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00:10 < iceknife> hello all
00:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Hey, iceknife.  LTNS
00:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Coming to PhreakNIC?
00:16 -!- Corydon76-dig changed the topic of #se2600 to: ware, ShadowHntr and remoford need IT jobs in/around Nashville.  Anybody? | If you have not already hit the PhreakNIC preregistration, you have 11 days left before the price goes up: http://www.phreaknic.info/pn0x0b/registration.html
00:17 < iceknife> No work has taken over the last few years.
00:17 < iceknife> we have been getting a bunch of data centers started up and its been a lot of long hours.
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00:25 <@Corydon76-dig> iceknife: I note that neither you nor juice have preregistered yet...
00:26 < iceknife> nope, I won't be there this year, I don't know if you can read these.
00:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Aww, too bad.  We'll miss you
00:30 < iceknife> Been a crazy last few years, really been taking the time to improve my career so I can hopefully enjoy the cons better.
00:30 < iceknife> been trying to talk Juice into coming to work for us.
00:33 <@wontonjoe> afternoon
00:33 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: you're coming to PN, aren't you?
00:33 < iceknife> morning.
00:33 <@wontonjoe> you know it
00:34 <@wontonjoe> i may have to sleep on a floor but im there
00:34 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: save yourself some cash and preregister
00:34 <@wontonjoe> no credit cards to work with right now, im getting ready to move apts and ebaying junk to do it
00:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
00:34 <@wontonjoe> im moving, paying off a car and coming to pn in the same month
00:34 <@wontonjoe> ill be lucky if i eat while im there
00:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
00:35 <@wontonjoe> im at work now, third shift noc support
00:35 <@Corydon76-dig> My big motivation is, the more people who preregister, the less cash we have to deal with at the con
00:35 <@wontonjoe> hopefully i can get on somewhere that pays better doing the same thing since im currently doing this here
00:36 <@wontonjoe> ya, i dont blame ya, I however would be leary if i was an outsider giving cc info to a con
00:36 <@Corydon76-dig> That's why it's done via a 3rd party site
00:36 <@wontonjoe> I can safely say however I trust you guys with my info
00:36 <@wontonjoe> oh ok thats cool
00:36 <@Corydon76-dig> We still get name and address, but not CC number
00:36 <@wontonjoe> im ebaying my powerbook g4 and my dell 420
00:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Ouch
00:37 <@Corydon76-dig> You still have access to that old original iMac motherboard?
00:38 <@wontonjoe> shit, im suprised you still talk to me its been so long on that deal, hell, tell ya what, would you like an imac?
00:38 <@wontonjoe> of the g3 sort
00:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Sure
00:38 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm down in HSV almost every Monday, at Digigraph
00:39 <@wontonjoe> my girlfriend will love you if you take one off my hands ive got a red one and a strawberry red one, i think the red one is due to be decomissioned as i also have a apt full of white imac g4's
00:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Sweet
00:39 <@wontonjoe> cool im off on mondays, but im usually up from the night before
00:40 <@wontonjoe> did you guys ever fill that perl position, the train someone on perl position?>
00:40 <@juice> hi
00:40 < iceknife> wonton where do you live? we are hiring about 80 employees around the us.
00:40 <@juice> I i just got money to do so
00:40 <@juice> hey iceknife
00:40 < iceknife> Hey mister juice long time no see.
00:40 <@juice> yeah
00:40 < iceknife> The ville' treating you okay?
00:40 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: yes, Howard found a woman out of WKU, who commutes almost every day
00:41 <@wontonjoe> wow cool
00:41 <@juice> umm I guess
00:41 <@wontonjoe> iceknife im in huntsville al
00:41 <@wontonjoe> but beleive me im not set on staying
00:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Math major, knew nothing of programming at all, and she's in charge of one of our projects now
00:42 < iceknife> We have a data center opening in Kentucky and 2 in indiana.
00:42 <@juice> hmm it says 20 in advance yet checkout shows 21
00:42 <@wontonjoe> i gotta get outta this place, they banned thumbdrives yesterday because our workforce is so immature they use portable gaim instead of answering phones during the day
00:42 <@juice> so its 21 bucks online
00:42 <@juice> ?
00:42 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: correct
00:42 <@juice> k
00:42 <@juice> the make it say 21
00:42 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: basically the CC charge is $1 to charge $20
00:42 <@juice> k
00:43 < iceknife> Well we have a bunch of positions open at Rock Port, MO
00:43 <@wontonjoe> nice
00:43 <@juice> iceknife, I talked to a guy you work with
00:43 <@wontonjoe> dunno how realistic moving is just yet though, im a broke bastard
00:43 <@juice> said you might open a place in indy?
00:44 < iceknife> yeah that is going to be our headquarters.
00:44 <@wontonjoe> time to get the newsgroup dl's started
00:44 <@wontonjoe> no thats not part of my job :)
00:45 <@juice> I was like I wouldn't be opposed to going there or mind working there
00:47 <@juice> Corydon76-dig, just need badge name right
00:47 <@juice> nothing on the other lines
00:50 < iceknife> juice we started doing hosted exchanges.
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00:50 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: correct
00:51 <@juice> and I make up a number
00:51 <@juice> for the identifying number
00:51 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: they're working on improving the interface so that it's more integrated, but that's what we have for this year
00:51 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: driver's license number OR last year's PN badge
00:51 <@Corydon76-dig> I intentionally put a number on last year's bade for that very reason
00:52 <@Corydon76-dig> s/bade/badge/
00:52 <@juice> i didn't preregister last year
00:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Still, all badges last year had a unique number printed on them
00:53 <@Corydon76-dig> 1 through 400
00:53 <@juice> ok let me find it I just had it at defcon
00:53 <@Corydon76-dig> I think defcon does badge numbers, too
00:54 <@juice> hmm 0131
00:54 <@juice> or 0137
00:54 <@juice> kinda hard to tell
00:54 <@Corydon76-dig> There were two benefits... one, it provides a number for the following year's prereg ID, and two, it allows us to look at the next badge at the con and know how many attendees we're up to
00:54 <@juice> yeah
00:54 <@someninjamaster> would it look bad on the 2600 if i murdered the head maint guy at the days inn
00:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, do both 1's look the same, or is the second different?
00:55 <@juice> okay its a 1
00:55 <@juice> okay done
00:55 <@Corydon76-dig> So just remember to bring last year's badge, and that's your ID
00:55 <@juice> yeah
00:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Cool
00:56 <@juice> hopefully I make it
00:56 <@juice> I am 90% sure I will
00:56 <@Corydon76-dig> It'll be good to see you again
00:56 <@juice> but there is still a chance I might not
00:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, I hope you can make it
00:56 <@juice> if not consider it a donation
00:56 <@Corydon76-dig> We've got some good talks this year
00:56 <@someninjamaster> skydog
00:57 <@someninjamaster> skydog_: ping
00:57 <@juice> I have 3 others that will car pool down
00:57 <@juice> so it should make it affordable
00:57 <@juice> iceknife, I am on my last 3 classes
00:57 <@wontonjoe> its actually nice to look forward to pn, you get used to seeing the same folks
00:57 <@juice> but still not keen on staying around the area
00:58 <@wontonjoe> hopefully, family deaths and car trouble wont happen for me this time
00:58 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: there's a good crowd from HSV, you could always see about carpooling
00:59 <@juice> I have a 12pg paper to write tomorrow
01:02 <@wontonjoe> well corydon its only an hour away, i generally make the drive up and home alone, this way i can wonder in and out when i want
01:02 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: you drive like a maniac if it only takes you an hour
01:02 <@wontonjoe> :)
01:02 <@Corydon76-dig> It takes me an hour forty five
01:03 <@Corydon76-dig> and I live on the southern border of Nashville
01:03 <@juice> btw wontonjoe backtrack2 doesn't work for crap for me using wicrawl
01:03 <@juice> it won't work with my aironet card
01:03 <@wontonjoe> that sucks its worked fine for me
01:03 <@juice> I just get errors no matter what I did
01:03 <@Corydon76-dig> and that's going 5 mph over the speed limit
01:03 <@wontonjoe> and my dell has an intel pro card
01:03 <@juice> changed the mode atc
01:03 <@wontonjoe> do you go through ardmore corydon?
01:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes
01:03 <@wontonjoe> odd
01:04 <@Corydon76-dig> down 53
01:04 <@wontonjoe> never takes me more than about an hour
01:04 <@Corydon76-dig> to 255 to 565
01:04 <@wontonjoe> i do 75 80 though
01:05 <@Corydon76-dig> 77 is usually where I park it on cruise control
01:05 <@Corydon76-dig> It's actually 75, my speedometer shows a consistent 2.5 above the actual speed
01:06 <@wontonjoe> now it may be how i consider it too, i stop the count when i hit the outskirts of nashville
01:06 <@Corydon76-dig> I have a device to read the speed out of the car computer
01:06 <@Corydon76-dig> outskirts, like southern Franklin?
01:06 <@Evilpig> haha.  the bot talked in here yesterday more than the women.  lol
01:06 <@wontonjoe> nah about where the horse and flags are
01:07 <@wontonjoe> the statue that is
01:07 <@Corydon76-dig> the statue of Forrest, the KKK leader
01:07 <@wontonjoe> ya thats the one lol
01:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Bedford Forrest
01:07 <@Evilpig> Nathan Bedford Forrest
01:08 <@wontonjoe> lol, i didnt know that
01:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: that's it
01:08 <@wontonjoe> shows how much tn history i keep up with
01:08 <@Evilpig> he's my personal hero
01:08 <@Evilpig> has a national forrest or something named after him down there around decatur, tn
01:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: state park
01:08 <@wontonjoe> now the trick for this pn will be to see if i can get my gf to go, i imagine ill get the im not into that stuff you go have fun usual response
01:09 <@Corydon76-dig> I passed it on my way to Memphis
01:09 <@Evilpig> I know where it is cause I do work for that school district
01:09 <@Corydon76-dig> I wonder if I could convince my state legislator that we really need to change the name of that state park
01:09 <@Evilpig> why would you do that?
01:10 <@Evilpig> it amuses me so to see it there
01:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Because it's history I'm not especially proud of
01:10 <@Evilpig> but it's history all the same.
01:11 <@Corydon76-dig> It's like the state is honoring him for being a huge racist
01:11 <@someninjamaster> we was an excellent general
01:11 <@Corydon76-dig> We can accept history without honoring the worst participants
01:11 <@someninjamaster> but his racial views were way outta wack
01:12 <@someninjamaster> but what most people dont know is that he disbanded the kkk when things started getting out of control
01:12 <@someninjamaster> the kkk as we think of it didnt come around until the early 20th century
01:12 <@someninjamaster> after the movie birth of a nation was released
01:13 <@Corydon76-dig> and they didn't really end until they got sued in federal court
01:13 <@Evilpig> they aren't over
01:13 <@wontonjoe> the way i understand it wasnt the modern day kkk a really bad reiteration of the original kkk who were not racially driven as a whole?
01:13 <@Corydon76-dig> and their national headquarters was turned over to the black family which lost a member to the KKK
01:14 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: I suspect the main difference was they did not feel as threatened by black people right after the slaves were freed
01:15 <@wontonjoe> probably, whatever the case, they are now a sorry bunch of people
01:15 <@someninjamaster> indeed
01:15 <@Corydon76-dig> When Mr. Middle Class Racist has a black family move in next door, he's threatened with someone equal (or better) in financial status
01:15 <@Dagmar> Yeah, originally the KKK were not so racially oriented
01:16 <@wontonjoe> apparently they recently rallied against illegal immigrants, its sad to say but i agree with that, well as long as were not gonna burn a cross in jose yard
01:16 <@Dagmar> If you drank and beat your kids, they'd come over in the middle of the night and smash your still and maybe smack you around some too
01:16 <@someninjamaster> my understanding was they were pretty much a milita formed by the survivers of the wat
01:16 <@someninjamaster> war
01:16 <@Dagmar> Think of it like a good ol' boy militia
01:16 <@Corydon76-dig> An organized mob
01:16 <@wontonjoe> Dagmar you still doing the third shift work type deal?
01:16 <@Corydon76-dig> enforcing mob justice
01:17 <@someninjamaster> i wouldnt consider it mob justice more like justice based on honer
01:17 <@wontonjoe> I offered my honor, she honored my offer, and all night long i was....
01:18 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: unless they permit people to defend themselves in a fair hearing, it's mob justice
01:18 <@someninjamaster> there are times when the justice system fails the people
01:18 <@someninjamaster> at which point you sometimes have to get your hands durty
01:19 <@wontonjoe> in the durty south?
01:19 <@wontonjoe> good god im just in an odd mood, never mind my shrill comments
01:19 <@someninjamaster> im in one of those funny moods myself
01:19 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: the only place that deserves a place in modern society is jury nullification
01:20 <@Corydon76-dig> the jurfy that refuses to convict the abused kid who finally shoots and kills his abuser
01:21 <@Corydon76-dig> but in that case it's one of personal wrongs, not honor
01:22 <@Corydon76-dig> I'll support women who shoot their rapists, but if her brother is the one who shoots the guy he thinks is the rapist, no such luck
01:23 <@someninjamaster> so in that case if i see someone rapeing a woman can i shoot them
01:23 <@Corydon76-dig> If you catch them in the act, I say yes
01:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Story of Romeo & Juliet is all about honor killings... and see where it got them...
01:27 <@Corydon76-dig> or the scene from Godfather II... "Where are all the men?"  "Dead.  From vendettas."
01:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Think I'll head to bed
01:28 <@someninjamaster> im not saying that it has to be killings
01:28 <@someninjamaster> some people need to have their asses beat for being idiots
01:28 <@Corydon76-dig> "An eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth leaves everybody blind and toothless."
01:29 <@wontonjoe> indeed
01:29 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: what happens when somebody believes that of you, even without good cause?
01:30 <@Corydon76-dig> You get your ass beaten for no good reason?
01:30 <@someninjamaster> more than likely if they believe it they are proably right
01:30 <@someninjamaster> ill be the first to admit that i need to get punched in the face for some of the stuff i do
01:30 <@Corydon76-dig> You're ignoring people who find it amusing to manipulate others, by planting thoughts
01:31 <@Corydon76-dig> "Did you hear what X said about Y?  Well, I heard that..."
01:32 <@someninjamaster> at which point you ask x what the deal was
01:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Gossip gets people hurt, even without good cause
01:32 <@someninjamaster> which is why i dont gossip
01:32 <@someninjamaster> if i dont like you ill tell you to your face i dont like yo
01:32 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't believe in mob justice, either
01:33 <@someninjamaster> im not sure i trust the jury system or the mob justice
01:33 <@Corydon76-dig> If someone wrongs you, it is up to you and you alone to make things right in that way.  For all other cases, you pursue it through the justice system.
01:34 <@Corydon76-dig> It's not perfect, but it's the best system we have... it ensures fair treatment, even when you're unjustly accused
01:34 <@someninjamaster> my company is involved in a law suit right now that is outright stupid
01:34 <@someninjamaster> this is why im pretty bitter at the legal system
01:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Anyway, I really need to get to bed
01:36 <@sasquatc4> heh, sounds like mine, i think we get into a new lawsuit once a month
01:36 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm about to fall off my chair
01:43 <@wontonjoe> uh oh, dont get hurt
01:43 <@NotLarry> ok, who has or know someone who is selling a bike that runs dependably?
01:43 <@wontonjoe> i wish i knew someone id try to buy it
01:43 <@sdodson> Your legs don't work dependably?
01:43 <@sdodson> zomg it's wontonjoe!
01:43 <@NotLarry> my cock does
01:43 <@wontonjoe> NotLarry i saw a few reasonably priced ebay bikes
01:44 <@wontonjoe> sdodson, weve been watching you mr dodson!
01:44 <@wontonjoe> its the smell of irc lurkers I cant stand
01:44 <@NotLarry> yeah, but I would prefer to get one from someone we knew:)
01:44 <@sdodson> wontonjoe: dont hate
01:44 <@wontonjoe> the foul stench permeates my very being
01:45 <@wontonjoe> NotLarry, I think with gas prices those who have them are holding them
01:45 <@wontonjoe> my scooters turned out to be shitbuckets, im just waiting on the repo man to get them and to have them striked out on my credit
01:45 <@Dagmar> ROFL http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=2F00EEB2AA91ABE0B2C7773B360CE777?topicId=2040216793&sid=1
01:46 <@Dagmar> Um, if they're repo'd you will not be happy with the credit ding
01:46 <@Dagmar> ~minilink
01:46 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/worldofwarcraft.com/9ZPMW.html
01:47 <@wontonjoe> Dagmar lol thats funny as hell, and on the repo thing i can pay 3k or let them repo, and my gf has a way to work with a 900 dollar car
01:48 <@wontonjoe> i know the credit ding will suck but i was told either pay in full or we will repo
01:48 <@wontonjoe> i told them i can arrange some payment with you, but not today and not in full they said no so i said you know where to get em
01:48 <@wontonjoe> they still have not
01:51 <@wontonjoe> i think having a laptop wiht an hdtv usb card is cheating at work :), im watching tv lol
01:51 <@Dagmar> lol
01:51 <@Dagmar> 50" widescreen for the win here
01:51 <@wontonjoe> if we only had cable here
01:51 <@wontonjoe> you gotta be shittin me dagmar!
01:51 <@wontonjoe> im on my 15" powerbook
01:51 <@wontonjoe> you got a 50" at work?
01:52 <@sasquatc4> that is nice about work, can get away with watchin tv and play it off like im workin
01:52 <@wontonjoe> well im here by myself, so as long as i keep on top of nagios, i can do whatever
01:52 <@sasquatc4> as long as i stare intently like im deep in thought about it
01:53 <@wontonjoe> i often complain about getting ten bucks an hour for this job, then i realize i watch tv at work, and im off m-thursday
01:53 <@wontonjoe> and i get 40 hours
01:53 <@wontonjoe> a week
01:56 <@wontonjoe> so maybe im not doing too bad
01:56 <@wontonjoe> dunno whats noc support worth these days?
01:58 <@sasquatc4> not a clue
01:58 <@sdodson> looks like nagios has come a long way in the past few years
01:59 <@wontonjoe> it works for us
01:59 <@wontonjoe> sometimes its a little over zealous, but i think our it just needs to fine tune it some more, weve used it here since it was netsaint
02:05 <@sdodson> is it still annoying to configure?
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02:06 <@wontonjoe> to be quite honest i havent configured it in a long while
02:06 <@wontonjoe> i know it used to be
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02:41 <+coil> hi
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02:45 <@Dagmar> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v715/megamanzero89/1174747430253.jpg
02:46 <+coil> what is that referring to?
03:11 <@wontonjoe>  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v715/megamanzero89/1174747430253.jpg
03:12 <+coil> ...
03:12 <@wontonjoe> oops
03:12 <@wontonjoe> i like the note though
03:14 <@wontonjoe> im bored
03:14 <@wontonjoe> i dont want to do my nightly paperwork till at least 4 am
03:14 <@wontonjoe> im kinda tired too
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08:38 <@SkyDog_> morning all.
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09:01 <@Dagmar> WTF http://youtube.com/watch?v=ovgc50DxsjM
09:11 <@NotLarry> Mirage: Are you there?
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10:09 <@Jagobah> to pre-register for phreaknic or not.... hmm
10:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Jagobah: saves you money
10:09 <@Corydon76-dig> also lets you use a CC instead of cash
10:09 <@Jagobah> True
10:09 <@Jagobah> I haven't decided if I want to go yet
10:10 <@Corydon76-dig> You had fun last year, didn't you?
10:10 <@Corydon76-dig> and the year prior?
10:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Learned a bit
10:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Got drunk with like minded people
10:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Didn't get raped
10:11 <@Jagobah> didn't go to PN10, I did enjoy PN9
10:12 <@brimstone> always factors i consider for events
10:12 <@Jagobah> Although PN7 was still a personal favorite
10:13 <@Jagobah> oooh it's not late october
10:13 <@Corydon76-dig> October 19th
10:14 <@Jagobah> Then I looked across my desk at my PN8 wristband which said October 22-24, 2004 and felt dumb
10:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Yep, we scheduled it so it doesn't conflict with a Titans home game
10:15 <@Corydon76-dig> So you're not competing for rooms with sports fans
10:16 <@Jagobah> I suppose I can schedule my other tasks to do in Nashville around that time period :)
10:20 <@Jagobah> Hmmm I take it this year there won't be a LAN hooked up?
10:20 <@Corydon76-dig> All of the rooms are on the LAN
10:20 <@Corydon76-dig> plus Wifi in other places
10:21 <@Corydon76-dig> So any room you get, there's a 100BT Ethernet plug in the wall
10:21 <@Jagobah> ahh hah!
10:22 <@Jagobah> I thought about bringing my laptop but it's battery is really old
10:22 <@Jagobah> wrong use of it's :(
10:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Should be just enough time between now and then to order a new one...
10:22 <@Jagobah> hahaha
10:22 <@Corydon76-dig> battery, not laptop
10:23 <@Corydon76-dig> although new laptop is good, too.  ;-)
10:24 <@Jagobah> Mine's just passed the 4 year mark =\
10:24 <@Corydon76-dig> One of the things I got this past year was a new Apple laptop
10:24 <@Corydon76-dig> to replace a Sony Vaio
10:25 <@Corydon76-dig> vmware fusion to run alternate OSes
10:25 <@Jagobah> There was a site in this old issue of CPU mag that had recycled laptop batteries, can't seem to find the bookmark for it
10:25 <@Corydon76-dig> I'd just use Froogle with the battery part number
10:26 <@Jagobah> ahh here it is http://www.freshbattery.com/StoreFront.bok
10:27 <@Jagobah> My older bro has an Apple laptop, looked really nice
10:28 <@Corydon76-dig> or Parallels is the other emulation
10:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, main reason I went with Apple is for a) battery life, and b) Wifi memory
10:29 <@brimstone> wifi memory?
10:29 <@ware> also, cocks
10:29 <@Jagobah> I've read about open source virtualization projects like VirtualBox and QEMU
10:29 <@Corydon76-dig> It remembers previous networks it has been on
10:30 <@Corydon76-dig> even networks for which the ESSID is not broadcast.  So it picks up on the network no matter where you are
10:30 <@brimstone> i don't see that as being a huge feature
10:30 <@brimstone> doesn't wpa_supplicant?
10:30 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: I could never get that working
10:30 <@brimstone> ah
10:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Might've just been the driver for my card
10:31 <@Corydon76-dig> In any case, I don't have to think about system administration as much anymore
10:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Yay, 72 preregistrations so far.  We're about double what we had last year, when prereg was by-mail-only
10:33 <@Corydon76-dig> and only 5 people opted for the mail option this year
10:33 <@Jagobah> mail option!
10:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, there's a PDF on the phreaknic.info site
10:33 <@Corydon76-dig> print out, sign, enclose payment
10:34 <@Jagobah> ooo
10:34 <@Corydon76-dig> for people who are even more paranoid than usual
10:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Two years running, we had a guy sign up as "Winston Smith"
10:35 <@brimstone> maybe that's his name?
10:35 <@Corydon76-dig> 1984
10:35 <@brimstone> could still be his name...
10:36 <@Corydon76-dig> I strongly doubt it.  The return address had the address stamped, with the name written-in
10:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Who gets a rubber stamp with their address, without their name?
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10:38 <@Corydon76-dig> or I suppose his family could be exceptionally cheap...
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11:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Neoteric: so did your Cthulhu plushie arrive yet?
11:47 <@NotLarry> Ok, I need two cell phones that will work with cingular sim cards, anyone got anything they want to part with?
11:53 <@Jagobah> :o !
12:23 <@Dagmar> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/09/26/battlesuit-engage/
12:25 <@ware> woot
12:26 <@ware> just wrecked my bike for the first time
12:29 <@Jagobah> :O !
12:29 <@Jagobah> hey ware
12:29 <@Jagobah> sorry to hear that !
12:30 <@ware> it was quite the experience
12:30 <@ware> im scratched up and the bike is too
12:34 <@Jagobah> =(
12:43 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: do you qualify for a Darwin award?
12:45 <@ware> yeah probnably
12:47 <@Corydon76-dig> So your balls were smashed?
12:47 <@ware> just my leg
12:47 <@Corydon76-dig> or otherwise separated from your body?
12:47 <@Corydon76-dig> No Darwin award for you, then
12:47 <@ware> i is still a man
12:47 <@Corydon76-dig> You haven't removed yourself from the gene pool
12:47 <@ware> i slide into some trees
12:47 <@ware> haha
12:48 <@ware> slid*
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13:21 <+coil> howd you do that
13:22 <@Corydon76-dig> A cow distracted him by showing him its nipples
13:22 <+coil> cows are females?
13:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, yes
13:23 <+coil> so not its?
13:23 <+coil> so it would be her
13:24 <@Corydon76-dig> You're putting too much thought into an insult
13:24 <@Corydon76-dig> I was referring to ware's track record of sexual congress with cattle
13:25 <+coil> pics or shens!!!
13:25 <@Corydon76-dig> eh?
13:26 <+coil> i want proof
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14:56  * someninjamaster yawns
15:02 <@sdodson> hai hai
15:02 <@sdodson> time to go through the dance of moving my mythtv machine to a new drive
15:11 <@brimstone> no, i'm using that box!
15:17 <@sdodson> you are?
15:17 <@brimstone> no, i'm just messin with ya :P
15:21 <+coil> hi
15:21  * coil waves at sdodson, my bestest of friends!!!
15:25 <@ware> hush that up
15:26 <+coil> ware go fall off your bike again
15:26 <+coil> do you need training wheels?
15:27 <@ware> lulz
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15:30 <@dc0de> interesting job openings... http://www.blackwaterusa.com/employment/contract_position_it.asp
15:32 <+coil> hi docde
15:32 <@dc0de> sup coil
15:32 <+coil> same shit diff day?
15:32 <@dc0de> nah, watched my kids play baseball all morning... 4 games.
15:33 <@ware> nice
15:33 <@dc0de> it's nap time.
15:33 <@ware> did they win?
15:33 <@dc0de> my youngest plays t-ball, so everyone wins... :)
15:33 <@dc0de> my 9yr old's team won, 7-6
15:34 <@ware> sweet
15:34 <@dc0de> and my daughter had a double-header, won one, lost one... it was a great day
15:35 <@dc0de> and I'm falling asleep...
15:35 <@dc0de> I'm gonna go take a nap.
15:35 <+coil> i thought old people stay awake more
15:35  * dc0de notes to kick coil's ass next con.
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15:36 <+coil> awww
15:36 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home: wtf?  no amex.  jew.
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15:55 <+coil> why not maxe
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15:59 <+coil> wb my best friend
16:01 <@sdodson> coil wtf is up with you?
16:01 <+coil> nothing!
16:01 <@sdodson> what do you want from me?
16:01 <+coil> friendship
16:01 <@sdodson> uh sure
16:01  * sdodson gives coil a gold star
16:01 <+coil> no
16:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Not that kind of friendship.  The other one, where you bend over and brace yourself.
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16:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Afternoon, Stef
16:22 < Stefanie_TN> Hi.
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16:42 <@sdodson> no thanks
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17:14 <@devemo|lappy> Afternoon
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17:49 <@sdodson> I've got a new pet peeve. People refering to anything related to network booting as "pxeboot" even if it's not actually PXE
17:52  * eryc pxeboots on the toilet
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19:06 <@brimstone> sdodson, i need you to pxeboot the new voip internet phones over the current javascript server daemon please
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19:26 <@sdodson> brimstone: die a horrible ajax death
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19:37 <@devemo|lappy> evening timoguin
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19:44 <@devemo|lappy> evening droops
19:45 <@droops> hey devemo|lappy
19:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Heya, droops
19:54 <@droops> hey Corydon76-dig
19:55 <@Corydon76-dig> See my note on binrev?  ;-)
19:56 <@droops> you reminded me to register
19:57 <@droops> im getting a printed name badge this year!
19:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Heheh
19:57 <@droops> i am bringing my daughter, she is like 7 months old, so i didnt register her
19:58 <@droops> are there any rooms in the hotel availible?
19:58 <@droops> i need to do that also
20:00 <@sasquatc4> w00t, suck it catholics, we win again
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20:41 <@Dolemite> Yeah, there are still plenty of rooms left
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20:41 <@Dolemite> because just like every year, this group of slack asses waits until the last day to reserve their room
20:42 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : Mirage and I went by the hotel today and talked to Charles.  He told us about a convention in March that has your name written all over it...  "The Gay Conductors"
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20:54 <@devemo|lappy> bye
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21:15 <@sdodson> Dolemite: Only king room for me :(
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21:42 <@dasunt> Hey, I'm not a slack ass.
21:42 <@dasunt> I'm broke.
21:42 <@dasunt> Amoung other things.
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21:52 <@dasunt> I can't be in a forum with women.
21:52  * dasunt is discovering this.
21:52 <@dasunt> It goes all well and dandy, until the dating conversations come up.
21:54 <@dasunt> At that point, I start to get utterly bitter and think that yes, the average woman is really attracted to assholes.
21:54  * dasunt blames civilization.
21:54 <@dasunt> Seriously.
21:54 <@dasunt> Okay, even 500 years ago, being an asshole probably meant you were an alpha male.
21:54 <@sasquatc4> the average woman is attracted to assholes
21:54 <@dasunt> Now, it means that society frowns on beating the shit out of people like you.
21:54 <@dasunt> sasquatc4: :(
21:56 <@dasunt> sasquatc4: That does not help my growing cynical outlook on life.
21:56 <@sdodson> Does that mean average women are attracted to dasunt?
21:56 <@sasquatc4> hahaa
21:57 <@dasunt> sdodson: I'm not an asshole.
21:57 <@dasunt> I'm like an anti-asshole.
21:57 <@dasunt> Although, I may be gaining a bit of a drinking problem, so there could be hope for me.  ;)
21:57 <@sasquatc4> may be? arent you in here like every night saying how your a drunk and an alchoholic
21:58 <@dasunt> Probably, but I exaggerate.
21:58 <@dasunt> It is more like every other night I'm drunk.  ;)
21:59 <@sasquatc4> ahh well, time to hunt down a dude who owes me 50 for coverin his bar tab
21:59 <@dasunt> sasquatc4: Would you go drinking with me?
22:00 <@dasunt> Heh, seriously though, the drug of choice I'm currently abusing that I'm a tad worried about is the caffiene.
22:00  * dasunt isn't sure it is possible to get tremors from caffiene withdrawal, but that would explain quite a few things.
22:01 <@sasquatc4> yea, i would, as long as you arent a depressing drunk who sits at the bar lamenting about days of yore
22:01 <@dasunt> No, I sit on IRC and lament.
22:01 <@sasquatc4> k
22:01 <@dasunt> IRL, I tend to be a lot less depressing.
22:01 <@dasunt> OMG.
22:01 <@dasunt> Okay, I give up on women.
22:01 <@dasunt> Seriously.
22:02 <@dasunt> Just read this big long post about a woman who gets drunk with someone else, out of the blue he starts snogging her, and then later that evening, he doesn't go further.
22:02 <@dasunt> Ergo, he's a nice guy.
22:02 <@dasunt> WTF?
22:02 <@sasquatc4> snogging?
22:02 <@dasunt> Frenching.
22:02 <@sasquatc4> ahh
22:03 <@sdodson> i got my machine back online after some headache
22:03 <@dasunt> So, I guess the way to get women is to start making out with someone you just met, and then save the sex for after you ask them out.
22:03  * sdodson does not know wtf initrd stores LVM information but oh well
22:03 <@dasunt> sdodson: Isn't LVM stored in the volume itself?
22:03 <@dasunt> Like the first X bytes of the disk?
22:04 <@sdodson> The hottest girl I dated in college said goodbye after a week because I didn't jump in her pants the first time the two of us were alone.
22:04 <@sasquatc4> dasunt: that sounds like a fairly respectable thing ot do
22:04 <@dasunt> sdodson: Remember, women are the more ~romantic~ sex, while guys are just in it for the lust.
22:04 <@sdodson> dasunt: ya, but the information about where to find the root volume is stored in initrd, so i guess it's not really lvm i'm talking about.
22:04 <@sdodson> She said I was like her dad and boring or something
22:05 <@dasunt> sdodson: Hmmm, good question -- that would make grub/lilo know about LVM then, right?
22:05  * dasunt forgets how initrd works.
22:05 <@dasunt> Or....
22:05 <@sdodson> She ended up living with me, every time she'd meet a new guy she'd say she either "met" them or she "MET" (with like more inflection) them.
22:06 <@sdodson> generally she MET them
22:06 <@dasunt> Does grub/lilo just hold a pointer to where initrd is on the disk?
22:06 <@sasquatc4> ~weather 80111
22:06 <+MxZBot> It's Partly Cloudy in Denver Centennial, Colorado. It's 60 F (42 M, 15 C, 288 K).  Wind to the South at 12Mph/18Kph.
22:06 <@sasquatc4> mmm, it be fall out
22:06 <@sdodson> dasunt: so that's the whack thing, the kernel line has root=/dev/mythtv/os which is the logical volume path which should be sufficient, I THOUGHT, but no.
22:07 <@sdodson> dasunt: /boot is a normal ext3 file system and has all the grub, kernel, and initrd bits.
22:07 <@sdodson> I think we're putting too much information in initrd.
22:07 <@dasunt> sdodson: Where are the modules stored?
22:07 <@dasunt> 'Cause if the LVM module is not in /boot, I can see that failing.
22:07 <@sdodson> Any module required to boot should be in the initrd.
22:08 <@sdodson> It was finding LVM, it was still thinking root was on /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
22:08 <@dasunt> Also, IIRC, under leenucks, /etc can't be a seperate partition from the root partition, which vaguely annoys me.  (the kernel needs fstab to mount the filesystems)
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22:09 <@sdodson> dasunt: i'm totally gonna lazyweb/blog this! zomg web 2.0
22:10 <@sdodson> not that anyone reads my fucking blog and would answer it but oh well
22:10 <@sdodson> I added google adsense to track hits
22:10 <@dasunt> Ha ha!
22:10 <@sdodson> but i think everyone has abp installed
22:10 <@dasunt> abp?
22:10 <@dasunt> I don't, I guess.
22:12 <@sdodson> dasunt: make me money! I kid, this is a flagrant violation of adsense don't actually do it!
22:14 <@ladymerlin> whee
22:15  * dasunt gets sdodson involved in federal wire fraud.
22:17 <@dasunt> I WAS JUST FOLLOWING HIS ORDERS, JUDGE!
22:17  * dasunt was an innocent patsy.
22:21 <@sdodson> ladymerlin: what's with the whee?
22:21 <@sdodson> are you playing Wii?
22:21 <@sdodson> I wonder if Wii are easy to find yet.  I think I want one.
22:23 <@sdodson> Today's Earnings: $0.00
22:23 <@sdodson> move'n on up!
22:24 <@ladymerlin> sdodson: i dunno just felt like saying whee
22:24 <@ladymerlin> tho i also want a wii
22:25 <@sdodson> ya, i wish the graphics were better though
22:25 <@SkyDog_> Evening all.
22:25 <@sdodson> I totally dig the appeal of better game play rather than shiny graphics, but they're pretty poor.
22:27 <@sasquatc4> i see deals on dealnews every few days selling either single systems or bundles
22:27 <@sasquatc4> so you can find em
22:45 <@sdodson> so the new drive hasn't lowered my load average but the machine seems more responsive in general
22:46 <@sdodson> I wonder my the load average is still sticking around 2
22:46 <@dasunt> Wow.
22:46 <@dasunt> WTF?
22:46 <@dasunt> This is just wrong, NSFW, abnormal, etc:  http://pochiraccoon.livejournal.com/7987.html
22:47 <@sdodson> wtf, too many words
22:49 <@dc0de> http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2007/09/28/netbank_0929.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab
22:49 <@dc0de> ~minilink
22:49 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/ajc.com/a45Jx.html
22:49 <@dc0de> Netbank goes under
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22:50 <@sdodson> looks like ING is still cool
22:56 <@sdodson> dasunt: so basically furys are yelling at another fury for wearing a diaper filled with piss?
22:57 <@dasunt> Yep.
22:57 <@dasunt> I guess.
22:57 <@dasunt> Damned if I know.
23:00 <@dasunt> I think NYers need to see more trees:  http://weburbanist.com/2007/09/28/urban-camping-subversive-city-living-from-times-square-to-the-car-tent/
23:02 <@sdodson> I need to find a book on like sys admin process/policy/change control or something any suggestions?
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23:03 <@ladymerlin> heya strages
23:04 <@sdodson> dasunt: that car tent is hip
23:05 <@strages> hey ladymerlin
23:07 <@strages> how's everyone doing this evening?
23:08  * dc0de is tired...
23:08 <@SkyDog_> not bad...
23:09 <@Evilpig> i'm watching a movie eating cheese
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23:09  * brimstone snipes strages from across the map
23:09 <@strages> hax
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23:10 <@sdodson> geez, tons of artifacts when watching SNL in standard def over analog cable, lame cable companies
23:10 <@strages> we broke Corydon76-home
23:12 <@sdodson> cool, do we have to pay anyone for that?
23:12 <@strages> probably not
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23:13 <@sasquatc4> yea, i was getting artifacts on the hd feed
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23:50 <@ladymerlin> whee
23:50 <@Evilpig> shush you.  nobody pulled your string
23:50 <@ladymerlin> bite me
23:51 <@Evilpig> do you really want to test your luck on that?
23:51 <@SkyDog_> Hey now. You two be nice.
23:51 <@ladymerlin> :P
23:56 <@dasunt> I R DRUNK!
23:57 <@Dagmar> I r sick
23:58  * brimstone pulls ladymerlin's string
23:58 <@brimstone> wheee!!!
23:58 <@Evilpig> got the shits?  gonna drag your ass across the carpet like a dog?
23:58 <@dasunt> Dagmar: You drank too much.
23:58 <@Dagmar> I wish
23:59 <@Dagmar> I was stupid and went to work last night, before I was over this damn chest cold
23:59 <@ladymerlin> heya brimstone
23:59 <@Dagmar> I foolishly used OTC drugs to stomp out the symptoms
23:59 <@brimstone> hi ladymerlin!
23:59  * brimstone waves
23:59 <@Dagmar> ...so tonight I'm back to body ache, fever, coughing, blocked nose and sinuses all over again
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