasunt> Just like any decent OS can do?
00:28 <@dasunt> Woot.
00:28 <@sdodson> then it's doing some sort of RAID
00:28 <@dasunt> So instead of using the OS standard software, you can use proprietary drivers to do it in software.
00:29 <@dasunt> sdodson: Not necessarily.  Some hardware is very, very evil.
00:29 <@sasquatc4> yea, but im tryin to do this without having to format, and i also dont have the room in my case for 4 drives, nor do I want that room cause i wanna move to a micro/nano/mini setup
00:29 <@sasquatc4> sdodson: yea, jbod is like raid 0 or somethin
00:29  * sdodson still dumbfounded how people end up with so much crap
00:29 <@dasunt> Wut?  When did RAID 0 become JBOD?
00:29 <@sasquatc4> or concatenation
00:29 <@ShadowHntr> um
00:29 <@sasquatc4> whatever
00:29 <@ShadowHntr> concatenation
00:30 <@dasunt> sdodson: I wouldn't mind ripping my CD collection to a lossless format.
00:30 <@sdodson> ya, I'm about to start that
00:30 <@dasunt> sdodson: That would require about a half terabyte drive now.
00:30 <@sasquatc4> sdodson; its basically a giant media setup, just tired of having it all as seperate drives in external usb enclosures
00:30 <@sdodson> even the crappy chinese bands you're listening to now?
00:31 <@ShadowHntr> i got two 500gb disks to put in my workstation
00:31 <@ShadowHntr> when all the parts come in
00:31 <@dasunt> sdodson: Get it right, I'm listening to crappy northern European bands whose "professional" CDs can't match the quality of Taiwanese pirated CDs.
00:31 <@dasunt> :p
00:31 <@sdodson> I've never had more than one drive in a machine for purposes other than things like installing vista.  And even then i detached the other drive
00:31  * dasunt has two drives -- windows and leenucks.
00:31 <@sasquatc4> just sucks cause im at 1.5TB right now, and runnin low on space, sorta why i want to get this setup, and another 500gb, and make it a nice even 2TB
00:31 <@ShadowHntr> windows and linux dual boot will be my situation.
00:33 <@ShadowHntr> probably fedora.
00:33 <@sasquatc4> so anyways, anyone know if you gotta format or not for that type of jbod? cause i know if your doin it in software, at least on windows, you gotta format
00:33 <@sdodson> probably unless it shows up as 4 discrete drives
00:34 <@sasquatc4> k
00:34 <@sdodson> So lets get this straight, it's all one file system right now?
00:34 <@sasquatc4> they are all the same file system currently
00:34 <@sasquatc4> that would be an obvious deal breaker
00:34 <@dasunt> I don't like more drives.
00:35 <@dasunt> More drives == more chance of failure.
00:36 <@sasquatc4> hmm, perhaps ill go for one of their other solutions then, it tis a good point just for the convenience of 1 drive
00:36 <@sdodson> wonder how long until WD does 1TB
00:36 <@dasunt> Didn't they do that already?
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> western digital
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> *cringes*
00:38 <@sdodson> hey, they did
00:38 <@dasunt> sdodson: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136151
00:38 <@dasunt> sdodson: Wonder no longer.
00:38 <@sdodson> 5400 to 7200 rpm that's sort of hip
00:38 <@sasquatc4> heh, i dont think it matters what brand of hdd someone mentions, there will always be someone else who cringes at them
00:38 <@dasunt> The seagate is $5 more on newegg.
00:38 <@dasunt> I think right now, I'd prefer Seagate to Maxtor.
00:38 <@ShadowHntr> hell even Maxtor is better than WD in my book.
00:38 <@sdodson> it's just like cell providers
00:39 <@sdodson> or banks
00:39  * ShadowHntr swears by Seagate.
00:39 <@dasunt> OTOH, if you are using that drive to store data that isn't easily recovered, it is time for a second drive in a different machine for backups.
00:39 <@sdodson> everyone hates everyone else's preference
00:39 <@sasquatc4> well they did buy them out, i think maxtor is just sorta their low end brand now
00:39 <@sasquatc4> yup
00:40 <@dasunt> For the most part (*cough*IBM/Hitachi exception*cough*) keeping a drive cool and hooked up to a good power supply/UPS will keep most drives running fine.
00:40 <@dasunt> And even the IBM deathstars were limited to just a few models.
00:41 <@sasquatc4> always loved the bigfoots, those old noisy bastards
00:42 <@dasunt> I still see the occasional bigfoot.
00:42 <@Dagmar> Ah yes, the first in a long line of hideously defective products from Quantu
00:42 <@Dagmar> m
00:42 <@dasunt> Sweet spot on drives (looking at newegg) seems to be around the 500GB spot.
00:43 <@Dagmar> dasunt: It's been there for a few months now
00:43 <@dasunt> 750GB may be inching to take its place though on the lowest cost per GB.
00:45 <@dasunt> I see 500GBs for about $110, 750GBs starting at $180.
00:46 <@dasunt> That's only 2 cents more a GB for the 750s.
00:48 <@dasunt> Crap.
00:48 <@dasunt> I just looked up MP3 players that allow SD cards for storage, thinking just of picking up one with no onboard memory.
00:48 <@dasunt> But there is a Sandisk player that goes for $90 and has 4GB of memory onboard.
00:49 <@sasquatc4> i been lookin at those too, the one im sorta settling on is the sandisk sansa express
00:50 <@sasquatc4> has 2gb built in, but then also takes microsd cards for expansion as well
00:50 <@sasquatc4> so you get the best of both worlds, and it can be had for like 65
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00:54 <@sdodson> those microsd cards are tiny!
00:54 <@dasunt> I wouldn't mind a cheap player that takes SD cards, has no onboard memory, but has an LCD display for displaying song title.
00:54 <@dasunt> Oh, and takes AAA batteries.
00:54 <@dasunt> Since I can keep a handful of rechargeable AAA batteries around and not worry about recharging the unit.
00:55 <@ShadowHntr> man
00:55 <@ShadowHntr> it's difficult to find a BT client for unix that doesn't require special libraries
00:55 <@dasunt> That shouldn't be hard to find in the $20-30 range, right?
00:56 <@ShadowHntr> wxPython is giving me problems compiling
00:56 <@ShadowHntr> :P
00:58 <@dasunt> statically compile on another machine?
00:58 <@ShadowHntr> don't have a crosscompiler
00:58 <@ShadowHntr> perhaps i can do x forwarding
00:58 <@ShadowHntr> maybe it'll compile on solaris sparc
00:58 <@dasunt> This is itneresting:  http://www.amazon.com/Folding-Player-Headphones-Card-Slot/dp/B000W5H4N4/ref=sr_1_6/102-8474141-0552132?ie=UTF8&s=audio-video&qid=1191391086&sr=1-6
00:58 <@ShadowHntr> well
00:59 <@ShadowHntr> wxGTK is compiling alright so far
00:59 <@ShadowHntr> maybe after that wxPython will work.
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01:00 <@dasunt> Weird on the headphones though -- no skip ahead/behind button?
01:00 <@ShadowHntr> someninjamaster, sup
01:00 <@ShadowHntr> :)
01:01  * coil starts to fight with dasunt 
01:01 <@someninjamaster> nothing much
01:01 <@someninjamaster> what about you
01:01 <@ShadowHntr> crazy day
01:01 <@ShadowHntr> very traumatizing
01:01 <@ShadowHntr> got a call for a job interview tomorrow
01:01 <@someninjamaster> awesome
01:01 <@ShadowHntr> and this afternoon got in a fender bender :(
01:01 <@someninjamaster> that sucks
01:01 <@ShadowHntr> yeah
01:01 <@ShadowHntr> but nobody was hurt
01:01 <@ShadowHntr> and both cars are still drivable
01:04  * dasunt sets coil on fire with thermite.
01:04 <@ShadowHntr> lol
01:04 <@dasunt> ShadowHntr: Who caused i?
01:04 <@dasunt> er, caused it.
01:04 <@ShadowHntr> probably ends up being my fault
01:04 <@ShadowHntr> "failing to yield"
01:04 <+coil> oh now you learned how to use thermite
01:05 <@ShadowHntr> the truck that i hit came from the other side of a truck in the right lane
01:05 <@ShadowHntr> i had no way of seeing anyone in the left lane
01:06 <@ShadowHntr> it's a treacherous intersection anyway
01:06 <@ShadowHntr> :/
01:06 <@dasunt> :(
01:07 <@dasunt> I may get a failure to yeidl.
01:07 <@dasunt> Fucking cops.
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> well
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> i'm gonna call the city court and see what my options are
01:07 <@dasunt> Yah, and my auto is more or less beyond replacement value.
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> i may be able to get the ticket dropped
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> yeah i hear ya
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> 1981 Volvo 260
01:08 <@ShadowHntr> i found out it has crumple zones lol
01:08 <+coil> omg i had a '80 240 dl :P
01:08 <@dasunt> My auto goes beyond that.
01:08 <+coil> that shit was bad ass
01:08 <@dasunt> I got backed up into by somene in a truck.  His bumper was above my bumper.
01:08 <@dasunt> I was stopped at the time.
01:08 <@ShadowHntr> yikes
01:08 <@dasunt> The official estimate lists $3k worth of damage.
01:08 <@ShadowHntr> good GOD
01:09 <+coil> who needs a hood
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> lol
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> i may
01:09 <@dasunt> I was fond of the condensor myself.
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> :P
01:09 <+coil> or a raidator
01:09 <@dasunt> AC is nice.
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> i need a compressor for the ac
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> coil: still have the volvo?
01:09 <@dasunt> ShadowHntr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsunad/tags/crash/
01:09 <+coil> no...the transmission died :(
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> damn.
01:09 <+coil> it was a coupe too
01:10 <@dasunt> That's a stopped car at parking lot speeds -- he was backing up, probably wasn't doing more than 5 mph.
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> mine is a sedan
01:10 <@dasunt> Of course, if he was paying attention, maybe he wouldn't hav plowed into me without noticing anything.
01:10 <+coil> at least it isn't a station wagon :P
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> true
01:11 <+coil> it was a good car too
01:11 <@someninjamaster> hmm
01:11 <@someninjamaster> my fedex tracking data hasnt changed since friday
01:11 <@someninjamaster> this is starting to concern me
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01:19 <@ShadowHntr> hell my laptop may be delivered tomorrow
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01:25 <@ShadowHntr> Corydon76-dig, who's this year's volunteer coordinator
01:25 <@ShadowHntr> ?
01:27 <@ShadowHntr> never mind
01:27 <@ShadowHntr> wish me luck in my job interview tomorrow at davita
01:27 <@ShadowHntr> :)
01:27 <@ShadowHntr> cheers
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01:32 <@dasunt> Gnight.
01:55 <@Dagmar> Okay.  That's damn annoying
01:57 <@Dagmar> I scraped all the glue off the sensor armature, got it all put back together and only lost one of the teeny weeny little springs, put it all back together, and the damn thing actually DOES have a stripped gear in there somewhere
01:58 <@Dagmar> Fuck,
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02:37 < Perse-Pho> ok, this is annoying...my internet is being very flaky
02:38 < Perse-Pho> could someone kick opheria so i can get my nick back please
02:39 <@someninjamaster>     /nickserv ghost opheria <password>
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02:44 <@Opheria> someninja: thank you
02:47 <@Dagmar> loi
02:47 <@Dagmar> er lo
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02:55 <@SkyDog_> http://www.g33kshoot.com/
02:55 -!- SkyDog_ changed the topic of #se2600 to: http://www.g33kshoot.com |  Hurry up and pre-register for PhreakNIC, be0tches!  | The hotel has less than 30 rooms left for that weekend, so make your reservations today!
02:56 <@someninjamaster> awesome skydog
02:56 <@SkyDog_> Thanks.
02:56 <@SkyDog_> I am working on a forum, but it's a little wonky.
02:56 <@SkyDog_> The gallery of the past two years is there also.
02:56 <@someninjamaster> im just hope the rsos arnt dicks
02:56 <@SkyDog_> Nah. They will be find.
02:56 <@SkyDog_> fine.
02:57 <@SkyDog_> You bringing anything that other people can shoot?
02:57 <@someninjamaster> ill let them shoot any of my stuff
02:57 <@someninjamaster> i need to find out if my dad wants to come
02:57 <@SkyDog_> What are you bringing then? I wanna put them online, and what you prefer to shoot thru them.
02:57 <@someninjamaster> uhh
02:57 <@someninjamaster> mp-15t
02:58 <@someninjamaster> beretta 92fs
02:58 <@SkyDog_> 9mm for the beretta. What about the mp-15t?
02:58 <@someninjamaster> sig 229
02:58 <@someninjamaster> .223
02:58 <@SkyDog_> What brand do you prefer?
02:58 <@someninjamaster> i dont really care
02:59 <@SkyDog_> K.
02:59 <@someninjamaster> the ammo i have been putting through it is some my dad bought cheap at a gun show 2 years ago
02:59 <@someninjamaster> ill proably bring the pp
02:59 <@SkyDog_> AH. so the mp-15t is a .223, right?
03:00 <@someninjamaster> http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/images/firearms/811001_spec_sm.jpg
03:02 <@SkyDog_> WHat's the sig shoot?
03:02 <@someninjamaster> .40
03:02 <@SkyDog_> Cool.
03:02 <@SkyDog_> updating.
03:08 <@SkyDog_> There.
03:09 <@someninjamaster> awesome
03:10 <@someninjamaster> if i can get the radom to shoot reliably ill bring it as well
03:10 <@SkyDog_> Cool.
03:10 <@SkyDog_> What's the link for wilpig's irc stats?
03:11 <@SkyDog_> found it.
03:14 <@SkyDog_> Ok, fuck it. Going home to get some sleep.
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06:52 <@ladymerlin> whee
07:14 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:54 <@Shadow404> someninjamaster: ping
07:54 <@Shadow404> thats the same sig sauer model i have
07:57 <@Shadow404> also go tthe 9mm conversion kit for it
07:57 <@Shadow404> which ill be bringing
08:14 <@someninjamaster> cool
08:15 <@someninjamaster> its proably the best shooting gun in my arsnel
08:23 <@Shadow404> aye, of all the guns ive shot, the sig is the best
08:23 <@Shadow404> the best rifle still has to the the m-4
08:26 <@someninjamaster> if my dad comes ill be bringing the supressor for the mp-15
08:30 <@someninjamaster> this is the dumbest thing i have ever heard
08:30 <@someninjamaster> http://slashdot.org/articles/07/10/03/1221213.shtml
08:30 <@Dolemite> someninjamaster : He should come.  After all, Stefanie_TN is "his kinda woman" from what I hear.
08:31 <@someninjamaster> haha
08:31 <@someninjamaster> i still rag on him about that
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08:34 <@rhia> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22525326-23109,00.html   hazmat team called .... over a spicy dip
08:36 <@Dolemite> the dip, or the exhaust coming from the ass of the one that ate it?
08:44 <@Dagmar> "accidentally strangled herself"
08:44 <@Dagmar> Ri-i-i-ight.
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08:57 <@SkyDog_> morning all.
08:58 < vapor_pda> morning
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09:01 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:02 <@Shadow404> off to work again, boo
09:11 <@nachoguy> http://cgi.ebay.com/Titan-Missile-Base-Central-Washington_W0QQitemZ190132455924QQihZ009QQcategoryZ1607QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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09:15 <@someninjamaster> if i had 1.5 million dollers i would seriosly buy that
09:17 <@nachoguy> http://wcbstv.com/local/local_story_275172255.html
09:17 <@nachoguy> _One student, who is not being identified because of his age, read to CBS 2 what he wrote for the assignment: "Slave labor is the way to go because slaves aren't paid, so all money is profit."_
09:17 <@nachoguy> hahaha
09:19 <@Corydon76-dig> What's surprising is the parents' reaction, which comes down to "Our kids are too stupid to understand."
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09:26 <@Dagmar> lol
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09:33 <@strages> morning all
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09:34 <@tcstool> morning
09:36 < freakn> bleh
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09:38 <@strages> freakn: I didn't say it was a good one
09:38 <@strages> though I can't really complain
09:48 < freakn> I want a lolly pop
09:48 <@Dolemite> Corydon has one for you, just open your mouth
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10:15 <@baudburn> hehe woot
10:15 <@baudburn> mencoder is currently using 365% of my cpu
10:21 <@vaneck> can someone send me the phreaknic itinerary as a vcal/ical?
10:24 <@Dagmar> Already been sent to the mailing list
10:24 <@Dagmar> Like five minutes ago
10:24 <@Dagmar> Eerie, that
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10:25 <@Dagmar> If you have Google Calendar, http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/oqq4s59pd8brotap5ggp565j5s%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics shows up under it's settings
10:25 <@Dolemite> you should send the xml link as well so that people can import into Sunbird, etd.
10:25 <@Dolemite> er, etc.
10:29 <@Dagmar> <iframe src="http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?mode=AGENDA&amp;height=600&amp;wkst=1&amp;bgcolor=%23FFFFFF&amp;src=oqq4s59pd8brotap5ggp565j5s%40group.calendar.google.com&amp;color=%234E5D6C" style=" border-width:0 " width="800" height="600" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe>
10:33 <@vaneck> danke
10:37 <@Dolemite> Thunderbird + Sunbird + Provider for Google Calender = FTW!
10:38 <@baudburn> Dolemite: i got the tv in.. it looks purty
10:41 <@Dolemite> purty on your wall, or purty sitting on a table because you haven't mounted it yet?
10:42 <@baudburn> Dolemite: purty on the floor cause i don't have a second person to lift it up to the brack on the wall yet
10:42 <@baudburn> but damn it large
10:42 <@baudburn> and bright
10:42 <@Dagmar> Pansy
10:42 < MaxieZ> Is the bot working?
10:42 <@Dagmar> !minilink
10:42 < MaxieZ> ~weather 30312
10:42 <+MxZBot> It's Light Rain in Druid Hills/Emory, Atlanta, Georgia. It's 73.5 F (62 M, 23 C, 296 K).
10:43 < MaxieZ> I'm not registered...doh!
10:43 <@baudburn> heh
10:43 <@baudburn> Dagmar: its only 60 lbs
10:43 <@Dagmar> Excatly.
10:43 <@baudburn> its awkward as hell
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10:43 <@Dagmar> You should try lifting the 35" TV I have
10:43 <@Dagmar> I actually think my 19" CRT weighs more than that
10:44 <@baudburn> haha
10:44 <@baudburn> yeah, its crazy how light/thin that thing is
10:44 <@baudburn> 3.5 inches thick, 52 inch diag
10:44 <@Dagmar> Now, if you can't *see* behind the thing to get it on the bracket while you're doing it, that would be good reason to have two people
10:44 <@Dagmar> Other than that, you should be able to lift it
10:45 <@Dagmar> Your arms arne't that much shorter than mine
11:05 <@Shadow_Phone> woot, scotchick just told me the delivery guy witht eh california king sized bed just came in
11:05 <@Shadow_Phone> finally i can sleep with my feet on the bed
11:10 <@Shadow_Phone> the lg dryer came before i left
11:10 <@Shadow_Phone> and now the only people left are crate and barrel with the living room table and entertainment center
11:11 <@brimstone> why the sudden furnature buying?
11:15 <@Evilpig> its monopoly time.
11:25 <@Shadow_Phone> scotchicks promotion and bonus
11:35 <@nachoguy> aww, shadow's got a sugar mama
11:37 <@SkyDog_> She's gonna bang the delivery guy on the new bed...
11:38 <@SkyDog_> you won't even get to break it in proper...
11:38 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl
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11:38  * Shadow_Phone yawns
11:39 <@Shadow_Phone> kicked me cause im not getting upset, heh?
11:39 <@SkyDog_> no, kicked you cause I am tired of your use of southern slang inappropirately.
11:39 <@SkyDog_> I am going to tattoo that on your forehead at PN when you get too drunk. I will have help from others, I assure you.
11:40 <@Shadow_Phone> picking on someone 1/4 your size, thats really impressive
11:41 <@SkyDog_> I don't pick on people 1/4 my size. you're 1/2 my size.
11:41 <@Shadow_Phone> doubt that
11:41 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, at least 1/3
11:41 <@SkyDog_> Well, we'll measure up at PN, how's that.
11:41 <@SkyDog_> you prefer black ink, blue, or red. I have a choice.
11:41 <@Shadow_Phone> so, i dont participate in circle jerks
11:41 <@Shadow_Phone> count me out
11:41 <@Shadow_Phone> *sorry
11:42 <@SkyDog_> I figure that you at least get a choice on color too. I'm nice like that.
11:42 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, doubt that too
11:42 <@SkyDog_> Shadow_Phone: I hear you do participate in circle jerks, hence your reputation.
11:42 <@Shadow_Phone> ick
11:42 <@SkyDog_> Well, I'll pick the color then. I think I will pay a little extra and get pink.
11:42 <@Evilpig> maybe I should retrun to booting you every time you use that "word"
11:43 <@Shadow_Phone> what ever happen to free speech?
11:43 <@Shadow_Phone> oh wait, this is se2600
11:43 <@Evilpig> speech is fine.  crap "words"  liek that are just annoying to us all
11:44 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: I will help you on that.
11:44 <@Shadow_Phone> were if you dont agree with certain people, you get boot banned
11:44 <@Evilpig> lawl is just the sound some people made up to what LOL was.  it isn't a fucking word.  dumbass
11:44 <@Shadow_Phone> nor is lol
11:44 <@SkyDog_> ask aestetix about his favorite word.
11:44 <@Shadow_Phone> last time i checked
11:44 <@ladymerlin> lol is letters that stand for something
11:44 <@Shadow_Phone> SkyDog_: whats that, give me my ID back?
11:44 <@Shadow_Phone> well thats a phrase
11:44 <@SkyDog_> I am offended by it, and I have the ability to kick him. Hence, I do what I feel is necessary.
11:45 <@Shadow_Phone> are you also offeneded by people that eat babies, heh, had to ask
11:45 <@SkyDog_> Shadow_Phone: Yes, I am.
11:45 <@Evilpig> I condone eating babies
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11:45 <@Shadow_Phone> sigh, tastes like chicken
11:45 <@dc0de> sdodson: ping
11:46 <@SkyDog_> Shadow_Phone: No, I believe that he used a slang term for negro. that offends way more people than, 'give me my id back'.
11:46 <@SkyDog_> I will also make sure that I do not get him into any parties next year, and if he's a dick, I will blacklist him from ALL of the good parties. Little prick.
11:46  * Evilpig is away:  fixing shit in the plant
11:51 <@ladymerlin> he did a good job of blacklisting himself from a lot of the partys on his own
11:53 <@SkyDog_> True.
12:10 <@ware> aww dammit i missed out on the circle jerk
12:10 <@ware> temp agency gonna pay me $20 to ghost machines.
12:10 <@ware> crazy
12:10 <@brimstone> yay!
12:11 <@Mirage> 20/hr..20/machine...or just 20?
12:11 <@ware> yeah, i should get 25+/hr for the rest of the shit i do
12:11 <@ware> 20/hr as i understood it
12:12 <@brimstone> i love how you have little experience and less education to back your beliefs of 25+/hr
12:12 <@brimstone> but keep fighting, it's cute
12:12 <+coil> no straight man ever uses cute
12:12 <@ware> brimstone: im leet
12:13 <@ware> l33t!
12:13 <@ware> how much experience do you think i have?
12:13 <@brimstone> 3 years at your last job?
12:13 <@ware> and
12:13 <@brimstone> dunno before that
12:13 <@ware> oh! maybe you shouldnt assume the n00bness then
12:13 <@brimstone> let me see your resume then
12:14 <@ware> just cause i act like a fucktard in here with yall fucktards doesnt mean ima fucktard noob
12:14 <@ware> err
12:14 <@ware> just a sec
12:14 <+coil> i second that!
12:15 <@SkyDog_> ware: How's the job hunt coming?
12:15 <@ware> gotten a few calls saying they will call me back after more review
12:15 <+coil> i havve an interview today
12:15 <@ware> 1 interview that went well, and i got some temp work tomorrow for ~7hrs in nashville
12:16 <@SkyDog_> ware: Cool man. Keep at it. Please don't ever quit one before having another ready.
12:17 <@Evilpig> 3 yrs experience and you want $25 an hour?  WTF?!
12:17 <@ware> yeah im learning that
12:17 <@ware> $300 in the bank w00h00
12:17 <@ware> Evilpig: i want 26/hr
12:18 <+coil> go for 30
12:18 <@Evilpig> you should at least be providing us all bong hits if you want us to believe that you should be making that kinda scratch
12:18 <+coil> yes
12:18 <@Corydon76-dig> What was your degree in again, ware?
12:19 <@Evilpig> <-- Computer Information Systems (AACSB)  "Database Administration"
12:19 <@Corydon76-dig> You don't make that kind of money at your age without at least a Masters or maybe even a Doctorate
12:19 <@ware> thnz for the hazing friends
12:19 <@ware> i <3 you all
12:19 <@brimstone> we're just trying to help :D
12:20 <@ware> i know
12:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Some of us aren't even trying
12:20 <@Evilpig> I have to deal with the fucktards that come into my office wanting that kind of money and don't even know how to use ghost.  I find it rather insulting all that I know people wanting to make decent money doing nothing.
12:21 <@ware> i told the ppl a tthe interview 16/hr fyi cause i know im not worth 25/hr
12:22 <@ware> i am not a fucktard
12:22 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I'm in an argument in another channel with a dork who apparently thinks that filtering log messages into different files requires syslog-ng because a fifo feeding a perl script is dangerously complex
12:22 <@Corydon76-dig> I wouldn't mind making decent money doing nothing, but nobody has offered me a job on the board of directors
12:22 <@Dagmar> I feel your pain.
12:22 <@Dagmar> ware: Fuck them.  If they're paying the other morons $25/hour then ask for $25/hour
12:23 <@Dagmar> Just because you're willing to admit you're an idiot doesn't mean you should be paid any less.
12:23 <@Dagmar> If anything, that probably puts you ahead of several people who think they're *not* idiots.
12:23 <@Evilpig> I loved the last jackass that went from part time to full time at my office.  he suddenly thought he had some type of position and said he wanted a company vehicle, gas card, company amex, benefits, retirement etc.   and the jackass can't ghost a machine
12:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: I just had someone claim yesterday that we should be coding around a stupidity bug on the part of the developers of syslog-ng
12:23 <@Dagmar> lol
12:24 <@Corydon76-dig> so I added a flag for them in the logger... syslog_ng = yes will set the first character of every log message to '_' to avoid the bug
12:25 <@Dolemite> ware : You got yourself a job yet?
12:25 <@dc0de> sdodson: what's the link to the fedora torrents?
12:26  * wizardPC wanders in
12:27 <@wizardPC> hey, I have a masters and make $25/hr, and it took me 3 years to get there, so Corydon76-dig's example is a good one
12:28 <@SkyDog_> I don't have a degree, couldn't tell you how much I make and hour, and don't have a single certification.
12:28 <@SkyDog_> I think I will go have a drink. :)
12:28 <@Evilpig> you work for yourself
12:28 <@SkyDog_> I know.
12:28 <@wizardPC> yeah, but his boss in an asshole :D
12:29 <@SkyDog_> I left the office at somewhere around 4:00 this morning.
12:29 <@wizardPC> ew
12:29 <@SkyDog_> Back at 10:30, and still going.
12:29 <@SkyDog_> but I got alot done.
12:29 <@SkyDog_> wizardPC: yeah, he's an asshole, but i get along with him.
12:29 <@SkyDog_> He has his moments.
12:30 <@wizardPC> so that gig in ATL isnt gonna work out for me
12:30 <@ware> Dolemite: workin on it
12:30 <@SkyDog_> wizardPC: How come?
12:31 <@wizardPC> if you were hired 3 months ago, base was $85k +bonuses +etc...
12:31 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: are those moments like alheimerz setting in?
12:31 <@wizardPC> if you get hired today, it's $60k base
12:31 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: Actually, yes. It's quite scary.
12:31 <@wizardPC> so, fuck that for 100% travel
12:32 <@SkyDog_> wizardPC: Agreed.
12:32 <@Evilpig> as long as they pay travel expense that isn';t bad really
12:32 <@wizardPC> if I do 30% travel here I'll beat that
12:32  * wizardPC does math
12:32 <@wizardPC> make that 20%
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12:36 <+coil> 16%
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12:49  * wizardPC heads back to the office
12:50 <@SkyDog_> Ok, I found out some interesting trivia...
12:51 <@SkyDog_> Does anyone know what a "schmuck" is?
12:52 <@ladymerlin> an asshole?
12:53 <@ladymerlin> or anyother word along those lines
12:53 <@SkyDog_> Nope. It's the bit of skin that gets discarded when someone gets circumcised.
12:53 <@SkyDog_> I had no idea.
12:53 <@SkyDog_> I will use that term more judiciously now, if not more often.
12:53 <+coil> uncut is better
12:54 < vapor_pda> that is rather interesting.
12:54 <@SkyDog_> coil: Based on what?
12:54 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: you schmuck
12:55 <@SkyDog_> yeah whatever, dick rememnants.
12:56 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: based on taste
12:56 <@Evilpig> love my job at times.  customer is sitting here telling me to get data off a laptop that won't turn on and I don't have my usb cable with me
12:56 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: Um... Ok. Take your word for it.
12:56 <@Corydon76-dig> lol
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13:16 <@someninjamaster> i have decided that i want to live in a icbm launch facility
13:17  * Evilpig prays for an active one
13:17 <@Evilpig> was that outloud?  shit
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13:54 <@someninjamaster> damn buy.com
13:54 <@Dolemite> what'd they do to you now?
13:55 <@Evilpig> sold him a run down abandoned missile site
13:55 <@Dolemite> Yeah, but he saved $10 with Google Checkout
13:56 <@Evilpig> god bless google
13:56 <@someninjamaster> well they say they shiped my tomtom last thursday
13:57 <@someninjamaster> and they say it has left the warehouse
13:57 <@someninjamaster> but fedex shows no record of it being picked up yet
13:59 <@Evilpig> at least you don't have fedex saying it was delivered and it hasn't been
13:59 <@someninjamaster> yeah
13:59 <@Evilpig> cause that happened to mine
13:59 <+coil> thieves
13:59 <@someninjamaster> thats why i have everything shipped to the office
14:00 <@someninjamaster> that and when you get orders from places like Tactical shotguns inc. it keeps the people inline
14:00 <@dc0de> heh... someninjamaster, nice idea.
14:01 <@someninjamaster> the ones from mesa tactical are the best ones
14:01 <@someninjamaster> this is printed on the box
14:02 <@someninjamaster> http://www.mesatactical.com/images/mesa_tactical_logo_master_for_web_green_bg.gif
14:03 <@Dagmar> Make some people's day.
14:04 <@Dagmar> Have the next ones shipped postal mail.
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14:19 <@SkyDog_> Ok, I know I am tired, but CLEARLY, I have had enough from everyone here today. Sigh.
14:24 <@someninjamaster> FUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
14:24 <@someninjamaster> omg  this is bad
14:24 <@someninjamaster> this is really bad
14:25 <@strages> ?
14:25 <@SkyDog_> Then put it down and walk away.
14:25 <@someninjamaster> someone here hasnt posted the credit cards since may 4th
14:25 <@SkyDog_> Um.
14:25 <@SkyDog_> Someone is getting fired.
14:25 <@SkyDog_> Why haven't they?
14:25 <@someninjamaster> we have 37,000 dollers floating out there
14:26 <@someninjamaster> i have told you about my great aunt havnt i
14:26 <@SkyDog_> I think you have said some...
14:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Family business.  Nobody will get fired.
14:26 <@someninjamaster> all of the auth numbers expire in a week
14:27 < vapor_pda> havnt
14:34 <@someninjamaster> thi
14:35 <@someninjamaster> this is going to be a long drawn out process
14:36 <@SkyDog_> Hell yeah it is.
14:36 <@Dolemite> w00f
14:37 <@SkyDog_> W00f!
14:37 <@Dolemite> What's happenin'?
14:41 <@SkyDog_> Sigh.
14:41 <@SkyDog_> Let's see.
14:42 <@SkyDog_> Building a freebsd box, watching traffic flows to determine who's using all of teh bandwidth, building a win2k box for the owner here, and setting up my little IBM to break WEP for a test.
14:42 <@SkyDog_> other than that, chatting on IRC, and drinking coffee.
14:42 <@Dolemite> and masturbating
14:42 <@SkyDog_> Well, that goes without saying.
14:43 <@Dolemite> yeah, same here
14:43 <@Dolemite> Well, except for the technical stuff you listed
14:43 <@SkyDog_> I just got an email from the client in LaVergne. One of the IT guys goes to his manager and says, ya know, 4.5 Megs of bandwidth isn't enough to support the link between buildings... We should find something else, like this solution. He just got yelled at, and now is leaving the IT team to go back on the production line.
14:44 <@Dolemite> but I am chatting on IRC and masturbating
14:44 <@SkyDog_> He's got a great work ethic, and he's intellligent.
14:44 <@Dolemite> Heh, okey dokey then.
14:44 <@SkyDog_> whacking one out over that pic of ANS?
14:44 <@Dolemite> Yeah, you know that little bit of puke on a passed out woman just cranks my tractor
14:45 <@SkyDog_> hella hot.
14:46 <@Dolemite> that and thinking about Britney's sex tape
14:46 <@SkyDog_> Unnghh! damn, just came. whew!
14:46 <@I-MOD> spears is finally making/made one?
14:47 <@Dolemite> apparently the tool she hooked up with in Hawaii recorded them going at it
14:47 <@I-MOD> lol
14:48 <@SkyDog_> Sheesh. I don't think I would tell the world I stuck my dick in her.
14:48 <@SkyDog_> I mean, a few years ago, yeah, but not now.
14:49 <@Dolemite> You've grown
14:49 <@Dolemite> Matured
14:49 <@Dolemite> And the sores finally healed
14:49 <@Dolemite> So did you read about our former president Jimmy Carter and his balls of steel?
14:50  * I-MOD hasn't
14:50 <@Dolemite> Go check any of the news sites
14:51 <@SkyDog_> I have not. I will forego any usefull work to check out Jimmy's balls.
14:51 <@Dolemite> He is in Darfur trying to negotiate some peace talks...  he tried to veer off of the agenda and the Darfur military told him that he couldn't go...   so Jimmy says, "I'll go where I want, you don't have the power to stop me!"
14:51 <@Dolemite> Keep in mind that Jimmy Carter still has a Secret Service detachment with him for life
14:51 <@baudburn> holy crap
14:52 <@baudburn> thats awesome
14:52 <@Dolemite> Sir Richard Branson is with him in Darfur, too
14:52 <@baudburn> what is the reaction to that?
14:52 <@baudburn> from the military
14:52 <@baudburn> also, i doubt that the secret service could do much against an amry if they really wanted to do shit
14:53 <@Dolemite> they settled on bringing the tribal leaders to the conference...  but the leaders had stayed away in the beginning for fear of retaliation, so I don't know what good it's doing
14:54 <@baudburn> i hear the president is vetoing a bill that would provide insurance for childern
14:55 <@baudburn> man, he's totally awesome
14:55 <@baudburn> what a good guy
14:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Because, you know, paying for children's health insurance is bad.
14:55 <@baudburn> no doubt
14:55 <@baudburn> fuck them
14:55 <@baudburn> if they ain't rich, that aint my problem
14:56 <@rhia> well, his insurance has always been paid for ~shrug~
14:56 <@baudburn> makes sense to me
14:56 <@baudburn> these freakingpeople should just stop being poor
14:56 <@baudburn> whats wrong with them
14:57 <@baudburn> its like they like not having money
14:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Don't forget his college term paper.  People are poor because they're lazy.
14:57 <@Dolemite> He vetoed it because it wasn't for "poor kids"...  it was for those whose families make too much for Medicaid (ok, so about $14,000 per year for the whole family)
14:57 <@baudburn> Corydon76-dig: i'm not familiar with what you're referencing
14:58 <@Corydon76-dig> baudburn: he wrote a paper expressing that notion in college.  Came out during the 2000 election season
14:58 <@baudburn> Dolemite: exactly.. if you make that much, you can give some of it to insurance compannies
14:58 <@Dolemite> Well, Medicaid covers poor kids, so why can't we now take care of that gap in between?
14:58 <@someninjamaster> i have mixed feelings about insurance
14:58 <@Dolemite> baudburn : Yep, I could totally see me and my wife and son living on $14,000 per year while paying $200/month in health insurance!
14:58 <@someninjamaster> i have watched people at my own company screw tencare out of a shitton of money
14:58 <@baudburn> Dolemite: exactly! me too
14:59 <@Dolemite> someninjamaster : That's because TennCare was so fucked up for years
14:59 <@baudburn> you know, if the kids are poor, its probably better for them if they just die early
14:59 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: I'm not exactly in disagreement with you.  I think insurance should be something that you buy just in case, but which most people should never have to use
14:59 <@baudburn> instead of having high aspirations and then just failing to reach them...
14:59 <@baudburn> .. because they're poor
15:00 <@baudburn> so we should just let them die young.. better for them, better for us
15:00 <@someninjamaster> i think everyone needs insurace
15:00 <@Corydon76-dig> just like home owner's insurance.  I hope to god I never have to make a claim on that policy.  But it's there just in case.
15:00 <@someninjamaster> but i think alot  of people want to defraud the goverment to get it
15:01 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: I just had a realization.  That argument is exactly the opposite of the NRA's about gun control
15:02 <@someninjamaster> explain further
15:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Criminals are going to own guns anyway, so why ban guns for the rest of us?  versus  People are going to defraud the government anyway.  Why should that stop the rest of us from having health insurance?
15:03 <@someninjamaster> however people arnt activly stealing from the goverment and the taxpayers with guns
15:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Same logic, though
15:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Sure, you give people guns or health insurance, and some of them are going to abuse the privilege.  Why should that matter to the rest of us?
15:05 <@someninjamaster> because its drawing a huge ammount of tax dollers
15:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Right, so you punish the law breakers in both cases, and everybody else gets what they want
15:06 <@someninjamaster> i would get behind the insurace plan if it was regulated to some extent
15:06 <@someninjamaster> not a free for all like tencare was
15:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Um, insurance is already heavily regulated
15:07 <@Corydon76-dig> The problem with Tenncare isn't lack of regulation, it's lack of enforcement
15:08 <@Dolemite> Yeah, enforcement is definitely the problem with TennCare
15:09 <@Dolemite> If everybody were honest, it wouldn't be so hard to justify as a social program
15:09 <@someninjamaster> right
15:09 <@Dolemite> That and giving the state the ability to set limits on coverage helped a lot
15:09 <@someninjamaster> i had workers that would quit middle of the day so they could stay on ten care
15:10 <@Dolemite> When the *average* number of monthly prescriptions for all of TN is in the double digits, you got way too many people taking way too many pills
15:10 <@Dolemite> someninjamaster : Does your company offer health insurance?
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15:12 <@Evilpig> wtf is up with TN to be taking that much in meds?  I mean I have 4 myself and I think that is too many
15:12 <@someninjamaster> yes
15:12 <@Dolemite> Yes, it's totally fucked up
15:12 <@baudburn> i have 0
15:12  * baudburn does a happy dance
15:12 <@Dolemite> someninjamaster : Then yeah, that was a complete abuse of the system
15:12 <@someninjamaster> yep
15:12 <@Dolemite> I have 0 regularly recurring prescriptions
15:13 <@someninjamaster> the guy pulling this shit was making a 22 dollers an hour
15:13 <@Dolemite> 'cept for penicillin, cuz of that time with Skydog in the hotel...  but we were drunk
15:13 <@Dolemite> anyway, I'm out
15:13 <@someninjamaster> i have one
15:13 <@Corydon76-dig> I also have 0, but I haven't been to see a doctor in 5 years
15:13 <@someninjamaster> which has a 120 doller deductable
15:14 <@someninjamaster> other than that one i havent had any sort of meds that was over 15 bucks
15:15 <@Evilpig> I have two that are $30 and one that is $60 a month.  
15:15 <@Corydon76-dig> OTC meds rock
15:15 <@Evilpig> the other isn't covered by insurance at $259 a month.  but htat is supposed to drop to $60 after I have my doc send a letter to the insurance comany
15:16 <@someninjamaster> the only nice thing about the 120 doller one is its not an everyday thing
15:16 <@someninjamaster> only when needed
15:16 <@Evilpig> this server has been up 356 days now and MSSQL is consuming 2.5GB of ram
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15:41 <@someninjamaster> skydog_ have you thought of making g33k shoot tshirts
15:44 <@Mirage> Bulls-eye on the front, silouette on the back?
15:45 <@SkyDog_> Not a bad idea mirage!
15:45 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: If I have time...
15:46 <@someninjamaster> i figured you could make up the cash you spend on ammo for it
15:46 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_, the interview was AWESOME
15:46 <@SkyDog_> Curtis is a punk.
15:46 <@Mirage> don't forget the fake bullet holes and blood..nowhere near the center of the targets
15:46 <@ShadowHntr> lol
15:46 <@nachoguy> Curtis?
15:46 <+MxZBot> curtis is a punk.
15:46 <@nachoguy> haha, thanks bot
15:47 <@SkyDog_> whee!
15:53 <@Corydon76-dig> So, you think criticalmass will stay in my room at PN?
15:53 <@nachoguy> corydon, ducttape, handcuffs, and bondage gear say yes
15:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, is he into bondage?
15:56 <@SkyDog_> sigh.
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16:00 <@Mirage> someone needs to warn him not to sleep on his stomach
16:01 <@wizardPC> Can I just point out something about SCHIP that you guys may have missed?
16:02 <@wizardPC> "poor" families were classifed as anyone making less than $83,000 a year
16:02 <@wizardPC> and the "children" could be up to age 25
16:03 <@wizardPC> thats why it was vetoed
16:04 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardPC: what's wrong with that?
16:05 <@rhia> wizardPC: k, but, on the same vein, how much is comprehensive medical insurance for a family of 4 NOT supplemented by an employer?
16:05 <@someninjamaster> i say make the employeers pay it
16:06 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: an unfunded mandate?
16:06 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: that FAR worse than the government just paying for it
16:06 <@wizardPC> i agree
16:06 <@rhia> someninjamaster: k, how bout consultants, mom & pop family businesses where the only employees are mom & pop?
16:06 <@rhia> etc etc
16:07 <@someninjamaster> where i work is a family biz
16:07 <@someninjamaster> be have 30 employees out of those 10 people are family
16:07 <@someninjamaster> we pay a ton of money every year for health insurance
16:08 <@wizardPC> so who here works for a company that doesnt supplement their health insurance?
16:08 <@wizardPC> b/c rhia makes a good point...how much is health insurance for a family of 4?
16:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Until recently, I had NO health insurance
16:09 <@rhia> comprehensive, not just health care or major medical - both
16:10 <@someninjamaster> thats what we do
16:10 <@rhia> and, it may be illegal to fire someone who has unusually high insurance claims on company supplemented insurance, but, try Proving it unless someone at the company is stupid enough to say it outright
16:10 <@someninjamaster> along with dental
16:12 <@rhia> amazing how dragon had an exemplary review  just before my son's accident - and somehow was 'no longer a good fit' (at a job he'd had for nearly 2 years and was well liked and respected) once the bills rolled in ....
16:13 <@rhia> sheer coincidence, of course
16:15 <@rhia> in co-pays, non-matched, insurance loopholes and then losing the insurance before therapy was over, we were out $55K from our own pockets ... which was still less than 1/10 of the total cost  ....
16:16 <@rhia> didn't help that his accident came 1.5 yrs after my own, which was $75K by itself
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16:18 <@rhia> so, yeah, i'm probably a little .... touchy ... on insurance & health care ~shrug~
16:21 <@wizardPC> okay, according to BCBST.com, family of 4 can get A58 PremierBlue with a $5,000 deductible for....
16:21 <@wizardPC> $249/month
16:23 <@Corydon76-dig> What's the deductible on the S-CHIP program?
16:27 <@rhia> long list of exclusions for BCBST ... also, don't see a cap mentioned ... is there not one?
16:28 <@rhia> granted, most make a lot of sense, but staff consultations?
16:30 <@rhia> http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml
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16:32 <@rhia> yeah, yeah, "oh, it smells liberal" ... whatever... just cuz the elephant in the living room stinks doesn't mean it's ok to ignore it
16:34 <@rhia> on a side tangent, why, WHY, are dental and vision separate? last i checked the mirror, my teeth and eyes are part of my body, like my heart, liver, and toes.
16:35 <@rhia> and bad teeth can lead to all KINDS of health issues, some really nasty
16:35 <@wizardPC> like heart disease, of all things
16:35 <@rhia> yeup
16:35  * rhia is done ranting - for now
16:37 <@wizardPC> so did you guyd end up coming up with the 55k?
16:37 <@devemo> SkyDog_: ping
16:37 <@SkyDog_> POng.
16:38 <@devemo> SkyDog_: Is now a good time to talk to my mom?
16:38 <@rhia> wizardPC: have been for the last few years ....
16:38 <@SkyDog_> wizardPC: Rhia has been killin' suckas on the side on the weekends.
16:38 <@SkyDog_> devemo: I can't at the moment. Sorry, juggling flaming babies.
16:38 <@rhia> SkyDog_: nah, i don't work weekends <g>
16:39 <@devemo> lol
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16:40 <@rhia> wizardPC: and the medical field does some shady juggling to claim that the medical bills are not, in fact, medical, so old accounts, accounts that never sent bills, etc can show up on credit reports ...
16:40 <@rhia> and are then a major PITA to get rid of
16:41 <@rhia> you dispute (some were already paid), they disappear, then magically reappear months later under a different name, to repeat the process all over
16:42 <@wizardPC> yeah, that's the collections industry for ya
16:42 <@rhia> i'm in the habit now of keeping all bills and all bank statements for at least 10-12 years, not just the usually recommended "pay & toss" for bills and 2 years for statements
16:43 <@rhia> it has come in handy on numerous occasions to be able to go back 3 or 4 years and send photocopies
16:44 <@wizardPC> thats a good idea, because I hear stories *all the time* about people who have cancelled checks for bills they paid 5 years ago, but then get sued
16:44 <@wizardPC> and THEY have to prove they paid it
16:44 <@rhia> yeup
16:47 <@rhia> and some of the bills themselves seem rather ... questionable ... doctors we never saw, procedures that weren't done (but billed for), etc ... fricking nightmare
16:49 <@rhia> didn't help that he was attended to at three different hospitals, not to mention all the various after care physicians, therapies, etc etc etc
16:51 <@wizardPC> I guess that's another upside of how I live my life--it is not possible for me to care less what my credit report says, so if something questionable pops up, they can sue me and we'll let the judge figure put that i dont owe them
16:51 <@rhia> if our health care system is really "the best in the world" as some pundits claim ... gawds help the people on this planet
16:52 <@wizardPC> our health CARE system is the best in the world
16:52 <@Evilpig> you in canada now?
16:52 <@baudburn> its not the best, but id say it is the most advanced
16:52 <@rhia> wizardPC: um, you own your own home, no mortgage?
16:52 <@wizardPC> there is a difference between health CARE and health INSURANCE
16:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Right, health insurance actually means the providers get paid
16:53 <@wizardPC> rhia: manual underwriting--the way mortgages were made BEFORE fair isaacs
16:53 <@rhia> baudburn: one of, yes, the skandinavians are pretty technically medically advanced as well
16:53 <@baudburn> Corydon76-dig: get paid what the insurance companies feel like paying them
16:54 <@baudburn> rhia: from discoveries/techinques largely discovered here
16:54 <@Corydon76-dig> baudburn: it's better than providing services in the ER and getting paid nothing
16:54 <@baudburn> Corydon76-dig: no doubt.
16:54 <@rhia> wizardPC: ah, cuz if you have to rent, your credit score can keep you out of some of the better places, all kinds of other pitas
16:55 <@rhia> baudburn: and in japan ... they do some freaky research there <g>
16:55 <@baudburn> heh
16:55 <@baudburn> point is, if you have some crazy wacky thing, the best surgeons in teh world are here.. if youc an afford them
16:55 <@baudburn> problem is, for 99% of things, you don't need that
16:56 <@rhia> wizardPC: think i was stressing the comment more in health care SYSTEM, but , note taken
16:56 <@baudburn> you just need a doctor who can say "yup, thats standard xxxxx.. take t his, you'll be fine"
16:57 <@wizardPC> rhia: I rent now
16:57 <@wizardPC> in a very nice place
16:57 <@Corydon76-dig> baudburn: diagnosing, though, is half the battle.  If you're not diagnosed correctly, the medicine won't do a damn
16:58 <@baudburn> yeah
16:58 <@wizardPC> Corydon76-dig, exactly. Take my dad, who went in because of a cough, and then was subsequently diagnosed with...
16:58 <@wizardPC> bronchitis
16:58 <@wizardPC> walking pnuemonia
16:58 <@baudburn> well, really, the problem i see is that 99% of shit could be takenc are of if we believed in preventative medicine
16:59 <@wizardPC> and filnally...lung cancer
16:59 <@baudburn> instead we wait tills omeone is dieing to do something about it
16:59 <@rhia> baudburn: blasphemy!
16:59 <@baudburn> and the costs go throught the roof
16:59 <@wizardPC> heh im getting my yearly phsyical the day before PN0x0b
16:59 <@rhia> in the land of the obese and the home of fast food...
17:00 <@baudburn> hah
17:00 <@baudburn> rhia: i don't eat that shit
17:00 <@rhia> and the 'wellness' packages offered by most insurance companies are worse than jokes
17:00 <@rhia> baudburn: same here
17:01 <@baudburn> woord
17:01 <@baudburn> anyway, its quitting time
17:01 <@baudburn> so i quit
17:01 <@rhia> didn't for years, now if i try, i get ill ... can't even drink a cola anymore  (thankfully)
17:01  * rhia waves
17:01 <@baudburn> hah
17:02 <@baudburn> yeah, i don't do cola
17:02 <@baudburn> or any soda/pop
17:02 <@baudburn> later
17:02 <@Mirage> i do when i feel the need for sugar, but that's not too often
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17:04 <@rhia> Mirage: that's what Schnapps is for <g>
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18:06 <@Shadow_Phone> damn, first time the shells gone down in 2 months
18:06 <@Shadow_Phone> very impressed
18:07 <@Shadow_Phone> my $5 a month anually is well worth it
18:07 <@Shadow_Phone> er, $5 anually
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18:26 <@Shadow_Phone> so anway, im sorta pissed off at macys
18:26 <@Shadow_Phone> they sent us the california king sized bed frame, but the memory foam matress deuluxe wasnt included int he deliver, so we have a frame, but no fucking matress
18:27 <@Shadow_Phone> why they couldnt of called us the to warn us, before we took the old bed out of the room
18:27 <@Shadow_Phone> sigh
18:30 <@wizardPC> http://www.google.com/intl/xx-hacker/
18:31 <@wizardPC> Google in l33tsp34k should cheer you up
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18:39 <@Shadow_Phone> no, this cheers me up
18:39 <@Shadow_Phone> see it is in the dictionary!!!!
18:39 <@Shadow_Phone> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lawl
18:40 <@Shadow_Phone> any questions
18:45 <@Evilpig> urbandictionary is not a valid literary source
18:45 <@Evilpig> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=badonkadonk  <--example
18:46 <@Shadow_Phone> i used that with my english teacher last term paper and got a 100
18:46 <@Shadow_Phone> so whats wrong with that word?
18:46 <@Evilpig> it's not real!
18:46 <@Shadow_Phone> she liked it?
18:47 <@Shadow_Phone> aka i passed her class i only atended twice throughout the semester
18:47 <@sdodson> she just thought you were in special ed and took it easy on you
18:47 <@sdodson> It's a depressing realization.
18:48 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, in all actuallity, i took special ed math for algebra 2, but was acing all my other classes and took honors spanish
18:48 <@sdodson> Man, I almost feel bad now, lawl
18:49 <@Shadow_Phone> na, i just dont get math
18:49 <@Shadow_Phone> cant grasp algebra like other people can
18:49 <@Shadow_Phone> aka, not a programmer
18:49 <@sdodson> me either, took me 4.5 years to figure that out
18:50 <@Shadow_Phone> it really pisses me off when scotchick says she only took math one semster in college and they took it out of her cirriculum cause she aced every test
18:51 <@Shadow_Phone> and i have to use tutors just to pass trig 1
18:51 < eryc> what is her major?
18:51 <@Shadow_Phone> (was) doctorates chemistry
18:51 < eryc> trig 1 was kind of a pain, lots of memorization
18:51 <@Shadow_Phone> aye
18:51 <@Shadow_Phone> and numbers i cant remember worth a shit
18:52 <@sasquatc4> sohcahtoa ftw!
18:52 < eryc> i just recited the formulas over and over until they stuck backwards and forwards
18:52 < eryc> i took trig1 online and at a testing center so i missed the refresh of clever acronyms
18:53 <@sdodson> I took both of my calculus courses twice
18:53 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, same here
18:53 < eryc> i started a calc class out of high school but i moved and dropped it
18:53 <+coil> hi
18:54 < eryc> when i went back a few years later they made me start with trig1 :/
18:54 <@Shadow_Phone> still got trig 2 to complete my core for bachelors
18:54 <@Shadow_Phone> waiting for internap to pay for my classes in dec before i go back to college at georgia tech
18:57 < eryc> http://www.nubricks.com/worlds-largest-swimming-pool.html
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19:06 <+coil> hi Shadow404
19:06 <+coil> Shadow_Phone,
19:09 <@sdodson> eryc: nice!
19:20 <@ShadowHntr> *ping*
19:30 <@sdodson> hi
19:31 <+coil> hi sdodson
19:31 <+coil> how are you doing
19:32 <@sdodson> good, how are you?
19:32 <+coil> waiting on more beer :P
19:33 <@sdodson> aren't you like an 11yrold?
19:33 <+coil> only if you want me to be
19:35 <@sdodson> i'm not corydon!
19:37  * coil snickers
19:37 <+coil> you want a snicker?
19:38 <+coil> snickers bar?
19:38  * freakn does
19:38 <+coil> theres a price to pay
19:38 < freakn> do I have to kill someone again?
19:39 <+coil> no, nothing like that
19:46 <@Psyiode> http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=622375
19:46 <@Psyiode> free medium pizza from dominos
19:46 <@Psyiode> dunno if it work in nashville/atlanta but does in phoenix
19:49 <@Corydon76-dig> freakn: I'll trade you a pack of Snickers bars... ;-)
19:50 <+coil> omg im sick of pizza
19:50 <+coil> even though im eating a slice right now, hey free food is better then no food
19:52 <@sdodson> ya
19:52 <+coil> ya ya stfu
19:53 <@sdodson> ass
19:55  * coil tries the dominos coupon
19:55 <+coil> hey frreee pizza
19:56 <+coil> aww
19:56 <+coil> click is not a vaild coupon code
19:59 <@Psyiode> awww
19:59 <@Psyiode> mine just got delivered
19:59 <+coil> tip your delivery driver
19:59 <+coil> i always get pissed when people dont tip
19:59 <@Psyiode> the delivery lady was asking about it, i thought she wasnt going to give me the pizza
19:59 <@Psyiode> i did
19:59 <@Psyiode> hehe
19:59 <@Psyiode> but i was like yeah just some online deal
19:59 <+coil> how much did you tip
19:59 <+coil> 2 aint enough
19:59 <@Psyiode> and shes like oh i bet its a corporate screw up, im going to have to call all my friends and let them know hehe
20:00 <@Psyiode> i gave her a 5 for a 1.89 pizza
20:00 <@Psyiode> all i had
20:00 <+coil> haha
20:00 <+coil> good job Psyiode
20:00 <+coil> im proud of you that's a good tip
20:00 <+coil> sorry i deliver pizzas...
20:00 <@Psyiode> i generally tip ok
20:00 <@Psyiode> at the bar too
20:00 <@Psyiode> hehe
20:00 <@Psyiode> faster service in the future and all
20:01 <+coil> delivery charge 1.75?
20:01 <@Psyiode> just tax actually i think
20:01 <@Psyiode> i dont think there was a delivery charge
20:01 <@Psyiode> im not 100% illc heck
20:01 <@Psyiode> ah yeah
20:01 <@Psyiode> .14 tax, 1.75 delivery charge
20:01 <+coil> yep i know my shit...
20:01 <@Psyiode> you so smart
20:01 <@sasquatc4> thats what i always wondered, does the delivery charge end up going back to the delivery guys, sort of like a built in tip, or is that just a dickish corporate move
20:02 <+coil> no
20:02 <+coil> sasquatc4, drivers only get a fraction (usually a dollar) for gas
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20:02 <@sasquatc4> ahh
20:02 <+coil> so people think that's the tip, so they dont tip...
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20:02 <+coil> so tip your drivers!!!!
20:02 <+coil> we need money to do costly repairs to our cars
20:02 <@sasquatc4> yup, i still usually tip anyway, would tip more if that delivery charge wasnt on there
20:03 <+coil> just bitch your pizza was late, even if you didn't order
20:03 <+coil> usually they will send a free pizza
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20:13 <@dasunt> Meh.
20:13 <@sdodson> yhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu``````````````````````````
20:14  * dasunt kills himself.
20:14 <@dasunt> Okay, so I went apartment hunting.
20:14 <@dasunt> I have come to the conclusion that some people can't live by themselves.
20:15 <@dasunt> In related news, finding an apartment that allows cats is harder than hell since it appears that seemingly half the population don't care if their felines use the carpet as a litter box.
20:16 <@sdodson> my cat uses the carpet as a scratching post
20:17 <@dasunt> It is people like you that makes it hard to have clawed cats and rent.
20:17 <@dasunt> My cats, btw, use their four cardboard scatchy thingies as scratching posts.
20:17 <@sdodson> wtf am i supposed to do?
20:18 <@dasunt> sdodson: Get something else for it to scratch.
20:18 <+coil> kill the fucking cat
20:18 <@Psyiode> kick them
20:18 <+coil> cats fucking suck
20:18 <@sdodson> I've got like 80 fucking things for the turd factory to scratch
20:18 <@sdodson> he's just fucking stupid
20:19 <@dasunt> sdodson: You tried the cheap cardboard thingies yet?
20:19 <+coil> beat his ass
20:19 <@dasunt> They are pretty good.
20:19 <@dasunt> coil: FYI, you lay one hand on my cats and they will not find your genitals.
20:19 <@sdodson> I've got a Cosmic Alpine Scratcher!
20:19 <+coil> i got one of the fucking cats to fucking hate me cuz i torchred it enough
20:19 <@sdodson> dasunt: they don't find them as it is
20:19  * dasunt snickers.
20:20 <+coil> it runs away when i comes towards it
20:20 <@sdodson> http://www.pet-dog-cat-supply-store.com/shop/cosmic-alpine-scratcher.php
20:20 <+coil> then i catch it and throw it outside
20:20 <@dasunt> sdodson: Weird.  My cats love the flat ones.
20:21 <@dasunt> Okay, your cat just hates you.
20:21 <@sdodson> it's a cat, they're designed to hate and generally suck
20:21 <@sdodson> his only redeeming quality is that chicks find him cute
20:22 <@dasunt> My cats love me.
20:22 <@dasunt> Seriously.
20:22 <@dasunt> I'm the combination of Christ and Elvis to them.
20:23 <+coil> it's not my cat
20:23 <@sasquatc4> yea, thats what they want you to think, until they grow large enough to kill and eat you
20:23 <+coil> so that's why i piss it off
20:23 <@dasunt> Oh, I fully understand that my cats will eat me upon my death.
20:23 <@sdodson> you're fat with a mullet?
20:23 <+coil> cuz it wont hurt a human
20:23 <+coil> so i have no scratches or anythin
20:23 <+coil> so i just beat the fuck out of it
20:24 <+coil> it helps me with my anger towards cats
20:24 <+coil> we have 3 cats and 7 kittens, fuck that shit
20:24 <+coil> i hate them all
20:24 <@sdodson> ya, drown some of them quick before anyone gets attached
20:24 <@dasunt> coil: It is called 'spaying'.
20:24 <+coil> it's fun throwing them
20:24 <+coil> dasunt, my roommates are too cheap for that...
20:25 <@dasunt> coil: Castrate them in the middle of the night.
20:25 <+coil> i dunno how to castrate them
20:25 <+coil> one of them is neutard
20:25 <@dasunt> The roommates?  Probably with a sharp knife.
20:25 <@sdodson> didn't aestetix have this same problem?
20:25 <@sasquatc4> id prolly hate cats and small dogs less if the ones i lived with were spayed and neutered, but their owners refused to do that and it was annoying as shit
20:25 <@dasunt> There is the rubber band method, but that takes several days and your roommates would probably catch on.
20:26 <+coil> i could probably kill one of them
20:26 <@dasunt> sasquatc4: IMO, not spaying and neutering is borderline animal abuse in a lot of cases.
20:26 <@sasquatc4> i agree
20:26 <+coil> so it's okay to beat the shit out of them?
20:26 <@sasquatc4> well the dog they wouldnt do it cause they kept thinking for some reason they were gonna breed him, when all of us knew they never were gonna do that
20:27 <@dasunt> You know the type -- the people whose scrawny, worm & flea infested cat is always preggers.
20:27 <@dasunt> <_<
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20:27 <+coil> they all have claws
20:27 <+coil> which is fucking annoying
20:27 <+coil> i think ima sell them all to a chienese restruant
20:27 <@sasquatc4> yea, that was the other thing, the chick refused to get her cat declawed, or even put the caps on the claws, even when she already owned the caps
20:28 <+coil> chinese
20:28 <+coil> you?get like $25 for each cat :P
20:28 <@sasquatc4> needless to say that cat got pushed out of a window many times
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20:28 <+coil> devemo, lrn2stayonirc
20:28 <@sdodson> birth is the plague of the poor
20:29 <@dasunt> caps?
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20:29 <@dasunt> I just clip my cats claws.
20:29 <+coil> hi dc0de
20:29 <+coil> goto sleep
20:29 <+coil> cut them all off
20:29 <@dasunt> It isn't that hard, assuming you start it when you are young and you are consistant about doing it.
20:29 <+coil> like cut off their heads
20:29 <@sasquatc4> yea, apparently you can put caps on the claws or somethin
20:30 <@dasunt> dc0de: We've decided -- we're going to sell coil to a Chinese restraunt.
20:30 <+coil> nooo
20:30 <@dasunt> Or pay them to take him away.
20:31 <+coil> can i gas them?
20:31 <@sdodson> cause i'm a high planes drifter
20:31 <@sdodson> guess that's plains
20:33 <@dasunt> high planes drifter:  digital bedoin.
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21:04 < freakn> I wanna burn something
21:05 <@dasunt> Try coil.
21:06 < freakn> hey coli, come here
21:10 <@dc0de> evenin all.
21:23 <@Mirage> just finished watching the end of Canonball Run II.. I forgot about most of the stars that were in that.  Jackie Chan is one I definitely didn't remember,
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21:31 <@Shadow_Phone> dc0de: ping
21:32 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, nm
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21:36 <@dasunt> OMG, I think I pissed someone off by mentioning that IT jobs at about $10-12/hr are basically trained chimp jobs.
21:36 <@dasunt> <_<
21:39 <@ShadowHntr> lol
21:39 <@ShadowHntr> i think i have a chance at this job at davita
21:39 <@ShadowHntr> right after i went out with ladymerlin for lunch
21:40 <@ShadowHntr> the interviewer called her to ask about my salary requirements
21:40 <@ladymerlin> :)
21:41 <@ShadowHntr> ladymerlin: many thanks for the heads up on that job
21:41 <@ShadowHntr> :D
21:41 <@ladymerlin> no problem man
21:42 <@ShadowHntr> brb
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21:46 < freakn> anyone know a good, cheap, easy way to ethernet connect a low end microchip microcontroller?
21:46 <@dasunt> Shadow_Phone: You understand, right?
21:46 <@dasunt> No offense, I've had those jobs.
21:46 <@dasunt> The ones where I looked at what I was doing and the only reason I wasn't scripting it was because I needed the money and needed to have something to do.  :p
21:55 <@wizardPC> anybody got a fluid head video tripod they can lend?
22:02 <@ware> werd
22:03 <@dasunt> wizardPC: Mine is a monopod, and only women can make fluids come from the head.
22:04 <@SkyDog_> Evening all.
22:05 < freakn> hey yo
22:06 <@SkyDog_> Yo.
22:06 < freakn> you doing anything at Phreaknic?
22:08 <@SkyDog_> Um, I am vice president of the group. I am doing a little bit.
22:08 <@ware> reulatin
22:08 <@ware> regulatin' too
22:08 <@SkyDog_> I am organizing the g33k shoot, and running the wifirace.
22:08 <@SkyDog_> www.g33kshoot.com and www.wifirace.com
22:08 <@Corydon76-dig> As treasurer, I'm organizing the gay orgy
22:08 <@SkyDog_> Not regulating this year
22:09 < freakn> ah, I did not know that.  Haven't really taken a good look, probably not going to be able to make it this year.  Doubt anyone would notice anyway.
22:09 <@SkyDog_> NOT helping with the gay orgy either.
22:09 < freakn> ohh, gay orgy
22:09  * Corydon76-dig invites freakn
22:09 <@SkyDog_> WHy aren't you gonna make it?
22:09 <@Corydon76-dig> freakn: if you need a place to stay...
22:09 < freakn> conflicts with a college football game, and my roommate is also heading to a family function and he would be who I drive up with
22:10 <@sdodson> those liquid filled tripod things are leet
22:10 < freakn> the guy who one "greatest hack ever" at Summercon is my roommates brother, and that dude is headed off to do some mission work or something in bumble Africa
22:11 < freakn> rotary club stuff
22:11 <@sdodson> Is rotary sort of like a circle jerk?
22:11 < freakn> Skydog: those guns are shinny
22:12 <@SkyDog_> And Bush's girlfriend says the P22 makes cute little holes...
22:12 < freakn> Cory:  doubt I will be there, but if I come I will keep it in mind.
22:12 <@sdodson> i need a faster computer, google docs makes my mp3s stutter :(
22:13 < freakn> Sdodson: I dunno, never been.  I think I might be more of a "Elephant Walk" freemason type.  Didn't someone say last year they were gonna do a freemasson talk this year or something?
22:16 <@dc0de> SkyDog_: ping
22:16 <@SkyDog_> I said something 4 minutes ago...
22:16 <@SkyDog_> it's not like I haven't been around... :)
22:17 <@dc0de> sorry, I was lurqing
22:17 <@SkyDog_> Ah. what cha need?
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22:31 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: *ping*
22:32  * dasunt pirates music according to Sony tonight.
22:32 <@SkyDog_> Yes? Hold one moment for skydog...
22:32 <@ShadowHntr> dasunt: oh rly? ;)
22:32 <@ShadowHntr> got a cease and desist?
22:33 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: Yes?
22:33 <@dasunt> No:  http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/03/1221213
22:33 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: just seeing what's up
22:33 <@dasunt> I R using grip to make mp3s for my car audio system.
22:33 <@SkyDog_> ah/
22:33 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh
22:33 <@dc0de> dasunt: I'm fucked then....
22:34 <@sdodson> car audio system sounds like an Apple way of saying a fucking phone with a data plan
22:34 <@sdodson> just like "Personal Internet Device"
22:34 <@sdodson> i sux at analogies
22:34 <@sdodson> i think you guys understand it though
22:35 <@dasunt> sdodson: No, it isn't a phone.  It is an $80 Walmart car CD/SD player with $20/each speakers!
22:35 <@dc0de> or like saying Intrauterine device
22:35 <@sdodson> Nevermind.
22:35 <@dasunt> Admittedly, since I'm in an Escort, $20 speakers are probably overkill for the amount of roadnoise.
22:35 <@dc0de> dasunt: heh
22:36 <@ShadowHntr> lol
22:36 <@dasunt> Actually, the cheap 'Roadwarrior' speakers aren't too bad.
22:36 <@dasunt> I had to go with slightly more expensive speakers for the front, and the quality on those is utter shit.
22:37 <@dasunt> (The car is old -- all of the cones in the speakers were torn, which was the only reason I replaced them)
22:40 <@sdodson> I'm not a trendy asshole.
22:41 <@dc0de> nite all.
22:41 <@dasunt> I'm the anti-trend.  i think.
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23:21 <@dasunt> This isn't a bad new South Park episode.
23:22 <@sdodson> I don't watch south park but i think it's about the only thing left worth watching on comedy central.
23:23 <@dasunt> About it.
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23:25 <@Corydon76-dig> You're forgetting Daily Show
23:25 <@Corydon76-dig> In fact, Daily Show is far better than South Park
23:25 <@dasunt> Oh, Colbert Report.
23:25 <@dasunt> The bestest.
23:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, I appreciate Colbert, as well.  Not as good as Daily Show, but still worth a good bit
23:26 <@Stefanie_TN> I think Colbert is funnier.
23:27 <@dasunt> Colbert has better material to parody.
23:27 <@Stefanie_TN> I just like his delivery.
23:28 <@ShadowHntr> ladymerlin: just sent a volunteer form your way
23:28 <@ShadowHntr> sup corydon
23:28 <@ShadowHntr> how's vcch
23:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Dunno, I'm only there once a week
23:28 <@Stefanie_TN> Volunteer form! Yay!
23:28 <@ShadowHntr> will you or howard be setting up for pn0x0b?
23:28 <@dasunt> "Oh God, it's Chris Hanson!"
23:28 <@ShadowHntr> Stefanie_TN = volunteer coordinator?
23:28 <@Stefanie_TN> Yes, I'm not LadyM, though.
23:29 <@ShadowHntr> too many stephanies
23:29 <@ShadowHntr> lol
23:29 <@ShadowHntr> that's cool
23:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Howard will be there, but I don't think he'll be setting up
23:29 <@Stefanie_TN> Not enough volunteers.
23:29 <@ShadowHntr> *shrug*
23:29 <@ShadowHntr> Stefanie_TN: i worked registration last year and wouldn't mind doing it again.
23:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Stefanie_TN: how many are we short?
23:29 <@Stefanie_TN> If anyone else wants to volunteer, now's the time. http://nlug.org/pn11.php
23:30 <@Stefanie_TN> ShadowHntr - cool. :)
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23:30 -!- Corydon76-dig changed the topic of #se2600 to: http://www.g33kshoot.com |  Hurry up and pre-register for PhreakNIC, be0tches!  | The hotel has less than 30 rooms left for that weekend, so make your reservations today! | Volunteer, be0tches!  http://nlug.org/pn11.php
23:31 <@Stefanie_TN> I took care of all family business tonight, so everyone who volunteered through today should've received AT LEAST one email from me.
23:31 <@Stefanie_TN> Carydon: we have 30 for Hospitality & Registration. I copied you an an email earlier.
23:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, how many more do we need?
23:33 <@Stefanie_TN> Ah, just this minute I received ShadowHntr's form. A confirmation is on the way. :)
23:33 <@ShadowHntr> Stefanie_TN: many thanks
23:33 <@ShadowHntr> Stefanie_TN: btw i am over 21 if there's any red tape re: that.
23:34 <@Corydon76-dig> ShadowHntr: that's not a concern, I don't think
23:34  * dasunt inserts his stock rant about forums with women on them.
23:34 <@Stefanie_TN> As long as you're over 18, we're cool.
23:34 <@ShadowHntr> k wasn't sure
23:34 <@sdodson> i'm looking forward to PN
23:34  * Stefanie_TN is safely over 18.
23:34 <@dasunt> ShadowHntr: AVOID THE BOY BUTTER!
23:34 <@sdodson> I need a break
23:34 <@ShadowHntr> LOL
23:35 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: He's lived with 2 gay roommates
23:35 <@sdodson> it doesnt taste like butter does it?
23:35 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: dunno, never tried tasting it
23:35 <@ShadowHntr> Corydon76-dig: they were able to restrain themselves - don't know about you... ;)
23:35 <@sdodson> i don't imagine gay dudes find butter to be arousing
23:36 <@dasunt> ShadowHntr: You dn't have to worry about how well he can restrain himself.  You have to worry how well he can restrain you.  :p
23:36 <@ShadowHntr> LOL
23:36 <@ShadowHntr> i have medication for that ;)
23:36 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: lack of it drying out is the main attraction
23:36 <@ShadowHntr> i have Thorazine ! :*)
23:36 <@dasunt> ShadowHntr: Quick tip:  Don't believe him when he asks you to model how well the pink furry handcuffs look on you and a nearby pipe.
23:36 <@Stefanie_TN> Shadow - you should have my standard confirmation message in your in-box.
23:36 <@dasunt> IT IS A TRAP!
23:37 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: are you actually going to come to PN?
23:37 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: I dunno.
23:37 <@ShadowHntr> Corydon76-dig: who's in charge of the geocaching activities this year?
23:37 <@ShadowHntr> Stefanie_TN: danke
23:37 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Money is a little tight.
23:37 <@dasunt> It is still uncertain.
23:37 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: like I said, you can stay in my room
23:37 <@dasunt> Also, I'm a little more uncomfortable staying outside the legal jurisdiction of the state of TN.
23:38 <@dasunt> I don't know of any reason why I shouldn't, but I still don't trust the ex...
23:38 <@sdodson> i thought shadow404 took his ball and went home?
23:38  * dasunt snickers.
23:38 <@dasunt> That would be funny though, if the first arrest at PN was totally unrelated to hacking.  :p
23:38 <@sdodson> it'd be the second i believe
23:39 <@Stefanie_TN> More than one Stefanie, more than one Alex. Geez...
23:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Stefanie_TN: I think you have an extra 'w' in brimstone's email address
23:39 <@Stefanie_TN> Oh?
23:39 <@Stefanie_TN> I'll check...
23:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Stefanie_TN: yeah, his domain spells something
23:39 <@ShadowHntr> Stefanie_TN: is my nick any better to help you differentiate between the two?
23:39 <@dasunt> sdodson: Wait?  Who got arrested before?
23:40 <@sdodson> was murdoc pn or interzone?
23:40 <@Stefanie_TN> Shadow - yep, that's fine.
23:40 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: why would you get arrested?
23:40 <@ShadowHntr> anyone in HSV this week?
23:40 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: I can't think of a reason why I would be arrested.
23:40 <@dasunt> I'm probably just being paranoid.
23:40 <@dasunt> _probably_
23:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Stefanie_TN: Tim is 21
23:41 <@dasunt> OTOH, my ex hasn't done any crazy shit in a few months, which is a little disturbing...
23:44 <@ShadowHntr> damn fucking compaq proliant
23:45 <@ShadowHntr> won't recognize a PERC in it
23:45 <@ShadowHntr> older one has a funky bios too
23:45 <@ShadowHntr> :P
23:46 <@Stefanie_TN> Corydon - I had brimstone's correct on my return email, but I did have an extra w in the spreadsheet. Good catch!
23:48 <@Corydon76-dig> So we probably need another 20 people, optimally?
23:48 <@brimstone> >_>
23:48 <@ShadowHntr> Stefanie_TN: got some questions in pm plz
23:49 <@sdodson> a/s/l can be asked in public!
23:49 <@Stefanie_TN> Sorry... was multitaksing.
23:49 <@ShadowHntr> 's alright
23:49 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: ask I-MOD if he wants a tshirt in exchange for volunteering...
23:49 <@brimstone> is he signed up to volunteer now?
23:50 <@Corydon76-dig> He is not
23:50 < eryc> he prefers used condoms to tshirts
23:50 <@brimstone> i'll pester him tomorrow then
23:50 < eryc> just saying
23:50 <@brimstone> he's sleeping now i think
23:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
23:50  * brimstone is still in the new building :(
23:51 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: damn, working a bit late
23:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Still working on routing?
23:51 <@Stefanie_TN> Brimstone, you did receive my email back on September 7 after you signed up, right?
23:52 <@brimstone> sept 7? let me look
23:53 <@dasunt> 5x as many black men are in college as in prison.
23:53  * dasunt expects the "common wisdom" quote to continue.
23:53 <@brimstone> Stefanie_TN, i only have the "thanks for prereg" email on sept 7
23:54 <@Stefanie_TN> Perfect, Brimstone. Thanks.
23:54 <@brimstone> hokey
23:55 <@dasunt> I guess porn isn't healthy:  http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_276092218.html
23:55 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: btw, don't know if it's been fixed already, but I noticed earlier that the route to carolina through the VPN wasn't getting routed correctly
23:56 <@brimstone> send in a ticket and we'll check it
23:56 <@Corydon76-dig> As soon as I deleted the route, I could get to carolina just fine
23:57 <@Stefanie_TN> Corydon - As for the number of volunteers, I was hoping for about 10-15 more at this point.
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