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00:08 <@Psyiode> Corydon76-dig: yeah ill be there
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00:23 <@someninjamaster> im fucking tired and i have to get up in another 2 hours
00:24 <@juice> bummer
00:25 <@someninjamaster> indeed
00:25 <@someninjamaster> then 2 hours after that
00:25 <@someninjamaster> then 2 hours after that
00:25 <@someninjamaster> and so on and so on untill tommrow morning
00:25 <@someninjamaster> at which point i go to work for 9 hours
00:39 <@ware> lol
00:39 <@ware> so im not the drunk one for once and its kinda nice
00:39 <@ware> but its really fucking annoying that she wont stfu about 'jay jay jay im drunk and puking come help me'
00:42 <@Dagmar> Oh FFS
00:42 <@Dagmar> Another program that decides to force-install DirectX 9.0c
00:43 <@Dagmar> WHy the fuck do people make us download this same shit over and over
00:44 <@someninjamaster> ffs?
00:44 <@Dagmar> for fuck's sake
00:44 <@someninjamaster> oh
00:45 <@ware> jesus
00:45 <@ware> and wtf is up with the drunk talking in 3rd person
00:46 <@Dagmar> Hint from reality to moron-boy: Go help the vomiting girl
00:47 <@ware> hahaha
00:47 <@ware> 'mary mary doesnt know where her toes are'
00:47 <@ware> ive been tending to the cattle for the past hour
00:47 <@ware> its time for her to pass out
01:01 <@timoguin> haha
01:03 <@Psyiode> i should reserve a room already
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--- Log opened Tue Oct 02 05:08:19 2007
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07:05 <@Shadow_Phone> meow
07:05 <@Shadow_Phone> mawning
07:40 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches!
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08:03 <@NotLarry> Guess it is time to put a ups on this server
08:28 <@ladymerlin> whee
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08:43 <@ShadowHntr> morning
08:51 <@ShadowHntr> *ping*
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09:01 < Evilpig_> secretary soooooo dumb
09:01 < Evilpig_> she was making a spreadsheet for some type of monthly report.
09:01 <@rattle> Good morning..
09:01 < Evilpig_> she was typing 1-oct, 2-oct, 3-oct  on consequtives lines all the way down to 30
09:02 < Evilpig_> I jumped in there and deleted the whole column, she called me an ass and told me how long that took.  then I remade it using the dot and dragging down in 1 sec. 
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09:05 <@ladymerlin> lol
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09:21 <@NotLarry> ok, damn it, how so I, as root, run a prog as another user in linux?
09:22 <@NotLarry> I just learned this last month and now I can't remember.
09:22 <@Dolemite> su - username -c command
09:23 <@NotLarry> sorry, didn't ask the right question, want to start a program and attach it to the local x session
09:23 <@Dolemite> xhosts +localhost
09:24 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
09:24  * NotLarry scribbles that down on the desktop
09:24 <@Evilpig> stop writing on the desks
09:25 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: Where are we eating?  I'm bringing our girlfriend
09:25 <@NotLarry> Im only at the frap house, no one here will have a clue what the shit written on the desk means
09:26 <@Evilpig> I don't know.  I'm having a dizzy morning I am barely upright as is
09:26 <@NotLarry> should lay off the meth
09:26 <@NotLarry> but that's not the first time you have heard that is it
09:26 <@Evilpig> I could use some meth
09:26 <@Evilpig> you need a ups on your server
09:26 <@Evilpig> I went to check it and it's like not there
09:26 <@NotLarry> yeah, I've heard that
09:27 <@NotLarry> not sure what is not running.  ugh seems to be gone from the web side but the root website exists
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09:30 <@NotLarry> guess I will go do some housecleaning
09:30 <@NotLarry> ooo, there I am, I got connected, thanks dol
09:30 <@Evilpig> well it doesnt ping that's all I know
09:30 <@NotLarry> I'm in it here
09:31 <@NotLarry> let me look around
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09:34 <@NotLarry> fucking named not starting up on boot:(
09:35 <@NotLarry> got two more emails yesterday from my craigs list response:)
09:35 <@ShadowHntr> just got a call for a job interview in brentwood
09:35 <@ShadowHntr> w00t
09:36 <@NotLarry> I got 3 places to stay in ATL
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09:36 <@NotLarry> pig try it now
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09:37 <@NotLarry> yeah, they are starting to look at me funny, guess it is time to leave this coffee house.
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09:40 <@Dolemite> NotLarry : Let us know where you've posted these extra emails
09:41 <@Evilpig> don't listen to Dolemite.  fix apache first
09:48 <@rattle> Blackwater hearing..  Prince is in front of a Senate committee.  This should be fun.
09:49 <@ShadowHntr> wtf
09:50 <@Evilpig> I don't; know what I was thinking at times.  I just found this in one of my code scrape directories
09:51 <@Evilpig> <?php phpinfo();
09:51 <@Evilpig> if (extension_loaded('gd')){ print "yup it's there";
09:51 <@Evilpig> }else{ print "popcorn cleatus";
09:51 <@Evilpig> }
09:51 <@Evilpig> ?>
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10:02 <@Shadow_Phone> omg omg omg, less than 7 days left to orange box
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10:05 <@Dolemite> popcorn cleatus!@$!@?
10:06 <@nachoguy> popcorn cleatus?
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10:09 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
10:09 <@nachoguy> Dole, did I read that correctly, no pn swag at the door?
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10:10 <@Dolemite> you did not read correctly
10:10 <@Dolemite> what did you read?
10:13 <@nachoguy> oh, I did misread
10:13 <@nachoguy> there will be schwag, but not swag
10:13  * Dolemite beats nachoguy over the head for not understanding the point of the blog entry
10:14  * Dolemite never gives out swag
10:14 <@nachoguy> yeah, I was interrupted 4 times while trying to read the 3 paragraphs there
10:14 <@Corydon76-dig> There will be a made-up word at the door, but no real words
10:14 <@nachoguy> I kind of had a disconnect
10:14 <@nachoguy> my bad home-skillet
10:14 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : That's how new words become part of our vocabulary.  We make them up.
10:14 <@nachoguy> as they say in your native language
10:15 <@Dolemite> Otherwise Webster's dictionary would still be just a couple hundred pages thick
10:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: call the OED
10:15 <@Dolemite> Why?  There's no point to this other than you being an ass about it.
10:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Snargle bargle pashay
10:16 <@Dolemite> you got that right
10:17 <@nachoguy> Corydon, I couldn't agree more, ware does want you to violate him with a ceiling fan
10:18 <@Dolemite> I'm pretty sure he blogged that earlier today
10:23 <@someninjamaster> all that work last night for nothing
10:23 <@Dolemite> what work?  what nothing?
10:23 <@someninjamaster> one of my jennys had a foal yesterday afternoon
10:24 <@someninjamaster> and she wouldnt let it nurse
10:24 <@Dolemite> jenny?  What kind of horse is that?
10:24 <@someninjamaster> so we had to force her to nurse it every 2 hours since yesterday afternoon
10:24 <@someninjamaster> donkey
10:24 <@Dolemite> ah
10:24 <@someninjamaster> we just had to put it down
10:24 <@Dolemite> I didn't know you were an ass man
10:24 <@Dolemite> that sucks :(
10:24 <@someninjamaster> yeah
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10:49 <@Evilpig> I need to find better things to do with my time when I get bored. http://se2600.org/ircstats/pics/
10:51 <@brimstone> Evilpig, you've been talking with Corydon76-dig haven't you?
10:51 <@Evilpig> umm don't think so.  why?
10:51 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: You there?
10:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes
10:51 <@brimstone> curious how you got that employee only image of me and I-MOD
10:52 <@Evilpig> I dunno what you're talking about.  I found it in ummm google
10:52 <@brimstone> google isn't allowed in that network...
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10:56 <@ware> werd
10:56 <@nachoguy> nice, in the stats, my nick is natjocheez for somereason
10:56 <@ware> Evilpig: why am i at the top
10:57 <@Evilpig> it's random
10:57 <@Evilpig> I'm about to put in a sort
10:57 <@Evilpig> right now itis just reading in the directory and outputting.  no real rhyme or reason to it
10:57 <@ware> lol@devemo
10:58 <@Evilpig> devemo is the only person that has a large image everyone else has just a thumbnail
10:58 <@Shadow_Phone> why?
10:59 <@Evilpig> cause it amused me.
10:59 <@Evilpig> round(((filesize($file))/1024),4);
10:59 <@Evilpig> oops.
11:19 <@Shadow_Phone> .
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11:20 <@Shadow_Phone> Evilpig: why does Devemo have the only large image?
11:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Because he's the cutest?
11:20 <@Shadow_Phone> pedophile!
11:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, sure, I can't call him cute
11:21 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm not going to touch him
11:28 <@Corydon76-dig> You, on the other hand...
11:32 <@Shadow_Phone> yipe
11:38 <@Evilpig> because I thought the little image didn't work quite right.  so I made it where you can click his and it pops up a larger one cause nobody wants to believe he is actually 12
11:39 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: you paying attn?
11:39 <@Evilpig> preg_match('/\(thumb).(jpg|gif|png
11:39 <@Evilpig> would that get any image file that has thumb in the name?
11:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow_Phone: I'm working on edumacating him
11:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Before too long, he'll be able to code circles around you
11:47 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, probably already does, since i hate coding with a passion
11:50 <@Shadow_Phone> gah, leave it to a women to quote the exact time and day you said somehting just so they can contradict what you say
11:52 <@Evilpig> /\.(jpg|gif|png)$/i    Okay corydon, this is my current regex.  how do I modify that to have it only show things that have thumb before the .
11:52 <@brimstone> /thumb\.(jpg|gif|png)$/i ?
11:54 <@Evilpig> correct. thx
11:57  * Corydon76-dig takes out his camera and produces new pics of brimstone and I-MOD...
11:58 <@Corydon76-dig> It's amazing what you can see through the window of brimstone's apt...
11:58 <@brimstone> interesting cuz i keep the blinds closed...
11:59 <@Dolemite> schwag proof has been approved.  w00t.
12:02 <@Evilpig> okay ware is no longer on top
12:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Good, we all knew he was a bottom
12:02 <@Evilpig> that would have been really funny had he been on the end of hte list
12:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, the cordless DECT SIP phones I've hacked are on clearance at staples
12:09 <@nachoguy> Corydon, which ones are those?
12:09 <@nachoguy> I saw a neat snom one at astricon
12:09 <@Corydon76-dig> ATS X10001P
12:10 <@Corydon76-dig> http://google.com/products?q=x10001p
12:11 <@nachoguy> http://www.snom.com/en/snom_m3.html
12:12 <@nachoguy> that's the one I was talking to an engineer about
12:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Sweet
12:12 <@Corydon76-dig> You were at Astricon?
12:12 <@nachoguy> yeah
12:13 <@nachoguy> I asked you if you were going, you said you don't like to travel
12:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah, yep
12:13 <@nachoguy> I got to see mark drive a security golf cart around
12:13 <@Evilpig> guess I should go get some lunch.  was supposed to meet notlarry but seems he went to sleep
12:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
12:13 <@Corydon76-dig> You spend time in the Code Zone?
12:13 <@nachoguy> nope
12:14 <@critch> nachoguy: did he drive it like he does his VW?
12:14 <@nachoguy> critch, recklessly?
12:14 <@nachoguy> yes
12:14 <@nachoguy> it was how he made his entrance for his key note
12:14 <@Corydon76-dig> You should see him in his roadster
12:14 <@nachoguy> roadster?
12:14 <@critch> he has a roadster now?
12:14 <@Corydon76-dig> ca. 1930 championship roadster
12:15 <@Corydon76-dig> 0-60 in oh-my-god-why-doesn't-this-thing-have-seatbelts?
12:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Seems nobody has the snom m3 yet
12:18 <@nachoguy> yeah, it's new, but they did say it was released
12:18 <@nachoguy> I need to drop an engineer an email about base station roaming
12:19 <@nachoguy> we've got a lot of ground to cover, so if we get a wireless sip phone (which would be real handy for our helpdesk guys), it's got to be able to roam
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12:26 <@nachoguy> so, do you guys have any opinions on adhearsion?
12:26  * brimstone has a negative opinion on adhearsion
12:27 <@brimstone> and that's all you want to hear out of me
12:27 <@nachoguy> no, seriously, I'd like any info you have
12:27 <@nachoguy> one of our developers saw it and thought it was great.
12:28 <@brimstone> i think it's a rediculously heavy application for what little it does
12:28 <@nachoguy> In concept, it seems like you might be able to get some more functionality out of it, but I'm not sure at what resource cost
12:28 <@brimstone> *last i looked at it
12:29 <@critch> so what does it get you that you can't really get with ragi?
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12:31 <@brimstone> my opinion is that ruby doesn't belong on my webservers, so why is it on my phone system?
12:31 <@nachoguy> I don't have enough information to give you guys limits or things like that.  It just seems like it might make doing tedious tasks in the dialplan easier
12:31 <@critch> ruby is great for webservers
12:32 <@brimstone> nachoguy, i'm not a fan of ruby either, the only thing it seems to "bring to the table" is convention
12:32 <@nachoguy> so brimstone, if this was done just as perl running as a daemon on the pbx machine and all calls were sent to it using agi, that would be better?  Becasue it's Perl?
12:32 <@brimstone> and that's all in the rails framework, not ruby
12:32 <@nachoguy> and I'm not knocking that, I like perl
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12:32 <@brimstone> nachoguy, why do you need agi in your dialplan anyway?
12:32 < cinotac> w00t
12:33 <@brimstone> sure, for some really advanced stuff, but otherwise, stick to dialplan logic
12:33 < cinotac> anyone got a phone with windows mobile on it?
12:33 <@Corydon76-dig> The big problem I saw in the demonstration of Adhearsion was the relatively high cost of changing code on a running system
12:33 < cinotac> i found a bug in solitare
12:34 <@brimstone> if you really want to "program the dialplan" use ael
12:34 <@nachoguy> what is ael>?
12:34 <@nachoguy> I've seem the acronym floating around
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12:34 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm working with murf on AEL a bit, and I still don't think AEL is where it needs to be, yet
12:34 <@Corydon76-dig> although it shows a lot of promise
12:34 <@brimstone> asterisk extension language
12:34 <@brimstone> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+AEL
12:35 <@Corydon76-dig> It's an additional layer above extensions.conf, that lets you program more naturally
12:35 < cinotac> asterisk is the borg
12:35 < cinotac> digium will eat itself
12:35 <@nachoguy> actually ael looks kind of interesting
12:35 < cinotac> sup nacho?
12:36 <@nachoguy> Catonic, not much
12:36 < cinotac> cool
12:36 < cinotac> ive been up to my ass in badgers
12:37 < cinotac> coworker left, we've been rebuilding the backup system every day since then...
12:37 < cinotac> brilliant idea...
12:37 <@nachoguy> some of the stuff that Leif Madsen was doing with DUNDi looked pretty bad ass, but it sounded a bit convoluted (with lots of back ports from 1.6), and the dev that went to the adhearsion talk said he thought a lot of what DUNDi was being used for could be covered with ruby
12:37 < cinotac> 'before you quit, upgrade $software....'
12:37 <@brimstone> nachoguy, was that Jay?
12:37 <@nachoguy> catonic, it means you get to come back at _consulting rates_
12:38 < cinotac> oh hell no
12:38 <@nachoguy> brimstone, the adhearsion guy was jay something (I didn't get to see that talk)
12:38 <@brimstone> yeah, ok
12:38 <@nachoguy> but the nifty dundi clustering shit was Leif Madsen
12:38 <@brimstone> yeah, Leif's cool
12:38 <@nachoguy> I was damn impressed
12:38 < cinotac> for what we pay in support, we'll keep em on the phone for 16 hrs a day
12:38 <@brimstone> Leif helped with The Book
12:39 <@nachoguy> what opinion do you guys have of Matt Florell?
12:39 <@Corydon76-dig> one of the primary authors, in fact
12:39 <@brimstone> nachoguy, i dunno him
12:39 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: I'd say I helped with the book
12:39 <@nachoguy> yeah, I'm going to pick up ver 2, as it's supposed to have lots of neat usefull stuff in it
12:39 <@Corydon76-dig> though my help didn't rise to the level of authorship
12:40 <@nachoguy> corydon, he's the vicidial guy
12:40 <@Corydon76-dig> nachoguy: never messed with that
12:40 <@brimstone> vicidial's the demon dialier right?
12:40 <@nachoguy> corydon, if you like your sanity, never do
12:41 <@nachoguy> brimstone, if by demon, you mean it's broken and was written by a 12 year old with ADD, yes
12:41 <@nachoguy> We tried to run it for a short while here, it didn't work right.
12:41 <@Corydon76-dig> nachoguy: While I don't have a need for people to like me, I do have a need for people not to hate me.  Hence, no vicidial
12:41 <@nachoguy> we put one of our developers on it, it still wasn't good
12:42 <@nachoguy> we grabbed a diff dev and had him write it from scratch, it's cruising pretty good
12:43 <@nachoguy> well, we basically use the dialer to call our customers, we just use it so that our reps don't typo phone numbers, it just loads up account info, and dial for them
12:44 <@nachoguy> anyway, I saw the guy talk at astricon
12:44 <@nachoguy> 80% of his talk was hyping his product, but everyonce in a while he'd toss out little bits of really good info
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12:48 <@nachoguy> it's lunch time
12:48 <@nachoguy> later guys
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14:55 <@critch> So where is the entertainement, all the quits an joins are boring.
14:56  * rhia strings ware up and rents out the cattle prod 
14:56 <@rhia> entertainment enough?
14:56 <@critch> a little, sounds like it could get messy though.
14:57 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, we all know ware enjoys the cattle prod
14:57 <@Shadow404> lawl
14:57 <@Shadow_Phone> shut up you
14:57 <@Shadow404> :(
14:57  * Shadow404 goes back to corner
14:58 <@Shadow_Phone> sorry about that, doing some remote updating of drivers while at work and shadow404 got all excited there
14:58 <@rhia> at least all your personalities communicate freely <g>
14:58 <@Shadow_Phone> aye
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15:05 <@polerin> nothing worse than your alternate personalities giving each other the cold shoulder
15:05 <@polerin> makes it really bad for the third personality
15:06 <@polerin> keeps having to pass messages back and forth.
15:06  * Corydon76-dig pokes polerin 
15:06 <@polerin> ack
15:07 <@rhia> polerin: shhh, i thought i'd asked you not to mention that <g>
15:07 <@Evilpig> polerin: you never answered my cable question
15:08 <@polerin> I never SAW your cable question
15:08 <@polerin> if you messged it to me prior to my reboot sorry :P
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15:24 <@someninjamaster> polerin do you have some cables we can use for the cameras at the con
15:25 <@polerin> define "cables"
15:25 <@polerin> what types do you need
15:26 <@someninjamaster> just coax
15:26 <@someninjamaster> that we can convert to bnc on one side and rca on the other
15:27 <@someninjamaster> one to go rca to rca
15:27 <@Shadow_Phone> what, were not doing hd recordings?
15:27 <@someninjamaster> and one to go coax to coax
15:27 <@Shadow_Phone> bleh, i want the talks in high definition
15:27 <@Dolemite> Then go get your own damn HD equipment and record them
15:27 <@polerin> trust me, decent lighting will do far more for the picture than a HD camera and recorder.
15:27 <@polerin> and yes, I can make coax to order.
15:27 <@someninjamaster> be appreciatave of the 14,000 doller camera we can use now
15:28 <@someninjamaster> a hd one would be over triple that
15:28 <@Shadow_Phone> shit, what wtf are you usig this year?
15:32 <@Dolemite> A camera he borrowed from a pr0n buddy of his
15:32 <@someninjamaster> wizardpcs buddy
15:32 <@Evilpig> "buddy"
15:32 <@Dolemite> pr0n buddy
15:33 <@Shadow_Phone> what kind of camera, model?
15:33 <@someninjamaster> some sony one
15:33 <@Dolemite> Sony Spoogecam
15:33 <@SkyDog_> Nice camera.
15:33 <@SkyDog_> you can't afford one.
15:33 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl
15:35 <@Dolemite> ok, I'm heading out of here
15:35 <@Dolemite> gotta go run more errant errands
15:37 <@ShadowHntr> i want either a Minolta Maxxum 5D or a dImage A2
15:37 <@ShadowHntr> but both run about 300 used
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15:54 <@Shadow_Phone> $300 used is cheap for a nice video camera
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16:18 <@rattle> Oh fucking balls..
16:18 <@rattle> They are making another Rambo movie.
16:18 <@rattle> Did we need another Rambo movie?
16:18 <@Shadow_Phone> no
16:18 <@rattle> What the hell do they have him doing now?  Fighting Al-Queda?
16:18 <@rattle> Wait..
16:18 <@rattle> That might be amusing.
16:18 <@rattle> Nevermind..  Carry on.
16:18 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, maybe we do need another rambo movie
16:18 <@Evilpig> Rambo vs Alhzheimers
16:19 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
16:19 < freakn> is it S Stalone again?  They might be making another rambo just because they are making another indiana jones
16:21 < freakn> "John Rambo" directed, writen,  produced, and staring Sylvester Stallone
16:21 < freakn> I guess when you are old, rich, and famous you can just go out and make a movie.  Mel Gibson still does it.
16:26 <@brimstone> "i put my pants on one leg at a time just like you guys, but then i go out and make gold records"
16:26 <@Evilpig> I just saw a sarah silverman quote there
16:27 <@Evilpig> "I put on my $500 jeans one leg at a time just like you, with the help of my assistant"
16:30 <@ShadowHntr> Shadow_Phone, was talking about digital SLRs
16:30 <@Shadow_Phone> ahh
16:31 <@Shadow_Phone> i got a project where i want a cheap camera i cann mount on the bottom portion of my bike wheile im riding so i can replay it later
16:31 <@Shadow_Phone> something cheap, so if it breaks its not a big loss
16:31 <@Mirage> rattle: the new rambo movie is old news
16:31 <@critch> Shadow_Phone: some guy is using a bullet cam connected to a OSD box remotely located for something similar
16:32 < freakn> shadow_phone, you can get disposable digital cameras from CVS.  It may be easy to modify those
16:32 <@critch> Find any video source and connect it to the OSD for digital solidstate recording
16:34 <@Shadow_Phone> gnna have to look into a few options before i get serious about it
16:37 <@critch> dude using the OSD is recording windsurfing. He made a waterproof container to hold the batteries and the OSD box.
16:37 <@Evilpig> ROFL http://sarahsilverman.comedycentral.com/index.jhtml?c=vc&videoId=102906
16:41 <@nachoguy> OSD?
16:42 <@critch> nueros
16:42 <@critch> http://www.wellingtondeals.com/pc-20811-6-8las4k389d.aspx
16:44 <@wizardPC> i dont know if you guys know this, but changing a blown out tire on i75 in Atlanta during rush hour sucks even worse when you can only use one hand
16:46 <@SkyDog_> Hell. Sounds like all kinds of fun.
16:46 <@Evilpig> don't run over nails and you won't have that problem
16:46 <@critch> what where you doing with that othr hand?
16:46 <@Evilpig> don't answer that
16:46 <@Evilpig> we all want to imagaine
16:46 <@Evilpig> imagine*
16:48 <@wizardPC> oh, and I forgot to add that I was in a suit
16:48 <@wizardPC> having just left an interview
16:48 <@critch> more interviews for what you did in Memphis, or different job?
16:49 <@Evilpig> hold on.  I am putting this picture together.   rush hour, changing a tire one handed while wearing a suit and making balloon animals in your other hand
16:49 <@wizardPC> different job
16:49 <@critch> Evilpig: ohh and have seen what he is driving now?
16:50 <@wizardPC> no, the other hand was wrapped in gauze from the injury last week
16:50 <@critch> what did you do to your hand?
16:51 <@wizardPC> sliced a finger open on a door frame
16:51 <@wizardPC> I got to go to the ER and everything!
16:52 <@critch> fun
16:52 <@critch> gotta head out and see if my new toy was delivered yet or not.
16:52 <@Evilpig> critch: i'm putting a large panel van in my "vision"
16:53 <@Evilpig> now that he ruined my balloon animals I have to go with buffalo bob from silence of the lambs.  arm in a sling with a large van asking for some poor girl to help him load a couch
16:55  * Dementia waves to wizardPC 
16:55 <@wizardPC> j0
16:55 <@polerin> hah
16:55 <@Dementia> howdy strangers
16:55 <@polerin> I just randomly helped an NLUG member
16:55 <@wizardPC> hey polerin, you still got them thar cables from last year?
16:56 <@polerin> wizardPC: if you are talking about the coax, no not really but I can readily make more.  You asked that previously and SNM asked earlier today :P
16:56  * Evilpig tosses a cup of water on Dementia and leaves for the store
16:56 <@wizardPC> oh, yeah.....
16:56 <@polerin> :D
16:57  * Dementia grumbles and pulls out her bacon knife
16:57 <@polerin> does Nlug have an irc channel here?
16:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Specifically, what gauge of cable, so I know what RCA ends to get?
16:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, #nlug
16:57 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
16:57 <@polerin> uh
16:58 <@Shadow_Phone> i know, i was bored
16:58 <@Corydon76-dig> RG6 ?
16:58 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: don't bother with the rca ends gauge wise
16:58 <@polerin> go to radio shack
16:58 <@polerin> get f to rca
16:58 <@polerin> that screw into normal coax fittings
16:58 <@polerin> much more secure, and you don't need a special tool other than the compression one I already have.
16:59 <@Corydon76-dig> I thought the compression tool you have worked fine for RCA ends
16:59 <@wizardPC> Corydon76-dig, we are going to need some RCA-F connectors (at least 3) and one BNC-F connector
16:59 <@polerin> no.
16:59 <@polerin> it does F connectors
16:59 <@polerin> and a specific type
16:59 <@polerin> which is fine
17:00 <@polerin> because the f-rca things are like 2 for a dollar
17:00 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardPC: do you need the Gaffer's tape earlier than the 18th?
17:00 <@wizardPC> no
17:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Are you planning on another dry run before the 18th?
17:01 <@polerin> ok
17:01 <@polerin> time to go home
17:01 <@polerin> and I've got some spare f->rca cables running around
17:01 <@someninjamaster> corydon i think we are going to try one sunday night
17:01 <@wizardPC> yes, on Sunday (last I heard, but there is a game this weekend so i dunno)
17:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay
17:02 <@Corydon76-dig> So we need the cable then, as well
17:02 <@wizardPC> yes
17:02 <@polerin> hmm.  well, I can do something early in the day, but I think I'm likely to have CAL practice that night
17:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Favorite Rat Shack location?
17:02 <@polerin> and I can show you how to do stuff with the video broadcast at the time too
17:03 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: don't bother.. except for a F-> BNC
17:03 <@polerin> I likely have more than enough F->RCA
17:03 <@wizardPC> we figured that stuff out last time
17:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, so female F to male RCA, correct?
17:04 <@Corydon76-dig> or rather, female F to male BNC, correct?
17:04 <@Corydon76-dig> or female BNC?
17:04 <@Corydon76-dig> or do I need to get both, because you don't know?
17:04 <@wizardPC> female BNC
17:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay
17:04 <@polerin> threads on the outside.  (female) for the F connector
17:05 <@polerin> unless you have something odd on your mind
17:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Right, the wire in the center is considered male
17:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Hole in the center is considered female
17:06  * polerin nods.
17:06 <@polerin> I make sure to specify when the equipment isn't in hand :P
17:06 <@Corydon76-dig> It's also fun going into a store and dropping the nontaxable form and watching new cashier's faces get that deer-in-the-headlights look
17:07 <@wizardPC> lolz
17:08 <@polerin> eh, I never did.  but I'm not normal
17:10 <@wizardPC> polerin, do you know about the camera I scored?
17:10 <@polerin> I heard about it don't know details
17:10 <@polerin> I'll talk in a few, heading home
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17:35 <@nachoguy> http://bash.org/?811243
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17:41 <@SkyDog_> Ok, someone ping google and tell me what your response times are...
17:41 <@Shadow_Phone> 3 and 2 ms
17:41 <@Corydon76-dig> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 22.253/24.424/31.415/3.518 ms
17:42 <@ladymerlin> 61ms
17:42 <@Shadow_Phone> damn, ladymerlin, dial-up?
17:42 <@SkyDog_> Hmm. So 500-900ms sounds a bit out of place, right?
17:42 <@Shadow_Phone> aye
17:42 <@Shadow_Phone> for any ping
17:42 <@ladymerlin> no
17:42 <@Corydon76-dig> 500ms sounds like you're going over a satellite
17:42 <@Shadow_Phone> unless your going overseas
17:42 <@SkyDog_> Waiting for the network analysis box to reboot, so that I can check out the traffic.
17:42 <@SkyDog_> that's going to google.
17:42 <@Shadow_Phone> i have a route to japan that is 243ms atm
17:43 <@SkyDog_> The firewall is pegged at the moment.
17:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Satellite is usually the only reason why ping times are that high
17:43 <@Shadow_Phone> what does traceroute say?
17:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Bare minimum, geosynch is 540ms
17:44 <@Corydon76-dig> (That's two round trips)
17:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Amusing is when you're watching somebody check his mail from across the room via satellite
17:50 <@SkyDog_> sigh.
17:50 <@SkyDog_> Gotta figure out what is up here.
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17:50 <@Shadow_Phone> where in traceroute does the lag showup?
17:51 <@SkyDog_> One guy was doing an apple update, but that can't kill it that bad.
17:51 <@SkyDog_> just outside of the firewall.
17:51 <@Shadow_Phone> border router?
17:51 <@SkyDog_> 14ms to get to the firewall outside interface.
17:51 <@SkyDog_> Past that, it sucks ass.
17:52 <@Shadow_Phone> is the next hop past the firewall the isp?
17:52 <@Shadow_Phone> or is there somehting in between?
17:52 <@SkyDog_> The next hop is the ISP.
17:53 <@Shadow_Phone> you know what that means, call up the isp and escalate the issue to them
17:54 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, when i do that, i always ask for a tier 2 when i call in to get passed the, "have you checked to make sure you dont have spyware bs" from tier 1
17:54 <@SkyDog_> Um, yeah. I have called tech support before. I did it long before you did.
17:54 <@Shadow_Phone> dont doubt that dog
17:57 <@Shadow_Phone> got an ip i could see the lag inbound to you?
17:58 <@Shadow_Phone> nm, cust otp atm
17:59 <@Shadow_Phone> speaking of ISP, its speakeasy
18:08 <@sdodson> hi how are you?
18:09 <@sdodson> speaksleezy!
18:09 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl
18:11 <@Shadow_Phone> pulling my hair out right now, talking to one of the slowest techs ever (not speakeasy)
18:12 <@ware> hhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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18:15 <@Shadow_Phone> omg, its taking him 2 minutes to pull up one damn reboot ticket i opened today, finally gave up, dialed up, got someone diffrent, got my issue handled and dealt with within 40 seconds, hah
18:18 <@sdodson> WOW!
18:19 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, thanks for the exaggeration
18:19 <@Shadow_Phone> but yeah, just needed to vent
18:19 <@sdodson> good thing you're venting orally
18:20 <@Shadow_Phone> ???
18:20 <@Shadow_Phone> as opposed too?
18:21 <@sdodson> farting lawlzzzzzllllll
18:21 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, that was so not lawl worthy
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18:21 <@Shadow_Phone> see, i know how to code Corydon76-dig
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18:22 <@sdodson> stop!
18:22 <@Shadow_Phone> hey, then "stop!" using lawl for something unworthy of such a great word
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18:25 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, so hmm, does that once a night
18:48 <@sdodson> 7 CVEs fixed by the latest vmware workstation update? They must have been sitting on a lot of crap
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20:02 <@Mirage> haha... http://www.flickr.com/photos/carbonnyc/127869116/in/pool-badsignage/
20:02 <@Mirage> ~minilink
20:02 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/flickr.com/NgqXJ
20:03 <@sdodson> "Reading reports about hacker cons, you would think that they consist of a few boring speeches followed by an alcohol binge lasting until early morning. Am I the only one noticing “hacker” becoming synonymous with alcoholic? Does the modern hacker require an exhibition of impairment to justify his or her actions? There’s no doubt that hacking and illicit drugs are inexorably linked, but are deadbeat/abuser becoming apart of the h
20:05 <@sasquatc4> that seems like a fairly dumb synopsis, i would treat it just like any other gathering of people with like interests, and generally at those gatherings people tend to get fucked up together since they feel much more comfortable around them than compared to other situations
20:05 <@sasquatc4> much like concerts where everyone enjoys the same music
20:06 <@sdodson> True.
20:10 <@sasquatc4> that and in general most are usually introverted and of course feel much more comfortable letting go around their peers
20:11 <@Mirage> anyone else watching Eureka?
20:11 <@Mirage> "There's plenty of backdoor access for everyone.."  I love it..
20:12 <@sasquatc4> im waitin for the food to arrive before i start it
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20:18 < eryc> "a few boring speeches followed by an alcohol binge"
20:26 -!- duu is now known as buu
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21:08 <@dc0de> evenin all
21:09 <@dasunt> G'evening.
21:09 <@dasunt> dc0de: Advice needed:  What should I set on fire?
21:09 <+coil> hi my best friend
21:09  * dc0de wants sound on his ubuntu t61
21:10 <@dc0de> dasunt: what are your choices?
21:11 <@dasunt> Dunno.
21:12 <@dasunt> Basically anything.  Myself.  Other people.  Inanimate objects.
21:12 <@dc0de> well, that's easy... go get some thermite, and light it on a thick slab of concrete...
21:12 <@dc0de> that you don't like
21:12 <+coil> dasunt, set me on fire
21:12 <+coil> that would be uber cool!!!
21:13 <@dc0de> and don't look right at the reaction when it is burning without eye protection, welders goggles or mask... 'cuz it will fuck up your retinas...
21:13  * coil stares at dc0de 
21:14 <+coil> owww my eyes!!!
21:14 <@dc0de> coil: that'll do it.
21:14  * dc0de takes off his shirt.. 
21:14 <@dc0de> Now you're blind coil
21:14  * dasunt sets coil on fire.
21:15 <@dasunt> dc0de: I want to make some thermite.
21:15 <@dc0de> dasunt: easy...
21:15 <@dasunt> I know how.
21:15 <+coil> sweet
21:15 <+coil> im burning
21:15 <+coil> at least i dont have the image of dc0de anymore
21:16  * dc0de takes his shirt off again... and does a little spin and jiggle for coil
21:16 <@dc0de> LOOK AT THIS PASTY BELLY!
21:16 <+coil> your milk shake brings all the boys to the yard?
21:16 <@dc0de> sdodson: ping
21:23 <@wizardPC> hey dc0de do you know a guy named Randy Townsend who used to work at ISS?
21:27 <@dasunt> I might have gotten a bad new disk.
21:27 <@sdodson> dc0de: pong
21:29 <@dasunt> A bad new music CD.
21:29 <@dasunt> Or my CD player is dying.
21:30 <@sdodson> bad to the bone!
21:30 <@wizardPC> you bought music?
21:30 <@dasunt> I've liked dropped the CD player on concrete 3x now.
21:30 <@dasunt> wizardPC: I always buy music.
21:30 <@dasunt> Usually used.
21:30 <@dasunt> But I bought this new.
21:30 <@wizardPC> people with a computer still do that?
21:31 <@dasunt> wizardPC: Yes.
21:31 <@wizardPC> wow...learned something new
21:32 <@dasunt> Anyways, there is a lesson here.
21:33 <@dasunt> That lesson is that obscure bands make CDs of worse quality than Chinese pirated CDs.
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21:35 <@wizardPC> oh, i thought the lesson was not to buy CD's
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21:35 <@wizardPC> i was being an ass
21:36 <@wizardPC> mxzbot?
21:36 <+MxZBot> mxzbot is your bitch
21:36 <@wizardPC> mxzbot: What should I be when I grow up?
21:36 <+MxZBot> SCO makes more sense than you, wizardPC
21:36 <@wizardPC> sadly, yes.
21:39 <@wizardPC> i been listening to a lot of audio books on business and finance, and there is this recurring theme:
21:39 <@wizardPC> if you arent passionate about what you do, you'll never get anywhere.
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21:42 <@wizardPC> my problem is that while I like these computer thingies, I'm not *passionate* about it. In fact, SQL scripts make me suicidal
21:43 <@dasunt> SQL scripts make most people suicidal.
21:44 < eryc> lolz
21:44 <@dasunt> Really.
21:44 <@dasunt> Especially SQL scripts as a programming language.
21:44 < eryc> if you were me you'd be dead by now
21:45 <@dasunt> If you were me, you'd probably be ...
21:45 <@dasunt> Oh wait, ne'ermind.
21:45 <@dasunt> Actually, that's kinda funny.
21:45 <@dasunt> Now that I think about it.  What people would have done in the past year if they were me.
21:52 <@wizardPC> oh, and the FBI thing didnt work out, so the door's closed on that
21:55 <@wizardPC> the interview I had yesterday with that company in ATL didnt go so well because apparently they have cut the salary by about 25%
21:55 <@wizardPC> I sent my resume into "the Fred" but never heard back...
21:57 <@sasquatc4> i have a feeling in about 6 months were gonna have a push for more developers, but thats not for 6 months or so
22:00 <@dasunt> 'the Fred'?
22:01 <@wizardPC> you know, the fred
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22:32 <@ShadowHntr> *yawn*
22:33 <@ladymerlin> ready for your interview ShadowHntr?
22:33 <@ShadowHntr> yeap
22:34 <@ShadowHntr> got the email with the time and his extension
22:34 <@ShadowHntr> gonna wash all my clothes tonight lol
22:34 <@ShadowHntr> maybe i'll be able to tour the facility
22:35 <@ladymerlin> you will at least get to see part of the IT department
22:35 <@ShadowHntr> let's see
22:35 <@ShadowHntr> black slacks - check
22:35 <@ShadowHntr> button-up shirt - check
22:35 <@ShadowHntr> tie - check
22:35 <@ladymerlin> shoes?
22:35 <@dc0de> doh!
22:35 <@dc0de> you need shoes for an interview/
22:35 <@dc0de> ?
22:36 <@ShadowHntr> lol
22:36 <@ShadowHntr> got dress shoes too
22:36 <@ShadowHntr> guess sneakers wouldn't be appropriate
22:36 <@ShadowHntr> maybe after i get the job lol
22:36 <@ShadowHntr> :)
22:36  * ShadowHntr thinks positive thoughts
22:36 <@ladymerlin> yeah after you get it you can dress like me....jeans and tshirts lol
22:36 <@ShadowHntr> awesome
22:36 <@ShadowHntr> :)
22:36 <@dc0de> ShadowHntr: Good luck... seriously.
22:36 <@ShadowHntr> many thanks
22:36  * dc0de will cross his fingers.
22:36 <@ShadowHntr> i need all the help i can get
22:37 <@ShadowHntr> dc0de, i owe you a beer after all this is finished if i get the job lol
22:37 <@dc0de> what did I do?
22:37 <@ShadowHntr> lol
22:37 <@dc0de> :s?
22:37 <@ShadowHntr> wishing me luck
22:37 <@ShadowHntr> :]
22:37 <@dc0de> ahh, you'll be fine...
22:37 <@dc0de> just be yourself...
22:37 <@SkyDog_> Whatever you do, don't pull your penis out at this interview.
22:37 < freakn> I need a real job
22:37 <@SkyDog_> I can't stress that enough...
22:37  * dc0de agree's with SkyDog_
22:38 < freakn> Skydog: what if it is a male strip club?
22:38 <@dc0de> keep the trouser snake in his cage
22:38 <@SkyDog_> It may have worked before, but not now.
22:38 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_, i'm smart, don't have sex on the brain 100% of the time like Corydon
22:38 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
22:38 <@SkyDog_> freakn: Then I would imagine he would not need to pull it out to work as the janitor...
22:38 < freakn> depends on what he's hoping up with
22:38 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: Actually, I have it on the brain about 80% of the time.
22:38 < freakn> *moping
22:39  * dc0de can't think of a job interview where his penis was involved.
22:39  * dc0de has a pornographic memory.... ask SkyDog_
22:39 <@ShadowHntr> lol
22:39 <@dc0de> or anyone else who knows me.
22:39 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_, do you have room in your bittorrent queue for a torrent for me?
22:39 <@sdodson> dc0de: what's up?
22:40 <@ShadowHntr> i'm having trouble getting any client compiled on this box :P
22:40 <@dc0de> sdodson: can you look to see if the latest fedora core supports the Lenovo T61 and all it's hardware?
22:40  * ShadowHntr will have Fedora in a VM on his laptop in time for PN
22:40 <@ShadowHntr> :)
22:40 <@ShadowHntr> plus vpn credentials for my home network
22:40 <@wizardPC> hey dc0de did you remember Randy Townsend at ISS?
22:41 <@dc0de> wizardPC: not sure...
22:41 <@dc0de> why?
22:41 <@wizardPC> you came up in my interview yesterday
22:41 <@dc0de> oh?
22:41 <@dc0de> how so?
22:41 <@dc0de> what did I do now?
22:42 <@wizardPC> i have nashville2600 on my resume, and he was puzzled how I was working in the financial arena
22:42 <@sdodson> dc0de: not enough information.  video and wifi chipsets vary by model
22:42 <@dc0de> wizardPC: you mean Randall?
22:42 <@wizardPC> well he goes by randy now
22:42 <@sdodson> (like even within the T61 line)
22:42 <@dc0de> sdodson: Type 7664-16U
22:42 <@ShadowHntr> i think i have NLUG on my resume for phreaknic
22:42 <@ShadowHntr> volunteer experience :)
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22:43 <@wizardPC> the guy said "I knew some people at ISS in 2600"
22:43 <@dc0de> sdodson: it's the Nvidia video...
22:44 <@wizardPC> "do you know Noble?"
22:44 <@wizardPC> then it all went downhill from there
22:44 <@dc0de> heh...
22:44 <@dc0de> dumbass...
22:45 <@dc0de> ahh... finally installing crossover office pro
22:45 <@sdodson> dc0de: shrug, probably, not sure
22:45 <@sdodson> If everything doesn't work out of the box you can surely download binary drivers to get things working.
22:45 <@ShadowHntr> w00t
22:45 <@dc0de> ok... if I knew the Fedora site better, I'd go hunting, I just don't have the time...
22:45 <@dc0de> not this week anyway.
22:45 <@ShadowHntr> wxWidgets compiling so far so good
22:46 <@sdodson> I know the new laptops we're getting are T61 but I imagine they're strictly Intel laptops.
22:46 <@dc0de> this one is intel
22:46 <@sdodson> video chipset and everything
22:49 <@sdodson> dc0de: are you buying at a retail shop? you could always take a live cd and see how things work
22:49 <@dc0de> sdodson: I already have the hardware....
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22:49 <@dc0de> looking for a stable distro for the lappy.
22:50 <@sdodson> What's stable mean to you?
22:50 <@dc0de> currently running ubuntu gutsy gibbon pre-release.... it's ok, but no sound.
22:50 <@sdodson> Does having to upgrade the OS once a year mean stable?
22:50 <@dc0de> sdodson: that's not a problem
22:50 <@sdodson> that's odd that sound doesn't work
22:50 <@dc0de> I'm currently upgrading the os every 3 days.
22:50 <@sdodson> try http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents//rawhide-i386-Live-20070925.torrent
22:51 <@dc0de> will do... thnx
22:51 <@sdodson> Not suggesting you rely on that as it's rawhide, but that'll give you an idea of what to expect with the release coming November 14th
22:51 <@dc0de> cool... I really do appreciate it...
22:51 <@sdodson> November 8th rather
22:52 <@dc0de> oh, and sdodson, I've stabilized my blood glucose...
22:52 <@sdodson> ya, what's it running?
22:52 <@sdodson> I'm back to working out 5 days a week now, yay.
22:52 <@dc0de> 108
22:52 <@dc0de> from 91 to 119 was today...
22:52 <@sdodson> That's good.
22:53 <@dc0de> yeah, and I forgot my metformin this morning...
22:53 <@dc0de> I was shocked!
22:53 <@dc0de> sdodson: the link above isn't working for me...
22:53 <@sdodson> It's working for me
22:53 <@sdodson> It's a bit torrent
22:53 <@dc0de> I know...
22:54 <@dc0de> I cant get to torrent.fedoraproject.com
22:54 <@ShadowHntr> try .org
22:54 <@dc0de> err, I mean't .org...
22:54 <@sdodson> btw, how much ram are you running? don't bother with 64bit unless you're throwing around more than 3GB of RAM
22:54 <@dc0de> typed .com
22:54 <@dc0de> I have 4gb of ram
22:54 <@sdodson> ~minilink
22:54 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/fedoraproject.org/d7Oel.torrent
22:54  * ShadowHntr has 4gb ram set aside for the workstation
22:55 <@ShadowHntr> i'
22:55 < freakn> not very minilinkedized
22:55 <@sdodson> ehhhh, that's right on the border of where things are better on 64bit platform but you should be ok
22:55 <@ShadowHntr> i'll probably have dualboot windows 32-bit and linux 64
22:55 < freakn> vmware does magical things
22:56 <@sdodson> like delay security patches?
22:56 <@SkyDog_> I will bring a laptop, but only as a token. I will not turn it on, but will spend my time talking to people and having fun.
22:56 <@dc0de> vmware is good, but running linux native is better.
22:56 <@sdodson> 7 CVE's fixed with today's update?
22:56 <@SkyDog_> :)
22:56 < freakn> freebsd pulled down all the patches last time I left that vm running
22:56 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_, wish me luck with my interview tomorrow at davita. :]
22:56 < freakn> ports_upgrade script I have run
22:56 <@sasquatc4> bah, colinux ftw, native^-1
22:57 <@ShadowHntr> pray for me if you got 'em
22:57 <@sdodson> http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/lonesysadmin/mkpe/~3/160085594/
22:58 < freakn> i'll be sure not to tell anyone it is a vm
22:58 <@sdodson> freakn: you know there's a portupgrade tool built into FreeBSD, right?
22:59 < freakn> ya, but gotta update the lists too, and fix dependencies
22:59 < freakn> you'll be upgrading the same thing over and over again if you don't
22:59 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: Good luck with your interview. Break a law. I mean arm. I mean leg. whatever.
22:59 <@ShadowHntr> lol
22:59 <@ShadowHntr> :D
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23:02 <@sdodson> freakn: you know the portupgrade tool does that too, right?
23:02 < freakn> not the last times I ran it, which was sunday
23:03 < freakn> manually run it at least
23:03 <@SkyDog_> portsnap fetch && portsnap extract
23:03 < freakn> still got some annoying thing that wants mod_perl_13 though there is only mod_perl_22 on there
23:03 <@sdodson> It did the first time I did it.  Like 4 years ago.
23:05 < freakn> "portsdb -Uu" then "pkgdb -F" then "portupgrade -ra" put into a screen session
23:05 < freakn> i think those are the commands
23:05 < freakn> it's been about 4 years too since this one got rebuilt
23:05 <@SkyDog_> The faster way is with portsnap.
23:06 <@SkyDog_> I do it all the time with freebsd.
23:06 < freakn> are they eliminating portupgrade anytime soon?  it works, is stable, and gets everything installed
23:07 < freakn> other than a few minutes to an hour saved on a server no one uses, any benefit?
23:08 < freakn> ironic, I will need to get portupgrade to install portsnap
23:08 <@sdodson> So portsnap is actually faster for frequent updates.  csup is still faster for infrequent updates.
23:11 <@SkyDog_> Ah.
23:12 < freakn> DAnce Dance revolution for the wii, hmm
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23:18 <@sasquatc4> im still waitin for wii drums
23:18 <@ShadowHntr> try out taiko drum master for ps2
23:18 <@sasquatc4> apparently they even had an e3 demo of it showin it was possible
23:18 < freakn> can you hook up the donkey kong drums up to the wii and be satisfied?
23:18 <@sdodson> so portsnap and portupgrade serve different purposes.  portsnap updates the ports tree, portupgrade updates the actual ports
23:19 <@sasquatc4> naw, why do that when you can get 2 wiimotes and use them as sticks for a full set
23:22 < freakn> because the donkey kong drum is cool and a sign of status
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23:46 <@dasunt> I need a CD hopper.
23:46 <@dasunt> I wonder how much one goes for.
23:53 <@dasunt> ShadowHntr: Around?
23:54 <@ShadowHntr> yeah what's up
23:55 <@dasunt> Quick question, you own any legit Corvus Corax CDs?
23:55 <@dasunt> Picked up a 'Best of' album by them, and the CD looks rather cheap.
23:55 <@dasunt> I dunno if it is pirated, or just a really low-end CD copier.
23:55 <@ShadowHntr> no
23:55 <@dasunt> I'm kind of leaning towards low-end, since I expect better quality from the pirates.  ;)
23:56 <@ShadowHntr> i would like to purchase
23:56 <@dasunt> Hmmmm.
23:56 <@dasunt> I don't mind purchasing CDs either used (legit) or new (from minor labels).
23:56 <@dasunt> But I really dislike the idea of my money going towards the illegal pirates.
23:56 <@ShadowHntr> amazon.com is a good place
23:57 <@dasunt> Yep, that's where I got it from, but from a non-amazon seller.
23:57 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh
23:57 <@dasunt> I've probably purchased about 30 CDs from amazon, almost all used, or new from a non-amazon seller.
23:57 <@dasunt> This is the only one I have any doubts of.
23:58 <@dasunt> Heh, TBH, I've had worse luck buying CDs from Amazon directly.  Last CD I picked up played fine, the artwork survived intact, but the jewel case did not survive shipping.  :(
23:58 <@ShadowHntr> another place is thegreatescapeonline.com
23:59 <@ShadowHntr> local merchant in nashville
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